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  1. cliac's Avatar
    My L1020 is downloading 10586.682 now. I'll keep using it for another month also then things could change. Let's see.
    11-16-2016 01:21 PM
  2. Ektalog's Avatar
    Was surprised to get the "anniversary" update to my 1020 last night!

    (I should point out that it is not the real anniversary update... but that is what it says when you view "more info")

    Build 10586.682
    How's it going so far. Any showstoppers?
    11-19-2016 01:31 AM
  3. Marlon Bu's Avatar
    10586.682 is for me a little more unstable, but battery lasts longer. Camera still crashes often and needs to fully restart the system to get camera working again.
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    11-19-2016 05:31 PM
  4. Anamnesis's Avatar
    How's it going so far. Any showstoppers?
    The biggest improvement for me by far is the battery life... I wasn't even getting a day out of it before this update and now I am still on 60-70% by 4pm which was unheard of before. The only other noticeable change for me is that the phone doesn't seem to get as warm in use anymore either. I mainly use the device as a camera and having the display on for longer than 5 minutes at a time used to heat the thing up pretty quick, but that seems to have been fixed.

    I still have issues with apps that try to access the camera (skype, office lens etc) which just don't work, but for the most part this seems to have been a pretty positive update for me :)
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    11-22-2016 04:04 PM
  5. Ektalog's Avatar
    Thanks for the input, gang. Darn, I did jump the gun, it seems. [Yeah, I'm THAT dumb ]

    [For the following comments; it is a US-based L1020/ATT, Keep in mind that I have never used this L1020 as a phone yet. I was planning to switch the account to it this week. ]

    I have to get home and check again but I suspect I was a little "too successful" in jumping to W10. From 8.1 it seems that (in stages) my L1020 went to [v1607] 10.0.14965.1001 in WI's Slow Ring (one of the latest Redstone builds?). My own PC's are lower!

    One nice thing is that I recovered the Lumia/Nokia Camera -- which I lost at the initial W10 stages -- and that works just fine after 50 or so test shots. Oddest thing, however, is that the Windows Start menu listed it as "Nokia Camera" at first. And then, it switched to listing it as "Lumia Camera" the same afternoon. Go figure...it seems to be working just the same.

    There are other oddities which have been observed by others in earlier builds of W10. For example, "Glance" is gone. Also, while taking pictures, the camera DID flame out twice but came back up without a need for reboot. I suspect that it was just me sliding my finger too far around on the manual exposure ring controls...hitting the bottom controls by mistake. I do need to check again.

    One major (unknown) oddity so far...I had changed the phone's registry to "1520" for the forced upgrade tweak. Yet, with this latest build it had accepted, it switched itself back to "Nokia 909". I am now wondering if it it will no longer accept W10 W_Insider upgrades as a result. For now I am hesitant to go to try the Fast Ring. So, I'll post what I find as I see it...and reply to q's.

    I still plan to switch the phone account this week...living THIS dangerously is [affordably] appealing
    Last edited by Ektalog; 11-22-2016 at 05:21 PM.
    11-22-2016 05:09 PM
  6. cliac's Avatar
    The biggest improvement for me by far is the battery life... I wasn't even getting a day out of it before this update and now I am still on 60-70% by 4pm which was unheard of before. ...
    I can confirm this point. The battery lasted for 6~8 hrs when I had .594. Now I think it's at about 15 hrs with normal use. It still drain very fast when using some apps though.

    ...I still have issues with apps that try to access the camera (skype, office lens etc) which just don't work, but for the most part this seems to have been a pretty positive update for me :)
    The camera didn't work right after .682 installed. I did a soft reset then the problem was gone. The only app that has camera problem for me is official BOA. Office Lens works fine. I don't use Skype so I can't test it.
    11-22-2016 05:48 PM
  7. Anamnesis's Avatar
    There are other oddities which have been observed by others in earlier builds of W10. For example, "Glance" is gone. :
    Glance screen only disappears if you hack install redstone to the device... it has and still works fine on the correct insider builds built for the 1020. Or at least I have never had an issue with it.... would be a deal breaker for me if it stopped working as I keep my phone on a charging stand at work where it is set to display constantly.

