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  1. carguy303's Avatar
    I used nokia care suite it was fairly straight forward but a word of warning for those with North American devices, you lose LTE and the process to get it back is a lot harder.
    12-24-2014 01:28 AM
  2. Marc Cupido 44's Avatar
    F##k MS! Great way to support the worlds best camera phone! It was your fault Nokia couldn't use better specs because at that time WP did not support 1080p screens and Quad Core's which would have given us 1020 users all these features.
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    12-24-2014 01:48 AM
  3. marratj's Avatar
    Were you promised additional functionality on that phone?
    Is the camera worse than before/promised?

    What were you expecting? 4K recording?
    The only thing I would have wanted is the faster camera app (only for startup time, that the large shots need time for saving is ok), but not even this we get although the new Lumia Camera 5 works fine on Cyan (without the Rich Capture and Moments features of course) with my 1520.

    So maybe they will still release the new app for the old phones.
    12-24-2014 08:48 AM
  4. Jean Sagarese's Avatar
    they announced in August that Denim does nothing for the 1020 and it is on the way to not being supported.
    12-24-2014 09:54 AM
  5. colinkiama's Avatar
    He has a point you know. Every firmware update has brought changes to camera algorithms. The 1020 is MS's premiere shooter and at the very least they could have included tweaks to improve sharpening (like on the 830) and the speed of the camera application opening. Is that too much to ask for a device just over 1 year old?

    I'm not ok with that but if you are then so be it. But I'm with the person above you. That's it MS? Really? Great way for consumers to believe you support them by completely ignoring the only device capable of shooting at 38MP
    The only thing Microsoft could have at least done is make the start up time for lumia camera classic faster. It doesn't make sense that the 830 can start instantly while the the 735 with exactly the same cpu,cannot start the app around the same speed.
    12-24-2014 10:09 AM
  6. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    Guys do you still have the freezing issues after Denim? I can confirm that the Denim update Does NOT fix the problems!!
    12-24-2014 02:00 PM
  7. blue1k's Avatar
    Guys do you still have the freezing issues after Denim? I can confirm that the Denim update Does NOT fix the problems!!
    You have Denim on the 1020?
    12-24-2014 03:25 PM
  8. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    You have Denim on the 1020?
    Yes, on O2 germany but it does not bring anything new related to Camera...
    12-25-2014 01:12 PM
  9. marratj's Avatar
    As Denim doesn't bring a real firmware upgrade for the older phones, only OS, it could very well be that the update from Microsoft to fix the freezing issues on the 925 & 1020 is not yet included here, but will be a separate small update.
    12-26-2014 03:49 AM
  10. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    For now I have reverted to 8.0
    12-26-2014 10:21 AM
  11. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    Besides the same freezing issues, nothing new for 1020.
    12-27-2014 06:24 AM
  12. monzki's Avatar
    Me too, I'm hoping for some speed improvements for 1020 camera. The device is just 1+ year old, it should still be well supported. 1020 is still the top tier cameraphone of MS.

    One of the reasons why I chose Windows Phone is the support and updates (compared to androids). Now people are saying if you want updates get the latest phone. That pretty sounds like android.

    EDIT: Even the older 808 takes photo faster than the 1020. Maybe it's not the hardware but WP API itself?
    12-28-2014 09:01 AM
  13. Harrie-S's Avatar
    Hope is a good thing but DEMIN will not have improvements for the 1020 camera.
    And the reason is hardware. Only snapdragon 800 can have this improvement.
    But if you do not want to belief this than do not belief it.
    Last edited by Harrie-S; 12-28-2014 at 09:21 AM.
    12-28-2014 09:09 AM
  14. monzki's Avatar
    So why does the older 808 takes faster shot than the 1020 if it's because of the hardware?
    12-28-2014 09:26 AM
  15. milkyway's Avatar
    that's because the 808 has a dedicated GPU for the downsampling - the 1020 doesn't have such a GPU.
    12-28-2014 09:35 AM
  16. dKp1977's Avatar
    that's because the 808 has a dedicated GPU for the downsampling - the 1020 doesn't have such a GPU.


