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  1. Steve Adams's Avatar
    Exactly, the point of the camera on a phone is having it all the time, therefore having the best camera on your phone is awesome. The camera on the 1020 bests a lot of point and shoots. I have 2 awesome cameras, but on vacation just resturanting or shopping it, I just keep my phone. I can pull off DSLR quality photos in a device that fits in my pocket and also do all the Phone'y stuff. The phone is no way crappy. I find it faster than my ativ S, and do not have all the "issues" others seem to have. Nor does my wife. she has a 1020 as well.

    If the 1030 is released, and has a camera that bests the 1020s we will get 2 of those!
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    12-21-2014 05:03 PM
  2. blue1k's Avatar
    I sold my 930 and ended up buying a new in box 1020. The camera may be slow and not have all the features but I am happy. I found the screen of the 930 meh, form factor a bit chunky, and the camera inferior to the 1020. Kind of nice pocketing the difference and buying a NEX mirrorless camera to compliment the 1020.
    12-21-2014 05:18 PM
  3. Blacklac's Avatar
    The Lumia 930 camera is in no way bad. The Lumia 1020 has a great phone camera. Only problem is, when you're taking the important picture, you'll probably miss it due to the lag
    You could miss the all important shot with any camera if you aren't ready. How many people wish to walk around with a visible $500 and up DSLR around there neck? More than likely you'll have it in a back pack or somewhere safe until you think you'll need it.
    12-21-2014 06:54 PM
  4. mathsisbest's Avatar
    You could miss the all important shot with any camera if you aren't ready. How many people wish to walk around with a visible $500 and up DSLR around there neck? More than likely you'll have it in a back pack or somewhere safe until you think you'll need it.
    I'm comparing a laggy 1020 vs a fast 930. You're less likely to miss the important shot with a Lumia 930, compared to a Lumia 1020.

    You talk about readiness. You could be ready with a Lumia 1020 for the past 20 mins, but if it lags, then you miss the shot. So for smartphones, it isn't about readiness, but the lag.
    12-21-2014 07:04 PM
  5. Cameron Todd's Avatar
    I've got the Lumia 1520, 930 and 1020. If I had to pick a phone out of those, I'd pick a 1520, 930 and then a 1020. Why?
    If you've got a DSLR camera, then the 1020 is not that useful. Don't get me wrong, it's got a great camera, but nothing compared to a dedicated camera.

    The 930 is a great all round device. No lag and is new. The 1020 is a 2yr old device and it lags a lot with the camera and the OS.
    I would stay with the1020 as well. I haven't noticed any lag at all.it runs very smooth
    12-21-2014 08:51 PM
  6. Cameron Todd's Avatar
    Quality you say? Not really, 1020 have a plasticky feel, it doesn't feel like a 700 dollars( original price I paid), and in just a week of owning it, I already made few dings in corner. I find the 930 more durable and it feels solid too. If you're into aesthetics I'd say 930, it also have great camera for casual user( almost all Nokia phone have great cameras though, even my n95 can beat galaxy s4's camera at some point). If you only want is the camera choose the L1020, but beware, image processing is extremely slow(you'll gonna be disappointed with it at some point), stationary photography is what its best and its a fairly old smartphone, its almost 2 years old. If you want, wait a little moment, MS is I think releasing a new phone/flagship probably the L1030 or something.
    Its hardly almost two years old. It was released in September 2013. Just over ONE year ago.
    12-21-2014 08:55 PM
  7. raycpl's Avatar
    If you're camera-centric with your phone, get the 1020. It's a beast without a doubt.
    12-21-2014 09:12 PM
  8. Arup Roy Chowdhury's Avatar
    No lags here and even for a DSLR you need to turn it on and keep it ready, same with 1020 and using touch focus I have no issues.
    12-21-2014 09:57 PM
  9. blue1k's Avatar
    Same. I've captured many awesome photos on the go with my 1020. If I need real burst not the crappy burst on Denim on the 930 I'll use my slr or mirrorless. As a mobile photographer who has had 3 1020s, 2 1520s, and a 930 I can't recommend the 1020 enough. One issue that has not been addressed is the wide angle distortion present on the 1520 and 930. Portraits get ruined and the only way to really edit this is in adobe camera raw or in Fhotoroom (5mp only). The 1020 doesn't exhibit much geometric distortion.
    12-21-2014 10:49 PM
  10. matt john2's Avatar
    Same. I've captured many awesome photos on the go with my 1020. If I need real burst not the crappy burst on Denim on the 930 I'll use my slr or mirrorless. As a mobile photographer who has had 3 1020s, 2 1520s, and a 930 I can't recommend the 1020 enough. One issue that has not been addressed is the wide angle distortion present on the 1520 and 930. Portraits get ruined and the only way to really edit this is in adobe camera raw or in Fhotoroom (5mp only). The 1020 doesn't exhibit much geometric distortion.
    Yeah if they only put dedicated processor, higher ram, less resolution or whatever that makes it faster I would be so happy .
    12-21-2014 11:18 PM
  11. Blacklac's Avatar
    I'm comparing a laggy 1020 vs a fast 930. You're less likely to miss the important shot with a Lumia 930, compared to a Lumia 1020.

