1. Apoorvdec's Avatar
    I am amazed that nokia has skipped puremotion display in its flagship device ....
    12-02-2013 02:47 AM
  2. rakesh1995's Avatar
    ??? Any proof it doesn't have it?

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    12-02-2013 03:00 AM
  3. hipporama's Avatar
    The 1520 has 60 Hz refresh rate, which is essentially what PureMotion is all about.
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    12-02-2013 08:45 AM
  4. berty6294's Avatar
    High brightness, 60hz, supersensitive touch. It's basically PureMotion like hipporama said.
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    12-02-2013 08:51 AM
  5. manicottiK's Avatar
    Any proof it doesn't have it?
    OP might be inferring that it doesn't because the Nokia specifications page for the 1520 doesn't mention it while the page for the 920 does. Of course, the same page doesn't mention a pixel density for the 1520, but I'm fairly sure that it has one.

    Here's how Nokia describes the "Display Technology" for the 920:
    ClearBlack
    Corning Gorilla Glass 2
    HD IPS
    High brightness mode
    LCD transmissive
    Lumia Color profile
    Luminance 600 NITS
    Nokia Glance screen
    Pixel Density 332 PPI
    Puremotion HD+
    RGB Stripe

    Here's how Nokia describes the "Display Technology" for the 1520:
    Corning Gorilla Glass 2
    High brightness mode
    IPS, ClearBlack
    Lumia Color profile
    Luminance 600 NITS
    Nokia Glance screen
    12-02-2013 08:57 AM
  6. Apoorvdec's Avatar
    There os no mention of it in the specifications on the nokia site like its in lumia 920
    12-02-2013 09:02 AM
  7. Apoorvdec's Avatar
    In the specs of 920 puremotion hd+ as well as refresh rate 60hz is mentioned,but in the specs of 1520 only refresh rate 60hz is mentioned
    12-02-2013 09:10 AM
  8. hipporama's Avatar
    In the specs of 920 puremotion hd+ as well as refresh rate 60hz is mentioned,but in the specs of 1520 only refresh rate 60hz is mentioned
    Let me Bing that for you:
    PureMotion HD+ - Nokia

    PureMotion HD+ is essentially:
    1) Smoother motion for on screen content (60 Hz refresh rate)
    2) Brighter display in sunlight
    3) High pixel density
    4) Supersensitive touch

    With the 1520, you get:
    1) 60 Hz refresh rate
    2) Assertive Display (Assertive Display | Apical)
    3) Higher pixel density than the 920 (368 ppi against 920's 332), not to mention a FULL HD display
    4) Supersentive touch

    In conclusion, you can ***** and moan about Nokia not going with Puremotion display, but the fact is that the 1520 has one of the best screens on any phone right now.
    12-02-2013 09:19 AM
  9. Apoorvdec's Avatar
    Hy hipporama ... Guys at nokia are very smart .... So if according to u lumia 1520 has everythings dats on puremotion display then why are they not mentioning it !!????
    12-02-2013 09:25 AM
  10. hipporama's Avatar
    It's like talking to a wall man!
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    12-02-2013 09:28 AM
  11. berty6294's Avatar
    Hy hipporama ... Guys at nokia are very smart .... So if according to u lumia 1520 has everythings dats on puremotion display then why are they not mentioning it !!????
    Omg who cares. It's like how Apple calls everything iSight, iCloud, iThis, iThat, and Samsung with sThing and sDongle, its a fricken name. At the end of the day, it is a screen. You know the specs, Nokia could just be dropping the bull**** and telling you straight up what they are offering.
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    12-02-2013 09:30 AM
  12. Apoorvdec's Avatar
    Yes man u are right .... (berty6294) ... But that name sounds really cool ..
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    12-02-2013 09:38 AM
  13. berty6294's Avatar
    Yes man u are right .... (berty6294) ... But that name sounds really cool ..
    That I can agree with lol
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    12-02-2013 09:52 AM
  14. elyod's Avatar
    The way I understood it was that puremotion was developed by Nokia, while the assertive display technology was developed elsewhere which is why it is not puremotion.
    12-02-2013 10:14 AM
  15. rakesh1995's Avatar
    Nokia phone are stronger enough to be called as diamond.. Do we call them diamonds??? No

