11-06-2015 04:31 AM
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  1. Skittle Milk's Avatar
    So I just yesterday purchased a Lumia 1020 for what I think was a steal at $120. Phone is in like new condition and I of course couldn't be happier with the camera. My question is this, seeing as how we're moving into the era of W10M how many people are still using and enjoying the 1020 as their daily driver and how many plan to KEEP using it? Did I buy a phone with little to no community support or a phone that will go down as a legend and fight all the way down? What are your thoughts on the 1020 and it's ability to run W10M, especially those running the latest Insider builds?
    10-31-2015 03:56 AM
  2. SammUL's Avatar
    10-31-2015 05:07 AM
  3. Tom Stuart1's Avatar
    Hi Skittle. Welcome to 1020 club. I am a fairly new owner myself and just getting to grips with it. There are some superb articles here but also on the all about windowsphone website where Steve Litchfield the world's greatest advocate for the 1020 reviews the 1020 in the new world of W10M.
    The big thing I learned today is that you shoot your photos with the Lumia Camera app not the new Camera app and also edit/ reframe them IN the Lumia camera app. I was getting confused trying to use the Lumia Creative Studio app to reframe the oversampled images. I am learning all the time. I also have the Lumia 1520 which has a lovely big screen and faster camera. Good luck.
    10-31-2015 05:11 AM
  4. ROBBIE HALL's Avatar
    Welcome Skittle. I too am a 1020 owner and have been using windows 10 mobile (W10M) insider preview from inception.
    The latest build is great!
    Working well on my device.
    I'll take the initiative and try to answer a few of the questions you may have:
    1. How do I get the latest build? Install the windows insider app from the store. Choose "Fast Ring". Check for updates.
    2. Should I backup? Yes.
    3. Should I hard reset after backup? Yes.
    Here is some advice. Go to store. Turn auto update off. Download and install all the SYSTEM apps you will need. (only system apps no others as yet.) Languages, keyboards, Lumia camera, glance screen etc. Update ALL system apps except Lumia camera. Install windows insider. Backup this. Install latest build. Hard reset. Restore THAT last backup and you're good to go.
    10-31-2015 06:23 AM
  5. Skittle Milk's Avatar
    I appreciate all the feedback I've gotten thus far. Thanks all. I believe the last two preview builds have done away entirely with Lumia Camera, unfortunately. That being said, is there another app besides the default one that makes better use of the industry-leading camera or is there a way to make the default camera app work better with the camera? I get a feeling with the default Microsoft Camera app, the 41MP is not being utilized to it's greatest potential...
    10-31-2015 06:38 PM
  6. ROBBIE HALL's Avatar
    Im on build 10581 and lumia camera is my default camera app.....
    11-01-2015 12:00 AM
  7. Ixia's Avatar
    I thought Lumia Camera was staying for the 1020? You might also want to take a look at Proshot, which is a pretty good app.
    11-01-2015 02:58 AM
  8. Skittle Milk's Avatar
    Indeed I stand corrected. I have downloaded Lumia Camera on my 1020. Pity it cannot be had on the 640 as I really am not a fan of the default Microsoft camera. Any who, do any fellow 1020-toting individuals have any tips on how to get the best shots possible using Lumia Cam?
    11-01-2015 03:30 AM
  9. ROBBIE HALL's Avatar
    I asked the same question. If you check my profile there is a thread I participated in where one person sent me a link to a walkthrough of taking great pics. When I find the link ill edit
    11-01-2015 12:13 PM
  10. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    For some if you hard reset on wm10, you will lose lumia camera. I haven't hard reset and it's been 2 days now and everything runs great. No glitches, bugs etc.
    11-02-2015 05:58 AM
  11. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    Indeed I stand corrected. I have downloaded Lumia Camera on my 1020. Pity it cannot be had on the 640 as I really am not a fan of the default Microsoft camera. Any who, do any fellow 1020-toting individuals have any tips on how to get the best shots possible using Lumia Cam?
    Best idea is to take your phone on a photo expedition and try it out in different scenarios - scenery, dawn, dusk, cities, closeups-macro, people, indoors and you will slowly understand what settings to use in each scenario. More or less you will change light settings depending on lighting conditions like sunny or cloudy, incandescent or fluorescent or auto.

