Better shot-to-shot time after Cyan update for L1020

[qwertyaa]

As almost everyone who is L1020 owner has the problem of very big shot-to-shot time. I mean the saving time for every photo it's too long and it often to miss the moment. Stop it's there any chance after Cyan update this problem to be resolved? I am asking because my friends with L925 says that their device is responding very fast.

P.S. When I installed Nokia Camera Beta the application is starting faster. For about 3 seconds which is much better than 6.1 seconds with non-beta version.
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[jeetu4444]

U can try using burst mode ....iam on 8.1 dp...official cya is not yet released for 1020....
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[Taigatrommel]

It has been said processing time for pictures of all Pureview devices has been improved with Cyan. However in case of the 1020 a reduction from 4.4 secs to 4.1 secs can also be called a reduction - even if it doesn't really matter in real life.

The 925 should have faster image processing per se due to the fact it only deals with 8mp instead of 41mp.

I don't think the way the 1020 is constructed and Nokia managed to make it work under Windows Phone would allow any further miracles in terms of processing speed.

 

[Wam1q]

Try 'Camera 1020' app from the store to take high-res shots at the same speed as Microsoft Camera.

 

[salmanahmad]

Though Cyan may improve this situation, don't expect any miracles. The Snapdragon S4 processor being used in 1020 can barely manage the 41 Megapixel camera.

The Microsoft camera is faster because it snaps 5 megapixel shots whereas Nokia Camera takes uncompressed 30+ MP shots.

So you have to choose between quality or speed.
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[zxli]

As I said in another thread. After Windows Phone 8.1 for Lumia 1020 is officially released, things might get better (if Microsoft/Nokia implements proper firmware). Windows Phone 8.1 supports asynchronous encoding after taking a shot. Since Lumia 1020 has 2GB memory, in theory it is capable of taking several high (if not full) resolution shots and encode them in the background so you may feel less lagging effect between shots.

 

[qwertyaa]

I don't know but maybe it will be better. I hope that this will be fixed but I am thinking of Lumia 925. I doubt know if it will be good replace for my Lumia 1020. I am not pretending on full 41 MP photos.
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[Darryl Mylrea]

Since Cyan has been released in some countries, maybe those users could chime in about camera performance?

 

[Moiz Mian]

As I said in another thread. After Windows Phone 8.1 for Lumia 1020 is officially released, things might get better (if Microsoft/Nokia implements proper firmware). Windows Phone 8.1 supports asynchronous encoding after taking a shot. Since Lumia 1020 has 2GB memory, in theory it is capable of taking several high (if not full) resolution shots and encode them in the background so you may feel less lagging effect between shots.

Is that a public API? async encoding? I mean, the last few years of iphones and android phones have supported that feature, so I'm happy it's here, but I still haven't seen any apps which support this yet. Do you know of any?

 

[salmanahmad]

Is that a public API? async encoding? I mean, the last few years of iphones and android phones have supported that feature, so I'm happy it's here, but I still haven't seen any apps which support this yet. Do you know of any?

What makes you think Android and iPhone use Async Encoding? Just saying that most Android companies and Apple give the phone a camera that the processor can handle, so Async Encoding isn't needed.

 

[qwertyaa]

Maybe Nokia will not fix this problem cause there will be L1030. L1020's lifecycle will end soon, so it will not be a fix for sure. If it will have it will be a miracle...as I read the processor is not capable of handling such a mosnter like 41 MP sensor...ops...it is 5 MP, but it shoots 6 more images simultaneously to create one mega shot.
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[zxli]

Refer to MediaCapture class in MSDN. It supports capturing picture in RGB format. Right now the API call for RGB data does nothing on Lumia 1020.

Also refer this page. Search for "Applications that delay encoding allow the capture pipeline to run without bottlenecks".
https://dev.windowsphone.com/en-US/.../Camera_pipeline_updates_in_Windows_Phone_8.1

Is that a public API? async encoding? I mean, the last few years of iphones and android phones have supported that feature, so I'm happy it's here, but I still haven't seen any apps which support this yet. Do you know of any?

 

[Taigatrommel]

Since Cyan has been released in some countries, maybe those users could chime in about camera performance?

Cyan has yet to be released for the Lumia 1020. When I played around with the Cyan-preloaded 930 earlier on, the shot time was roughly 1/3 or even 1/4 of what the 1020 does. So quite an improvement. However the device has only half the megapixels to process and of course has a much more modern CPU. Considering all this I still doubt we'll see any kind of serious improvement.

 

[marratj]

ops...it is 5 MP, but it shoots 6 more images simultaneously to create one mega shot.
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It does what?

You, sir, need to read up on the PureView oversampling technology: http://i.nokia.com/blob/view/-/849564/data/2/-/Download1.pdf

 

[BatteryLife]

Maybe Nokia will not fix this problem cause there will be L1030. L1020's lifecycle will end soon, so it will not be a fix for sure. If it will have it will be a miracle...as I read the processor is not capable of handling such a mosnter like 41 MP sensor...ops...it is 5 MP, but it shoots 6 more images simultaneously to create one mega shot.
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat... You serious?

You are confusing this with Oppo Find 7 ==

 

[Wam1q]

ops...it is 5 MP, but it shoots 6 more images simultaneously to create one mega shot.
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What nonsense! It is one massive 41 MP sensor. It doesn't combine 5 MP images to give that 'mega shot'. Please educate yourself.

 

[Wam1q]

Though Cyan may improve this situation, don't expect any miracles. The Snapdragon S4 processor being used in 1020 can barely manage the 41 Megapixel camera.

The Microsoft camera is faster because it snaps 5 megapixel shots whereas Nokia Camera takes uncompressed 30+ MP shots.

So you have to choose between quality or speed.
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The S4 processor didn't support 41 MP cameras at all. Nokia collaborated with Qualcomm, rewriting the chip's imaging part to make everything work. And Microsoft camera is fast because it doesn't save the hi-res shots. It doesn't magically take 5 MP photos. A 41 MP image is always taken. Nokia camera has the dual-shooting feature which makes it slow. And a store app, 'Camera 1020', captures hi-res shots at the same speed as Microsoft Camera because of single-capture.

 

[Moiz Mian]

What makes you think Android and iPhone use Async Encoding? Just saying that most Android companies and Apple give the phone a camera that the processor can handle, so Async Encoding isn't needed.

That's not true. While I agree that the 1020 has an older processor, I've seen how the iphone 4 with an even OLDER (single core) processor takes HDR photos. When you snap the photo, it instantly takes the picture and you're free to use the phone again. But if you go to the camera roll, you'll see a spinning circle around the photo you just took until it's done processing.

 

[chezm]

I really hope its improved, it really is too long...hate being picky but its true.

 

[KerkedAgain]

As I said in another thread. After Windows Phone 8.1 for Lumia 1020 is officially released, things might get better (if Microsoft/Nokia implements proper firmware). Windows Phone 8.1 supports asynchronous encoding after taking a shot. Since Lumia 1020 has 2GB memory, in theory it is capable of taking several high (if not full) resolution shots and encode them in the background so you may feel less lagging effect between shots.

indeed. Both your app (Camera 1020) and OneShot seem to do this quite well. You can take the full-res picture(s) in succession, but it won't show in the photo gallery until it's through rendering. Hopefully Microsoft implements those changes into the ProCam