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  1. ragingklu's Avatar
    So it was just the perceived lack of apps that did it for you?

    There's not much detail in the review about "why". That's usually what people want to hear from a subjective review. I think the size might have been a contributing factor and you mention it couldn't satisfy your app appetite, but nothing else that I could use if I was relying on your review to help me out.

    Which apps and why?
    01-07-2014 01:51 PM
  2. Dave Blake's Avatar
    I am reposting this from Android Central...mostly for people like me that read the reviews of the 1520....I am sure I am going to burn in WP hell, but I believe to maintain the credibility of these forums that real people and users need to post their real life experiences.
    ____________________________________________________________________________________
    First off I wanna give props to Mobile Nation....I really like this concept of one master community for all phones and operating systems. I depend on user forums regardless of the product to filter fan bois and haters and come up with an educated, personal decision on what is best for my needs.

    My Galaxy S3 was a very good phone. Maybe due to her age, but the battery life seemed to really wane and after KitKat things just were not right. The Samsung ads make me boil because I think they are so stupid trying to convince me in the value of being able to fart purple with their phones. The Lebron James ads are pretty effective though because they almost seem like real life applications. But, I was obsessed with getting my first phablet and give me big baby!

    I did have a friend who has a hot girlfriend and they both are Lumia fans. There was some street cred coming from them. So, even though I had been denied twice before, I called into AT&T and tried to sing my song one more time. They got me into the 1520 AND a 2520. Dang...the 1520 was seemingly HUGE. {what is weird it that it is probably only 10% larger than the Note 3 but it seemed 50% larger}. I did not really think my daily app appetite was going to be too hard to switch over. I was wrong. The Nokia phone is a beautiful piece of art laying on the coffee table but I did not want to use it. Almost immediately I regretted the switch but also realized that the 2520 could satisfy my phablet need.

    I am not a guy to backtrack. Full steam ahead is my motto. But, I just had so much loathing for the 1520 as a daily driver, I knew I needed to return the 1520 even if it meant staying with my S3.

    Went into the local AT&T store (I had made my purchases over the phone but I was instructed it would be better to go into a store to return it...) and explained I was there to return the 1520. If you can get me into a Note 3 great...if I just leave with my S3, I am ok with it. Lesson learned.

    An hour later I left with a black Note 3 and what amazes me is how this phone does not feel big but it feels like quality and it is sexy. I am not really a stylus guy but all the newer features immediately translated to value and I am a pretty happy camper. It does bum me out that Google and Android have such dominance but for now I need my data and information a certain way and they know how to deliver it.
    I just read this whole thing I want to ask... How in any way is this a review of the L1520.

    Example My Not 3 review: I had a Note 3 I hated it I went to the AT&T and bought a Lumia 1520 and what amazes me is how this phone does not feel big but it feels like quality and it is sexy. I am not really a stylus guy I don't need one on a phone with a 6 inch screen but all the newer features immediately translated to value and I am a pretty happy camper. It does bum me out that Google and Android have such dominance but for now I need my data and information a certain way and Microsoft know hows to deliver it.
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    01-07-2014 01:56 PM
  3. jmerrey's Avatar
    Don't feed the trolls.
    01-07-2014 03:12 PM
  4. billyweber0101's Avatar
    I want one but on tmobile. Unless you guys think one might come out maybe 5.3 or 5.5 inchs.
    01-07-2014 03:26 PM
  5. mmcpher's Avatar
    It's nice that you've found a large device that you can use without quite so much "loathing". But other than its beauty and its generally being loathsome, what is it that made the 1520 untenable for you? I would like it if the 1520 incorporated a stylus, so I'd be interested in hearing your view on how you use the Note 3 Stylus. I also have an original Note, but the stylus wasn't much use, at least for me. It had unrealized potential, though. I use a stylus with my Surface Pro. Not all the time, but it is nice to have the capability and option.