    Sometimes you will change focus manually to get a macro shot

    ISO and shutter speed - you might change when indoors as lighting could be mediocre

    Check your photos after taking them, review them and try to gauge whether that's what you wanted from the camera. If you take a photo of a flower in strong sunlight, it might appear too bright. So next time you try to reduce exposure.

    Try several shots of the scenario if you can and then later review and select the best ones. Always copy them to the pc and keep them for future reference

    I would recommend you NOT to use auto upload to onedrive as that would consume a lot of battery and data. I've always kept it off. I would be a fool to upload 3Gb of photos per day when that data bundle would cost me 10USD. Spending 200USD per month on data is crazy

    Pack an extra power bank in case of long trips

    Keep your hands steady when taking shots. It has OIS but you also need to play your part. If you can and it's available in your country and you have the money, buy the camera grip and use a tripod. Majority of countries don't have this unfortunately

    If you have specific questions, just quote me and I'll answer as quick as possible
    11-02-2015 06:09 AM
  12. mariachris's Avatar
    For some if you hard reset on wm10, you will lose lumia camera. I haven't hard reset and it's been 2 days now and everything runs great. No glitches, bugs etc.
    You can always get your lumia camera app back from "my library". As for the latest build, I agree with you it's been a great experience I've been using it for 4 days. Only one problem so far: the mobile hotspot/internet sharing doesn't work after the screen locks itself. Anyways, warm welcome to any L1020 users. 😊
    11-02-2015 12:39 PM
  13. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    You can always get your lumia camera app back from "my library". As for the latest build, I agree with you it's been a great experience I've been using it for 4 days. Only one problem so far: the mobile hotspot/internet sharing doesn't work after the screen locks itself. Anyways, warm welcome to any L1020 users.
    This doesn't work for all users. If you've read the forums, you'll find some people saying it's not available in their library. I'm not risking losing lumia camera so I can hard reset for some marginal improvement in performance
    11-02-2015 11:02 PM
  14. Steve Adams's Avatar
    Welcome to owning the best windows phone ever. arguably the best phone ever. I have had them all, yes some are marginally faster, etc, but overall experience and the camera make the 1020 the best. Its a shame that Microsoft did away with the design and philosophy of the 1020 phone.
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    11-03-2015 05:03 AM
  15. Skittle Milk's Avatar
    Best idea is to take your phone on a photo expedition and try it out in different scenarios - scenery, dawn, dusk, cities, closeups-macro, people, indoors and you will slowly understand what settings to use in each scenario. More or less you will change light settings depending on lighting conditions like sunny or cloudy, incandescent or fluorescent or auto.

    Sometimes you will change focus manually to get a macro shot

    ISO and shutter speed - you might change when indoors as lighting could be mediocre

    Check your photos after taking them, review them and try to gauge whether that's what you wanted from the camera. If you take a photo of a flower in strong sunlight, it might appear too bright. So next time you try to reduce exposure.

    Try several shots of the scenario if you can and then later review and select the best ones. Always copy them to the pc and keep them for future reference

    I would recommend you NOT to use auto upload to onedrive as that would consume a lot of battery and data. I've always kept it off. I would be a fool to upload 3Gb of photos per day when that data bundle would cost me 10USD. Spending 200USD per month on data is crazy

    Pack an extra power bank in case of long trips

    Keep your hands steady when taking shots. It has OIS but you also need to play your part. If you can and it's available in your country and you have the money, buy the camera grip and use a tripod. Majority of countries don't have this unfortunately