    You talk about readiness. You could be ready with a Lumia 1020 for the past 20 mins, but if it lags, then you miss the shot. So for smartphones, it isn't about readiness, but the lag.
    The "lag" is after the shot is taken, in processing. There's no reason to miss a shot with the 1020 that you wouldn't with any other phone.

    I own a 1520 and a 1020. People exaggerate about the 1020. If you know you need speed shots, with the 1020, you need to be ready with the proper settings like the action sequence.
    12-21-2014 11:34 PM
  12. matt john2's Avatar
    you didnt mention launching or resuming the camera app can somewhat dissatisfying. And lets be honest, l too have the 1020 and its terribly slow not ideal for all around photography but its really really good at taking stationary objects. Image processing is also playing a huge role in photography, that's why most/all action photographers are choosing camera that has higher burst rate, faster processor and best/fastest data storage they could afford.
    12-22-2014 01:08 AM
  13. mathsisbest's Avatar
    The "lag" is after the shot is taken, in processing. There's no reason to miss a shot with the 1020 that you wouldn't with any other phone.

    I own a 1520 and a 1020. People exaggerate about the 1020. If you know you need speed shots, with the 1020, you need to be ready with the proper settings like the action sequence.
    I've got the 1520, 1020 and 930. If I need to take a fast picture, I use my 930. Simple. I use my 1020 for scenic shots, but even then, I've usually got my DSLR to take them.
    12-22-2014 03:04 AM
  14. Steve Adams's Avatar
    I have 2 1020s and have not seen the "lag" the non owners speak of. I get way more shots from my 1020 than I ever would from my other phones. I get 2-3 times more useable shots with the 1020. Plus doing everyday things with my phone works perfect.
    12-22-2014 04:46 AM
  15. mathsisbest's Avatar
    I have 2 1020s and have not seen the "lag" the non owners speak of. I get way more shots from my 1020 than I ever would from my other phones. I get 2-3 times more useable shots with the 1020. Plus doing everyday things with my phone works perfect.
    If you have a 930/1520 then you would notice the lag. The 1020 does lag compared to those phones and I have missed important shots due to the lag.
    12-22-2014 05:29 AM
  16. heickelrrx's Avatar
    Get 930. It got better chip.
    Hey Cortana also available.

    When it comes to photography it has take full advantage of denim firmware and Nokia camera apps
    12-22-2014 05:32 AM
  17. arnark's Avatar
    I think people are missing the price a bit here. Let's say you are paying full price for 930 and half of that for 1020 . Then it's a question of finding a cheap 1020 somewhere and with that in mind buying later the 1030 if it ever comes out in 6 months maybe? or something. But if it was for a future phone I would always go for 930 in my opinion as I have the denim now I can say that the camera is a monster beast :) and yes specally in low light!!
    12-22-2014 05:41 AM
  18. matt john2's Avatar
    If you have a 930/1520 then you would notice the lag. The 1020 does lag compared to those phones and I have missed important shots due to the lag.
    Yeah, I think its has the slowest camera from today's smartphones.
    12-22-2014 10:04 AM
  19. ClixT's Avatar
    I think people are missing the price a bit here. Let's say you are paying full price for 930 and half of that for 1020 . Then it's a question of finding a cheap 1020 somewhere and with that in mind buying later the 1030 if it ever comes out in 6 months maybe? or something. But if it was for a future phone I would always go for 930 in my opinion as I have the denim now I can say that the camera is a monster beast :) and yes specally in low light!!
    That's what I'm going to do.. Get a 1020 now, and wait for its successor.