    The 1520 is very large. A year or two ago I would have thought it laughable to have so large a hand held device. But I've not had your loathsome reaction to the 1520 and have managed the size issue surprisingly well so far. I have and use a Z30 and a Z10 also, so I have active size comparisons to make. When I think about what I would like to see improved on the 1520, making it smaller isn't really on my list. I would like to see more internal memory and wireless charging (ATT model) and the obvious continued improvement and selection of apps. But as it stands today, the 1520 delivers data and information in a very satisfactory way.
    01-07-2014 05:17 PM
  6. jasonmalcolmgibbins's Avatar
    When I looked at one in my store, something worried me about the display. When I pressed in the middle the screen was flexible and made the lcd warp. Is that the same for everyone? As all the Nokia screens so far have been completely rigid.
    01-07-2014 07:05 PM
  7. marc99ch's Avatar
    I'm an old Android Fanboy and pretty impressed from the 1520.

    The build quality is superb. Even more unfortunate that there is a lack when it comes to Sim/Micro Slot and the capazitive buttons (brightness/color).

    The only thing that annoys me extremely is the fact that it is not possible to deactivate the haptic feedback. I just dont need that and it surely consumes also some batterypower. Even worse that Samsung got e function for deactivation in the Ativ S.
    01-08-2014 02:25 AM
  8. ragingklu's Avatar
    When I looked at one in my store, something worried me about the display. When I pressed in the middle the screen was flexible and made the lcd warp. Is that the same for everyone? As all the Nokia screens so far have been completely rigid.
    How hard do you press? When I press on mine, I don't seem to get a lot of give, but I don't know how hard you are pressing. I'm hesitant to put too much effort into it. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a little elasticity or give as this is a huge screen and will need to allow a minimal amount of flex/pressure. You can't do that with materials which have zero give.

    I have read about people having problems with pushing on the back of the phone and getting distortion, but I don't think I have that problem either. Again though, I'm not sure how hard I want to press to test this.

    there is a lack when it comes to ... the capazitive buttons (brightness/color).
    I remember a previous device (can't remember if it was my 900 or 920 or something else) where they went ahead and made those capacitive buttons nice and white and bright.... But people also complained about that because they were just too bright and distracting in lower light situations. So it's one of those lose/lose scenarios really....
    01-08-2014 09:28 AM
  9. Phrozty's Avatar
    I still don't understand people who complain about lack of apps... yet don't list the apps that WP supposedly "lacks".....
    trandz likes this.
    01-08-2014 11:29 AM
  10. EpidemikE1's Avatar
    Okay, so I got my 1520 finally and wanted to share my first impressions.

    The size of the phone is definately something that will take some getting used to. At first it just felt awkward and weird for such a large device in my hands. It also doesnt help that I dont have large hands so navigating with a single hand can be a bit daunting. I've setup my tiles in a fashion that makes this a little easier, with all the "quick hits" closer to my thumb's range. I think I can get used to the size but it will take some time to adjust. One more thing, it can be a chore to hit the home button at times using a single hand.

    I purchased the phone in matte white and I really love the look. I also love how all of the buttons are the same matte white. The phone kind of looks like a big Chiclet! The finish can be some what slippery so you'd need to handle with care so not to have the phone jump out of your hand. I was surprised at how significant the camera bump is and with my desired setup (Skinomi full body skin) I would have to place the phone face down to protect the camera. Thats the reason I am reconsidering the setup and will be also getting a full body case. Kind of bummed about that because I really prefer not to add any bulk to the svelte design but I do want my phone to last. I also want to protect the camera lens from getting scratched if the phone is placed camera side down.

    The OS and software is great as usual. Going from a Lumia 900 and WP7.8, WP8 is light years better but with that familiar nimble UI. The biggest software improvement has to be TellMe's accuracy and the fact that speech to text has been incorporated into email clients. I only wished they incorporated more speech to text options in the UI. The Black update was immediately found and downloaded after initial setup of the phone and that went without a hitch. I tried some games and loved how well they ran and the display just makes everything look amazing. I did some tweaks like touch sensitivity brought down to normal and enabled some accessibility so I can use speech for commands via BT headset while driving. So glad to see Xbox Video there as well. Overall the OS has been greatly refined from my WP7.8 Lumia 900.

