11-14-2013 03:50 PM
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  1. JD_Morecraft's Avatar
    Ok so I went into the AT&T store today and put a memory card into a 1520 to see what the camera can do. I have seen posts where people are asking for different photos to compare phones. So here you go.

    920
    https://skydrive.live.com/embed?cid=...Bm0AVDM39njwkg

    1520
    https://skydrive.live.com/embed?cid=...Ow-yMdFZlAxbw0
    Attached Thumbnails 920.jpg  
    11-11-2013 11:20 PM
  2. PB_H's Avatar
    It's very hard to compare two different size files 5376 x 3024 vs 3552 x 2000 when you "view original"

    Photos were taken close to the same view but more window light with the 920 and that effects exposure and grain.

    This is a much better comparative view.


    920crop.jpg 1520-1-acrop.jpg
    Last edited by PB_H; 11-12-2013 at 03:19 AM.
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    11-11-2013 11:48 PM
  3. quachhanthanh's Avatar
    I can see that 1520 's photo is sharper, more clear and less noise than 920 's photo.
    But i think u should take 1520 with shutter speed 100, so the photo will be more detail and bright.
    What ISO did u take in that photos?
    11-12-2013 12:04 AM
  4. PB_H's Avatar
    920
    1/120 sec ~ f/2 ~ ISO 160
    1520
    1/60 sec ~ f/ 2.4 ~ ISO 125

    Both:
    auto exposure
    Exposure bias: 0 step
    Metering mode: Average
    Flash mode: No flash, auto

    Crop and photo info: Olympus Viewer 3 software
    Last edited by PB_H; 11-12-2013 at 12:38 AM.
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    11-12-2013 12:24 AM
  5. Moiz Mian's Avatar
    Even though the 1520 is less grainy, you still can't read any of those pamphlets any clearer than in the 920. Seems like the level of detail is the same for both
    11-12-2013 04:02 AM
  6. PB_H's Avatar
    Even though the 1520 is less grainy, you still can't read any of those pamphlets any clearer than in the 920. Seems like the level of detail is the same for both
    But the 1520 file would benefit from noise reduction, sharpness and blur and distortion correction software where the 920 wouldn't,
    it would just look more muddled, and if you added saturation to the 920 file to bring it up the density of the 1520 it will be a very soft blur,
    with even less detail.
    11-12-2013 05:24 AM
  7. alllies's Avatar
    With 1020 you can right?
    Even though the 1520 is less grainy, you still can't read any of those pamphlets any clearer than in the 920. Seems like the level of detail is the same for both
    11-12-2013 05:49 AM
  8. PB_H's Avatar
    Look at the full photo, that crop is a small part of that and look how far away it was taken, I doubt you'd be able to read that using any phone's camera considering how small the sensors are...using zoom on a 1020 you might but not one taken like that.
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    11-12-2013 07:37 AM
  9. michail71's Avatar
    I did a quick in store test between the 1520 and the galaxy mega. The zoom detail appeared to be significantly better on the 1520.

    I was kind of disappointed in the mega after handling the 1520.
    11-12-2013 07:48 AM
  10. kevm14's Avatar
    I see slightly more detail and a lot less noise in the 1520. I sized both the same. 920 on the left, 1520 on the right. Would have been nice for them to be taken at the same ISO and shutter speed.

    11-12-2013 11:30 AM
  11. Moiz Mian's Avatar
    I see slightly more detail and a lot less noise in the 1520. I sized both the same. 920 on the left, 1520 on the right. Would have been nice for them to be taken at the same ISO and shutter speed.