    The camera didn't work right after .682 installed. I did a soft reset then the problem was gone. The only app that has camera problem for me is official BOA. Office Lens works fine. I don't use Skype so I can't test it.
    Yup, soft reset fixed office lens.... no go with Skype though (no biggie as I don't actually use it either, but just one of the things I have found that doesn't work...)
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    11-22-2016 09:23 PM
  8. Ektalog's Avatar
    Glance screen only disappears if you hack install redstone to the device... it has and still works fine on the correct insider builds built for the 1020. Or at least I have never had an issue with it.... would be a deal breaker for me if it stopped working as I keep my phone on a charging stand at work where it is set to display constantly.
    Thanks! I was aware that I could get it back but it never hurts to get confirmation.

    Of far more concern, I borrowed an active H2O SIM card and finally tried it as a phone when I got home this evening. It mostly worked fine but...bummer, the exception may be a showstopper for me! That's because "hotspot" is blocked in this unlocked formerly ATT unit. Yet, in a miserable Blu Win Jr, LTE+Win10 the hotspot speed using this same SIM rivals some basic cable broadband speeds!

    There probably is a way around this issue...more tricks to search...never a dull moment!
    11-22-2016 11:11 PM
  9. vivinia's Avatar
    i was use 1020 as the only and main phone untill this monday.my screen was brokened now and i cannot find a lumia 1020 screen in China now.who can help me ?thanks !!
    Last edited by Muessig; 12-10-2016 at 03:54 AM.
    12-10-2016 12:51 AM
  10. jazen's Avatar
    I may be relegating my 1020 to secondary phone today; I picked up a nanoSIM to use with my Lumia 735.
    12-11-2016 12:40 AM
  11. Johnson Rajan's Avatar
    Lumia 1020 had been my daily driver since the last 3 years. Had tried W10 many a time but had to revert back because it was very buggy. It came to a point that I was going to buy a new phone. And as a last attempt installed 10.0.14393.576 thro' registry hack. The best windows 10 build on this phone. Really good battery life. Used 10 hrs light use, few calls and still had 83% left this evening. Camera is ok. No glance but got it setup in my previous build and it works as I need. Very fluid, never seen any resuming bug that annoyed me before. Task switching is really fast, no delay. Camera and photos are ok. If this keeps up will continue using it. Did anyone have similar experience???
    12-15-2016 01:51 PM
  12. SammUL's Avatar
    Lumia 1020 had been my daily driver since the last 3 years. Had tried W10 many a time but had to revert back because it was very buggy. It came to a point that I was going to buy a new phone. And as a last attempt installed 10.0.14393.576 thro' registry hack. The best windows 10 build on this phone. Really good battery life. Used 10 hrs light use, few calls and still had 83% left this evening. Camera is ok. No glance but got it setup in my previous build and it works as I need. Very fluid, never seen any resuming bug that annoyed me before. Task switching is really fast, no delay. Camera and photos are ok. If this keeps up will continue using it. Did anyone have similar experience???
    I wish to try it myself but no glance is a dealbreaker for me... if you could get it and post an updated guide to registry hack process that'd be great :)
    12-15-2016 03:03 PM
  13. Johnson Rajan's Avatar
    I had gone back to W8.1. Then rooted phone and changed Phone info via regedit loading hive. This updated my phone to 10586.3xx not sure. At this stage I sideloaded Glance. It didn't install as the instructions were given. Never showed up in extras. But an app popped up with some different name. It let me to set up glance the way I wanted it. The build was a bit slow and was not very smooth. Had to change the Phone info again as had done a hard rest. This brought me the the latest build. Surprisingly glance settings didn't change after update. Tried to sideload glance, it installed exactly as the last time, but when I opened, it just showed settings on top and nothing else so it was broken.
    Haven't managed to install Here Drive which I miss.
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    12-16-2016 09:53 AM
  14. patrikmore's Avatar
    Don't fight against Microsoft. Windows Phone 8.1 is fine and Here Drive is working. Wait quietly until the next great photo phone.
    12-17-2016 07:26 PM
  15. milkyway's Avatar
    Don't fight against Microsoft. Windows Phone 8.1 is fine and Here Drive is working. Wait quietly until the next great photo phone.
    Don't fight against Microsoft??
    12-18-2016 12:12 PM
  16. SammUL's Avatar
    Don't fight against Microsoft??
    I think he's trying to say that one should avoid upgrading to OS builds which are beyond what the OS (microsoft) meant them to be upgraded to
    Which is also what keeps me away from doing the hack thing.. I'm afraid at one point it could just stop working without notice, considering its an old architecture and officially unsupported device that has to pretend to be a different device to keep latest version of the OS :(