    Overall I would say this is the best WP available due to the fact that it has the latest hardware of any WP. The biggest downside is form factor of the phone. I am kind of on the fence ATM due to the size and will hopefully adjust to it. If not I probably will have to return it within the time period. The 1520 is my work phone so I really need that usability.
    01-10-2014 01:50 AM
  11. Paul May's Avatar
    Thank you for your thoughts. I have been pining after the 1520 but I was worried about the size being an issue over the long term. I hope you enjoy your upgrade to windows 8. If you don't like the 1520 its going to be very hard going back to the 900.
    01-10-2014 01:58 AM
  12. EpidemikE1's Avatar
    I'd probably go with the 1020.
    01-10-2014 11:28 AM
  13. Phrozty's Avatar
    I'd probably go with the 1020.
    There really seems to be a line w/people on this phone; some will never get over the size, and some will feel like every other phone is super tiny and can't go back. Clearly, neither is wrong, but I'm happy I'm in the later group, because I like having all the power that goes with the bigger phone :).
    01-10-2014 11:34 AM
  14. Verkunder's Avatar
    There really seems to be a line w/people on this phone; some will never get over the size, and some will feel like every other phone is super tiny and can't go back. Clearly, neither is wrong, but I'm happy I'm in the later group, because I like having all the power that goes with the bigger phone :).
    I've only gotten my 1520 two days ago, but I can absolutely tell you that the battery life on this device is, without a shadow of a doubt, ridonkulous. I'm currently sitting at an estimated 4 days, 4 hours and I've only been off the charger for about eight hours.
    01-10-2014 11:49 AM
  15. EpidemikE1's Avatar
    I've only gotten my 1520 two days ago, but I can absolutely tell you that the battery life on this device is, without a shadow of a doubt, ridonkulous. I'm currently sitting at an estimated 4 days, 4 hours and I've only been off the charger for about eight hours.
    One would hope with a 3500mAh battery.

    @Phrozty I hear you but I went from a iPhone 3G to a HTC EVO4G and I thought then that the 4.3in screen was too large. I have 29 days to test it out and if I dont get used to by then, it'll be going back. Definitely the hardware is a vast improvement in the WP lineup.
    01-10-2014 12:26 PM
  16. tonybessette's Avatar
    One would hope with a 3500mAh battery.

    @Phrozty I hear you but I went from a iPhone 3G to a HTC EVO4G and I thought then that the 4.3in screen was too large. I have 29 days to test it out and if I dont get used to by then, it'll be going back. Definitely the hardware is a vast improvement in the WP lineup.
    I had the same reaction...it is huge. I walk five miles a day in my development/neighborhood....and I'm not sure if it'll be comfortable in my hand or pocket to listen to music with. I live in FLA, so I wear running shorts and a tank...so for the past month or so (since I started walking five miles) I've had the iPhone 5 as my phone and walking MP3 player. I always held it in my hand, not too big, not too small. I have yet to go for this walk (talking a small break, or rather until I get my case/bumper)...but I think I need to soon to figure out if the 1520 is going to be too cumbersome, or be just fine.

    I have gotten fairly used to the size at home, and going to the store and whatnot. I've had the 1520 and WP8 for 8 days and I am blown away at the OS and hardware. The screen is stupid-epic in its size and clarity/color. I surf the net on it more than I do on my laptop...and the YouTube vids, and side loaded movies are beyond brilliant on this screen. The body/feel of this phone is simply wonderful as well. It's uni-body is super sleek.....the buttons are flush so it's not easy to accidentally push a button in your pocket or purse...yet not difficult to find them, and give them the proper push (you'll master this as time goes on). The battery is the best I've ever seen on any phone I've owned since my Hero, EVO, iPhone 4S, Galaxy Nexus, and my iPhone 5.

    Sure it may not have all the best apps first, albeit we do have exclusive apps ourselves. However, we currently possess all of the TOP Major apps out there. If there is a new major top app out, one that we don't have...like say, Fitbit (I have the Fitbit "Flex").....you can be sure it's in the news somewhere, or that it'll be coming out very soon. There are only TWO apps that WP doesn't have and I'm kinda "jealous" over. Those two are "BBM" and "Navy Federal Credit Union". BBM I can TOTOALLY live without, and NFCU I can use their website just fine.