    If you have specific questions, just quote me and I'll answer as quick as possible
    I do have a question that isn't camera related but I don't wanna ask in the main forums because I'm sure it'd be like beating a dead horse...what's the end-all be-all of Twitter apps on WP, even running 10? The official app seems...lacking to say the least. I don't mind paying for something faster and more full featured. Thanks in advance.
    11-03-2015 08:29 AM
  16. Skittle Milk's Avatar
    Welcome to owning the best windows phone ever. arguably the best phone ever. I have had them all, yes some are marginally faster, etc, but overall experience and the camera make the 1020 the best. Its a shame that Microsoft did away with the design and philosophy of the 1020 phone.
    Why is this, in your opinion, the best ever. Is it the camera module alone that keeps it in the top spot in your eyes? Does it beat out something like...say...the L1520?
    11-03-2015 08:51 AM
  17. Steve Adams's Avatar
    Why is this, in your opinion, the best ever. Is it the camera module alone that keeps it in the top spot in your eyes? Does it beat out something like...say...the L1520?
    Many reasons,

    1. Camera. The camera kicks massive amounts of butt! I have used most every other camera lately in phones and the 1020s camera produces the best photos period

    2. The camera grip that is offered with the phone. It adds extra battery, and a tripod mount. A boon when out shooting.

    3. Size. The 1520 is a great phone, but it is massive. the 1020 is still a great size that you can use single handedly.

    4. Battery life is great on our end. I get all day useage plus. at the end of most days I am at about 40% or so.
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    11-03-2015 05:49 PM
  18. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    I do have a question that isn't camera related but I don't wanna ask in the main forums because I'm sure it'd be like beating a dead horse...what's the end-all be-all of Twitter apps on WP, even running 10? The official app seems...lacking to say the least. I don't mind paying for something faster and more full featured. Thanks in advance.
    I'm not on twitter so I can't help you there. Sorry
    11-03-2015 11:36 PM
  19. Steve Adams's Avatar
    I am not using twitter either. Oh, just rememebered probably the best thing about the 1020 is, when you pull it out in public, there are always a few that freak out when they even see it. Whats that! and their eyes light up!
    11-04-2015 03:38 AM
  20. ROBBIE HALL's Avatar
    most persons would tell you tweetium (for twitter) in a heartbeat! and 6tag for instagram.
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    11-04-2015 11:39 AM
  21. Skittle Milk's Avatar
    I gotta say though, it is odd how poorly such a camera handles macro shots. How do y'all pull off stellar close-up imagery?
    11-05-2015 11:08 AM
  22. Qtweeder's Avatar
    i pull back out a bit physically, and then use the lossless zoom slider to get the close up, zooming in

    I gotta say though, it is odd how poorly such a camera handles macro shots. How do y'all pull off stellar close-up imagery?
    11-05-2015 01:13 PM
  23. Steve Adams's Avatar
    There are two ways, one. Qtweeders way, or you can switch to manual focus and you can focus that way. The manual focus works great on the 1020.
    11-05-2015 01:31 PM
  24. Skittle Milk's Avatar
    I typically use pinch to zoom? Is that not the same as this lossless slider? And if not, where in the settings do I find this slider? I do apologize for my relative lack of knowledge in regards to this camera :/
    11-05-2015 09:53 PM
  25. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    I typically use pinch to zoom? Is that not the same as this lossless slider? And if not, where in the settings do I find this slider? I do apologize for my relative lack of knowledge in regards to this camera :/
    You can zoom as you said, pinch (but outwards, right?) or slide your finger up or down on the screen. That's for zooming

    For macro shots - you can tap to focus on the object of interest or slide the macro slider to what you want and move your phone until you get the desired focus.

    There are 5 sliders for manual controls. when you select the camera button on the screen and slide it outwards, you'll see all 5 options as curved sliders - lighting options, focus, iso, shutter speed, exposure

    Alternatively, you can select individual sliders from the top part of the screen where you see flash, lighting settings etc. Just tap on the one you want. This works when you're on manual mode

    Sorry I don't have screen shots to show this
    11-06-2015 02:03 AM
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