    If there was no risk and the process was more simple (+had glance) then I would go for it :)
    12-18-2016 01:18 PM
  17. Ektalog's Avatar
    It is fine to stay in 8.1 for many, if it works for them or if attempting the upward move is too complicated.

    For those of us either needing/wanting some of the goodies in W10 like me, or simply being adventurous (yeah, kind of me too :), there is the safety net that one can always return to 8.1. But, sure, the risk is always there. Thus, the folks to which line #1 applies may be the wisest and should not feel defensive. (Darn, I cannot brag of being all that smart, to be honest.)
    12-18-2016 07:50 PM
  18. milkyway's Avatar
    I think he's trying to say that one should avoid upgrading to OS builds which are beyond what the OS (microsoft) meant them to be upgraded to
    Which is also what keeps me away from doing the hack thing.. I'm afraid at one point it could just stop working without notice, considering its an old architecture and officially unsupported device that has to pretend to be a different device to keep latest version of the OS :(

    If there was no risk and the process was more simple (+had glance) then I would go for it :)
    I totally understand your point of view but there's not really any risk involved. You can always flash your original 8.1 ROM if something goes bad down the line.
    12-19-2016 02:13 AM
  19. patrikmore's Avatar
    When I said Don't fight against Microsoft?? I meant the decision was already made by Microsoft not developing the necessary drivers firmware laying to make 1020 compatible.
    12-19-2016 05:56 AM
  20. milkyway's Avatar
    When I said Don't fight against Microsoft?? I meant the decision was already made by Microsoft not developing the necessary drivers firmware laying to make 1020 compatible.
    But it is compatible. We had this discussion over and over. There are other reasons to not support the 1020 and many other x20 phones for MS. Mainly because of costs (it's cheaper to officially support fewer phones) and of appearance (if W10M only runs on fast phones people will assume it's a fast OS. if they see it on slow phones they could assume it's a slow OS).
    The 1020 runs W10M perfectly fine. Sometimes it's even better than on 8.1.
    12-20-2016 02:54 AM
  21. SammUL's Avatar
    Can someone post an updated guide to hack the 1020 to latest W10M for those already on Threshold build? With Glance hack? For Christmas plz? :D
    12-20-2016 09:34 AM
  22. milkyway's Avatar
    Can someone post an updated guide to hack the 1020 to latest W10M for those already on Threshold build? With Glance hack? For Christmas plz? :D
    There are already many posts and threads about that:
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...2x-series.html
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    12-21-2016 03:00 AM
  23. SammUL's Avatar
    Thanks milkywayz! I read it again and for those already on 10M, there's much less 'hacking' required, and I now have redstone :)

    however, unfortunately I can't manage to enable glance screen even after following the guides :(

    Update: I got glance now tee hee ^_^
    Last edited by SammUL; 12-21-2016 at 04:08 PM.
    12-21-2016 10:08 AM
  24. Ektalog's Avatar
    ...however, unfortunately I can't manage to enable glance screen even after following the guides :(
    I myself left the reinstalling of Glance for later. That said, THIS* tool may be helpful if you are already in W10. It is "pre-release", but it may be a good resource to have for all those who are already in Win10 (and have a flair for "tweaking" :)). It gives quite a few easy extra options...and the registry edit works like charm in my L1020. (The PC interface usually works fine but, for short text tweaks, the phone entry itself can be used.)

    *ref link: at XDA: Interop Tools - A versatile registry app for all devices, doesn't require cap unlock
    12-21-2016 08:10 PM
  25. Johnson Rajan's Avatar
    I too thought the same and I bricked my 1020. The battery went so low that it was not being detected by pc for flash. And nothing would show on the screen. I thought I lost my phone. But left it to charge for a day and got it flashed. Ohhh I nearly lost my phone. But back to W10.
    12-21-2016 10:53 PM
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