    Double Tap is just lovely...lol. It's a nice feature that makes the phone feel ever MORE top of the line than it already is. 20 Megapixel "PureView" camera with Image Stabilization, and Pro Camera controls!!!?? YES PLEASE! The photos are ridiculously beautiful. I am a photographer and I use Photoshop CS6 Extended...and with this camera, lens, and flash....I can do, and have done some serious work. There isn't one thing I don't like about this phone. Are there things that could make it better, like a notification center, and a better personal assistant? ...yes, of course. However, this phone is perfect as is...and this phone will get better than it is now...with each update.

    I've read somewhere that Phablets are going to outsell Tablets in 2014....we shall see. Big is definitely growing in demand...and one day here shortly, I see myself not even conceiving of going backwards in size, lol.

    Well anyways...that was my first impression of my Lumia 1520 (White), and WP8. Now I can't even fathom of going back to iOS....and Android, I'll never use again (way too unsecure). WP8 is just perfect. The smooth-as-hell animations, the speediness, xbox music, full office, live tiles, and so much more. Plus...WP8.1 is going to rock even harder...lol, and that's a few months away.

    The one final hurdle is....I just have to get used to is the size while I am out walking. At some point soon, I have to take my five mile walk and see if it's manageable or unmanageable to walk with in my hand.
    Last edited by tonybessette; 01-10-2014 at 02:11 PM.
    01-10-2014 01:37 PM
  17. EpidemikE1's Avatar
    The 1520 does not have a xenon flash, just to clarify it's dual LED.
    tonybessette likes this.
    01-10-2014 02:06 PM
  18. tonybessette's Avatar
    The 1520 does not have a xenon flash, just to clarify it's dual LED.
    Just edited....thanks :)
    01-10-2014 02:12 PM
  19. manicottiK's Avatar
    I was surprised at how significant the camera bump is and with my desired setup (Skinomi full body skin) I would have to place the phone face down to protect the camera.
    Fortunately, that's not the case! Because of the camera bulge, the phone has a slight upward tilt when placed back-down on a hard surface like a table. Further, the glass protecting the camera is very slight recessed within the camera bulge. This means that the glass is not in contact with the table.

    Of course, things would be different if the phone were placed down on a carpet or other soft surface (your pocket, maybe?). I don't know the extent to which one of the hard cases would help you there.
    EpidemikE1 likes this.
    01-10-2014 06:08 PM
  20. EpidemikE1's Avatar
    Fortunately, that's not the case! Because of the camera bulge, the phone has a slight upward tilt when placed back-down on a hard surface like a table. Further, the glass protecting the camera is very slight recessed within the camera bulge. This means that the glass is not in contact with the table.

    Of course, things would be different if the phone were placed down on a carpet or other soft surface (your pocket, maybe?). I don't know the extent to which one of the hard cases would help you there.
    LOL, the slight recess isnt enough to give me confidence in placing a naked 1520 camera side down. Until I figure out something, the sticky plastic is staying on. The Incipio cases look like they cushion the camera fairly well. The Nillkin case looks to provide some cushioning/raising of the camera if placed face down: Nillkin Ultra Slim Hard Skin For lumia 1520 Case

    I have placed it in my pant pocket but I have see some folks mention the pressure in a pant leg pocket can cause cracks in the display. So Ive been a bit wary to do so frequently.
    01-10-2014 10:45 PM
  21. GrayW0lf's Avatar
    I have placed it in my pant pocket but I have see some folks mention the pressure in a pant leg pocket can cause cracks in the display. So Ive been a bit wary to do so frequently.
    I keep my 1520 in my (front) jeans pocket a lot of the time. I have the phone in a Belkin Folio case, which does add width and weight to the phone. Works fine for me most of the time. :)
    EpidemikE1 likes this.
    01-10-2014 10:57 PM
  22. diazlaz's Avatar
    Same here. I have the Nokia case , no issues and find I can keep t on my jeans pocket no problem. Once in a while, when driving it becomes uncomfortable, but overall it been fine.

    Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk
    01-18-2014 04:24 PM
  23. mantonas's Avatar
    I had the same reaction...it is huge. I walk five miles a day in my development/neighborhood....and I'm not sure if it'll be comfortable in my hand or pocket to listen to music with. I live in FLA, so I wear running shorts and a tank...so for the past month or so (since I started walking five miles) I've had the iPhone 5 as my phone and walking MP3 player. I always held it in my hand, not too big, not too small. I have yet to go for this walk (talking a small break, or rather until I get my case/bumper)...but I think I need to soon to figure out if the 1520 is going to be too cumbersome, or be just fine.

    I have gotten fairly used to the size at home, and going to the store and whatnot. I've had the 1520 and WP8 for 8 days and I am blown away at the OS and hardware. The screen is stupid-epic in its size and clarity/color. I surf the net on it more than I do on my laptop...and the YouTube vids, and side loaded movies are beyond brilliant on this screen. The body/feel of this phone is simply wonderful as well. It's uni-body is super sleek.....the buttons are flush so it's not easy to accidentally push a button in your pocket or purse...yet not difficult to find them, and give them the proper push (you'll master this as time goes on). The battery is the best I've ever seen on any phone I've owned since my Hero, EVO, iPhone 4S, Galaxy Nexus, and my iPhone 5.

    Sure it may not have all the best apps first, albeit we do have exclusive apps ourselves. However, we currently possess all of the TOP Major apps out there. If there is a new major top app out, one that we don't have...like say, Fitbit (I have the Fitbit "Flex").....you can be sure it's in the news somewhere, or that it'll be coming out very soon. There are only TWO apps that WP doesn't have and I'm kinda "jealous" over. Those two are "BBM" and "Navy Federal Credit Union". BBM I can TOTOALLY live without, and NFCU I can use their website just fine.

    Double Tap is just lovely...lol. It's a nice feature that makes the phone feel ever MORE top of the line than it already is. 20 Megapixel "PureView" camera with Image Stabilization, and Pro Camera controls!!!?? YES PLEASE! The photos are ridiculously beautiful. I am a photographer and I use Photoshop CS6 Extended...and with this camera, lens, and flash....I can do, and have done some serious work. There isn't one thing I don't like about this phone. Are there things that could make it better, like a notification center, and a better personal assistant? ...yes, of course. However, this phone is perfect as is...and this phone will get better than it is now...with each update.

    I've read somewhere that Phablets are going to outsell Tablets in 2014....we shall see. Big is definitely growing in demand...and one day here shortly, I see myself not even conceiving of going backwards in size, lol.

    Well anyways...that was my first impression of my Lumia 1520 (White), and WP8. Now I can't even fathom of going back to iOS....and Android, I'll never use again (way too unsecure). WP8 is just perfect. The smooth-as-hell animations, the speediness, xbox music, full office, live tiles, and so much more. Plus...WP8.1 is going to rock even harder...lol, and that's a few months away.

    The one final hurdle is....I just have to get used to is the size while I am out walking. At some point soon, I have to take my five mile walk and see if it's manageable or unmanageable to walk with in my hand.
    You know what? After reading your review just made me feel less guilty for swapping a Note 3 for the Lumia 1520 lol. I am looking forward to put my hands on it hopefully, by next Wednesday :) Ta
    01-19-2014 06:16 PM
  24. CrackFachry's Avatar
    Well I am a longtime Samsung fan, been on with their phones for years and just jumped from the Galaxy series to finally try Nokia again.

    I always looked at Nokia for the camera, it was the one to beat and yet the specs for the phones were always a year or more behind, so after seeing this one with upto date specs, great build and screen...and that talked about camera, I thought great, its all I want.

    Build wise its great, bit slippy without a case but thinner than I thought, and yes its big......but it should be (laugh at reviews that say its big....."really ya think so")

    Screen is great, nice to view and all looks great while using it.