    Exactly this. It's overwhelming to see large quantities of people not having the slightest clue about anything, yet still complaining the heck about everything.
    12-28-2014 09:36 AM
  17. rollindice's Avatar
    So why does the older 808 takes faster shot than the 1020 if it's because of the hardware?
    The 808 has a dedicated Broadcom chip which takes care of the image processing whereas the Lumia 1020 image processing is in the main SoC (2gb of RAM ) tuned for boost colours and sharpen detail.
    12-28-2014 09:37 AM
  18. poddie's Avatar
    From what I have heard, it's not that the 1020 CAN'T have the improvements, it's that they would have to code them much differently for the older processors. Given that Windows 10 is right around the corner, it seems they have decided not to expend the effort. Obviously the results would not be as good as a Snapdragon 800 regardless, but they could certainly improve it a lot. It's very unfortunate.

    I have purchased a used 1520 of eBay so that I will be able to play with the new camera improvements. My biggest problem with the whole situation is that Microsoft seems completely content with no flagship until W10 comes out in nine months or whatever. The icon and 1520 ate now discontinued, so they aren't even currently selling a phone that will be able to take advantage of the new camera benefits in full. The 830 is nice, but completely hobbled by the processor and the camera is only 10 megapixel. Completely ridiculous.
    12-28-2014 09:38 AM
  19. monzki's Avatar
    So the Adreno 225 on the 1020 can't process the oversampling faster than the 808's older gpu? That doesn't make sense.

    Regardless of the hardware, you need to code to optimize which is essentially the software. In this case the API for the 1020 camera needs to be optimized.

    There's no true multitasking on WP, so if you have the camera app open, they can use the Adreno 225 solely for the camera. Again the 1020 gpu is much faster than the 808.
    12-28-2014 09:39 AM
  20. rollindice's Avatar
    Well mine is unlocked version from MS directly. I received a small update but mine does NOT show denim. It says cyan even with all app updates applied. I don't have folder features from gdr1 though.
    Didn't Microsoft said they would release an update to make Lumia 1020,move nit faster and stop resuming lag? I remember it was mentioned sometime back so maybe the update was that
    12-28-2014 09:44 AM
  21. monzki's Avatar
    Anyhow, I'm just getting tired of these excuses with 1020 camera speed. Don't mean to argue but I'm just disappointed..
    12-28-2014 09:47 AM
  22. blue1k's Avatar
    So the Adreno 225 on the 1020 can't process the oversampling faster than the 808's older gpu? That doesn't make sense.

    Regardless of the hardware, you need to code to optimize which is essentially the software. In this case the API for the 1020 camera needs to be optimized.

    There's no true multitasking on WP, so if you have the camera app open, they can use the Adreno 225 solely for the camera. Again the 1020 gpu is much faster than the 808.
    Makes perfect sense. You can't compare a dedicated imaging chip on the 808 to an onboard gpu. It's not the same thing at all. You are comparing apple and oranges. The 1020 should have been designed differently but the SoC chosen didn't allow for a separate chip. The throughput of an on board gpu is so much less vs a dedicated imaging chip. It's not even fair.
    12-28-2014 09:49 AM
  23. Harrie-S's Avatar
    Dear monzki please become a developer and make a superfast camera for the 1020. I will buy your app. Thanks
    12-28-2014 09:50 AM
  24. monzki's Avatar
    @Harrie-S if you're satisfied with 1020's camera speed that's up to you. But as a 1020 owner I am still expecting a better support for its camera. If the Denim update doesn't bring some speed improvements on the 1020, that would really be a big disappointment. I know a lot of 1020 owners would feel the same.
    Jakez98 and josemon like this.
    12-28-2014 10:05 AM
  25. rollindice's Avatar
    Anyhow, I'm just getting tired of these excuses with 1020 camera speed. Don't mean to argue but I'm just disappointed..
    I know how you feel but we cant change the facts about our Lumia 1020 hardware
    12-28-2014 10:07 AM
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