    Also there's another advantage that the 1020 has over 930/1520: DXO OpticsPro supports it.
    I've been playing the software for a few days now and damn, it is amazing. :D
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    12-22-2014 11:06 AM
  20. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    930. The 1020 has serious freezing issues on wp 8.1
    12-27-2014 06:30 AM
  21. alexeysalo's Avatar
    If you've got a DSLR camera, then the 1020 is not that useful. Don't get me wrong, it's got a great camera, but nothing compared to a dedicated camera.
    Sorry man, but I think you don't have neither DSLR nor Lumia 1020. Or, perhaps, you just don't use camera at all. I do have DSLR and Lumia 1020, and I can tell you have many times I had lack of DSLR with me. But, my Lumia 1020 was always in my pocket, and photos it takes are really superior quality and feel. Due to large camera sensor the photo from Lumia 1020 looks as good as photo from DSLR (of course, quality is different, but you can't compare 1020 to other smartphone, photos looks much more like DSLR and not smartphone). The size of 1020's sensor is really huge and it makes very big difference. Sensor is even bigger than in most mid class compact cameras (or even top compact cameras).
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    12-28-2014 03:59 AM
  22. alexeysalo's Avatar
    Get 930. It got better chip.
    It really doesn't matter till you use Windows Phone. I almost didn't notice any difference in speed after swit

    Hey Cortana also available.
    Who cares? Why is this so important?

    When it comes to photography it has take full advantage of denim firmware and Nokia camera apps
    Full advantage? What are you talking about? A 4k video? How does it relate to photography? You can only take full advantage with huge camera sensor and RAW format in Lumia 1020.
    12-28-2014 06:33 AM
  23. alexeysalo's Avatar
    930. The 1020 has serious freezing issues on wp 8.1
    There is NO ANY (even not serious) freezing on wp 8.1. Lumia 1020 works perfectly on this OS version (it worked perfectly on Windows 8, then on Windows 8.1). Why are you telling lie? Or maybe you just have a defective smartphone?
    12-28-2014 06:37 AM
  24. alexeysalo's Avatar
    Yeah, I think its has the slowest camera from today's smartphones.
    Yep, it has the slowest camera from today's smartphones with DSLR quality. Oh, wait a minute... there is no smartphone except Lumia 1020 with such camera quality! :) So, there is no cameraphone to compare with. ;)
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    12-28-2014 06:41 AM
  25. mathsisbest's Avatar
    Sorry man, but I think you don't have neither DSLR nor Lumia 1020. Or, perhaps, you just don't use camera at all. I do have DSLR and Lumia 1020, and I can tell you have many times I had lack of DSLR with me. But, my Lumia 1020 was always in my pocket, and photos it takes are really superior quality and feel. Due to large camera sensor the photo from Lumia 1020 looks as good as photo from DSLR (of course, quality is different, but you can't compare 1020 to other smartphone, photos looks much more like DSLR and not smartphone). The size of 1020's sensor is really huge and it makes very big difference. Sensor is even bigger than in most mid class compact cameras (or even top compact cameras).
    I've got a DSLR and a Lumia 1020. Your point?

    You can't compare a smartphone with a DSLR. The DSLR wins due to the image quality. If you're talking about portability, then the Lumia 1020 wins. But even then, the Lumia 930 beats the Lumia 1020 as it doesn't lag.

    The Lumia 1020 lags after taking the picture. Don't make up rubbish and say the camera doesn't lag. I've got the Lumia 930, 1520, 920, 625 and 1020. Heck, even a 2yr old 920 is faster than the 1020.

    The only problem with the 1020 is that it promises DSLR quality (it doesn't). It offers portability, but the 930 beats that. I'm looking forward to the 1030, with no lag
    12-28-2014 06:46 AM
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