    https://iglnma.dm2302.livefilestore....520.png?psid=1
    I think the 1520 was taken with a lower iso, which may account for a little bit of the noise, but the difference is almost night and day, so it's clear that the larger sensor is working, on the other hand, Nokia might have reverted to more noise reduction in black, hence the lack of extra detail in the pictures.
    11-12-2013 01:48 PM
  12. Moiz Mian's Avatar
    Look at the full photo, that crop is a small part of that and look how far away it was taken, I doubt you'd be able to read that using any phone's camera considering how small the sensors are...using zoom on a 1020 you might but not one taken like that.
    Maybe not in this scene, but I've played with the 1020, and i'm sure you'd be able to see the text on that pamphlet.
    11-12-2013 01:50 PM
  13. vlad0's Avatar
    The 1520 is better.
    11-12-2013 10:07 PM
  14. JD_Morecraft's Avatar
    I only had time to do default settings. The guy at the store started trying to get me to quit when he saw what I was doing.

    My Android friends are pissy because all they can get is 13mp.
    11-12-2013 10:41 PM
  15. PB_H's Avatar
    Maybe not in this scene, but I've played with the 1020, and i'm sure you'd be able to see the text on that pamphlet.
    Take a picture next time you have a chance don't use zoom, set to 16:9 and take a picture at least 15 yds away from a pamphlet and lets see.
    11-13-2013 01:15 AM
  16. PB_H's Avatar
    I think the 1520 was taken with a lower iso, which may account for a little bit of the noise, but the difference is almost night and day, so it's clear that the larger sensor is working, on the other hand, Nokia might have reverted to more noise reduction in black, hence the lack of extra detail in the pictures.
    You think ? the file says it was, I posted the specs.

    920
    1/120 sec ~ f/2 ~ ISO 160
    1520
    1/60 sec ~ f/ 2.4 ~ ISO 125
    Part of the issue with the clarity of the 1520 is the shutter speed, @ 1/60 sec even with the best OIS, enlarged enough you see moment
    and the second set of cropped pictures shows movement with the 1520. Look at the dps on the right box, that is camera movement.
    11-13-2013 01:23 AM
  17. rubenwidjaja's Avatar
    wah nice
    1520 better for me
    it's so clear and less grain
    11-13-2013 05:15 AM
  18. michail71's Avatar
    I only had time to do default settings. The guy at the store started trying to get me to quit when he saw what I was doing.
    Makes no sense if you're there to evaluate a product for purchase. Unless they have a corporate policy about no photography. Perhaps a Microsoft store would be more accommodating.
    11-13-2013 09:03 AM
  19. PB_H's Avatar
    Makes no sense if you're there to evaluate a product for purchase. Unless they have a corporate policy about no photography. Perhaps a Microsoft store would be more accommodating.
    Then you go do it, don't look a gift horse in the mouth unless you're willing to provide a better horse...
    11-13-2013 03:13 PM
  20. michail71's Avatar
    I actually think the noise reduction looks a tad too high on the 1520 shots. It shows in the hair and clothing as they look too smooth.

    Still, an amazing camera overall. Do these cameras have RAW formats available?
    11-13-2013 03:31 PM
  21. PB_H's Avatar
    I actually think the noise reduction looks a tad too high on the 1520 shots. It shows in the hair and clothing as they look too smooth.

    Still, an amazing camera overall. Do these cameras have RAW formats available?

    There is very slight CAMERA movement, it's so evident, and every thing is softened.
    1/60 sec will cause some movement unless you're very careful or set to timer and
    since he was apparently taking a picture on the sly...
    No RAW -yet.
    11-13-2013 03:44 PM
  22. kevm14's Avatar
    1520 has the same or greater detail in spite of the higher ISO and camera shake. That bodes well, I think.
    11-13-2013 05:04 PM
  23. PB_H's Avatar
    Not higher ISO,
    1520 was 125
    920 was 160
    11-13-2013 05:10 PM
  24. kevm14's Avatar
    Whoops. Ok, but the noise difference is far greater than just the ISO difference.
    11-13-2013 08:37 PM
  25. rubenwidjaja's Avatar
    is 920 running amber or black update?
    I notice more noise and grainy too after amber update

    1520 photos really good, I love it :)
    11-14-2013 08:27 AM
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