    Battery for me is good to great, I can sit and mess about with it and not feel I must charge it or it will not last the next day.

    Layout is different (been with android) in a good way and bad way, its more, well adult, some nice touches but also some "wtf where are my toggles, why do I have to go into the settings for this and that" true you can get some apps to help this but there is much missing that makes life easy that has yet to make its way to a windows phone.

    Apps are lacking in a big way, yes it will grow but they need help, I mean some are 10/10 but very rare, even ones make by microsoft are poor, if they cannot get it right how will other people, they are needing apps to help get around flash files and other things.

    Games are way behind, this could be down to money to be made on a smaller platform and the fact that this is the first phone that can really run the big games full on, so maybe this will bring about bigger newer games.

    Music is good, though the player that comes with it has no jump to part of track option, also is it just me? but if I change the volume of a song that also changes the volume of the phone itself, this means if I play a song low I will change the ringer to low....and miss a call, with android you can set and lock sound for each thing ringer/music/alerts/alarms/messages.

    Ok my two issues with the phone.
    1st Screen picks up a swipe as a tap, this I hope is a simple software fix.
    2nd, well I missed camera out of review as it was a big hope for me and as it is a big let down, this is because the photos in daylight are good to great, better than my SGS4, and the same in low light if you use the flash, without the flash my SGS4 beats the 1520 no problem (1520 dark and full of noise)
    Now comes the worst part, you see in daylight its close between the SGS4, I find the sound is better with the 1520, and its steady, the focus is also faster....but the detail is not as good as the SGS4, and this gets even worse in low light, my SGS4 walks all over the 1520, this is because as soon as the 1520 has to do low light videos the screen fills with noise, the picture is just plain bad (looks like a phone from a few year back) this again I hope is a software issue and can be optimised SOON!!!!

    The phone is great, yes I love it, no its not perfect (fix the issues and it will be close, dont fix the issues and I am off back to Samsung lol) it lacks some of the ease of use, and yes you will have to find some apps to work around some limitations, but if you want a powerful phone/amazing screen for media/great battery life/promising camera once fixed/expandable memory, then this is the phone for you.
    Mostly agreed with your review.
    I upgraded my 920 to 1520 and the night/lowlight photos is a bit disappointment. I too have the S4 and in auto mode the S4 beats the 1520 photos in non-flash low light photos about 75% times.
    I love the hardware but the Pureview 20Mpx is something that I was looking forward till i found the low light photos are not that great. Then again, if you play with manual setting, the low light photos can be really good! This prove that software update can solve the lowlight photo quality especially in auto mode.

    Some additional review:

    - Design/built. This is probably the most beautiful phone I've ever purchased. The Matte Yellow Lumia 1520 stands out in the crowd; with it bright color and outstanding build quality. Yes it's big. But it's thin enough that I can put it in my jeans and working pants.

    - Gaming. I'm a casual gamer. The games provided by the Store are enough for me. It could use some popular games tho (eg. Candy Crush). I love playing RPG games and I do think the Lumia 1520 is just perfect for gaming! IMO it has the perfect size to be a portable gaming device. That Snapdragon S800 certainly great in running graphic intense games. I recently played Dungeon Hunter 4 and the Lumia 1520 was miles ahead the 920. I experienced lag and stutter playing it with the 920 while it was super smooth on 1520. Not to mention that beutiful 1080p 6" Display!

    Some bugs:
    - Swiping up the display (after double tapping) to go to home screen sometimes doesn't work well.
    - Weak wifi signal. Sometimes the Lumia 1520 couldn't reach the wifi signal in my house. A reboot will solve the problem. I suspect this one to be software related bug.
    01-22-2014 09:01 PM
  25. mantonas's Avatar
    Just to say that I am a proud owner of a white L 1520 since yesterday and I couldn't be happier with. After using it for some time, the only thing I really noticed is that the WiFi signal is indeed a bit weak. Other than that and to be honest, did not find any major bugs as yet.

    Sent from my RM-937_apac_hong_kong_222 using Tapatalk
    01-23-2014 03:52 AM
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