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    12-02-2013 10:49 AM
  16. gsquared's Avatar
    Hy hipporama ... Guys at nokia are very smart .... So if according to u lumia 1520 has everythings dats on puremotion display then why are they not mentioning it !!????
    Who cares. It's simply an advertising term anyway.
    12-02-2013 11:33 AM
  17. Sledgehamma's Avatar
    Let me Bing that for you:
    PureMotion HD+ - Nokia

    PureMotion HD+ is essentially:
    1) Smoother motion for on screen content (60 Hz refresh rate)
    2) Brighter display in sunlight
    3) High pixel density
    4) Supersensitive touch

    With the 1520, you get:
    1) 60 Hz refresh rate
    2) Assertive Display (Assertive Display | Apical)
    3) Higher pixel density than the 920 (368 ppi against 920's 332), not to mention a FULL HD display
    4) Supersentive touch

    In conclusion, you can ***** and moan about Nokia not going with Puremotion display, but the fact is that the 1520 has one of the best screens on any phone right now.
    Sorry for bumping this old thread.

    But I have to *** around. Since the Lumia 930 does not have a puremotion display, either but essentially the same points you pointed out it should be as smooth as the display of the 920, right?
    Although it has a 60hz refresh rate it is slower than the 920. That's because 60hz does not necessarily mean that it is a fast display! Feel free to bing that.
    The link you posted states that puremotion means: "Pixels light up twice as fast on the Lumia 920 display than on competing smartphones."
    And it's really about the reaction time of the pixels. Since the pixel are reacting slower it is no puremotion display.

    This is a little offtopic but I am very disappointed with the 930's display, because it obviously is not a puremotion device since the screen is blurry while you moving images.
    07-11-2014 10:57 AM
  18. hprvez's Avatar
    The lumia 920 puremotion best feature is the 7ms latency for sure, i don't know if it's grey-grey or something else. Don't expect anything faster than 3x that latency from any amoled panel... They are so slow
    07-11-2014 11:15 PM
  19. irvin792's Avatar
    Puremotion promised a constant 60 frames per second , I dunno if that is the same thing as refresh rate.

    I'm starting to feel that Nokia put alot of love into the 920s display. Does not feel that the 1520s is as fast.
    11-05-2014 11:43 PM
  20. D_Stark's Avatar
    Lumia 920 has an Ips display, so that's why pure motion can be added.
    On amoled displays this cannot be added because ips and amoled's are functioning very different.
    Basically ips it's an lcd backlitted display. Altough the refresh rate will be let's say 60hz, and the screen will refresh on this rate, the light will stay continuosly on in the back, so only the display itself will refresh.
    On the amoled, because it's not backlitted, and every pixel it's basically a led ( a very small one), not only the screen will refresh but the pixels will turn on and off independently 60 times per second.
    Here is the difference, it's easier on lcd to do that, because o pixel will change only it's colour, and the light will stay on. Even on black, the light will stay on behind the lcd. On the amoled, the pixel will completely turn off.. so try to imagine if you have a light bulb that can light in different colours, and will change his colours 60 times per second, how it will look when the colours will change without turning the bulb off and on?? It will be smoother, right?!
    Now try to imagine, how it will look if you will turn off and on the bulb, everytime you want to change the colour...not so smooth... That's why 930 doesn't have Pure Motion..
    But trust me, on a phone...it's not a big downside.. On my tv, I have 800hz refresh rate..this is very cool..on a mobile device, not as cool as those deep blacks that amoled provides.....
    But in the end, both screens are good...it's a matter of taste...
    I am dissapointed by the fact that 930 does not have glance screen(Altough it's possible- tested by me) because the screen is capable of that(ips screen are not)...
    04-23-2015 04:47 PM
  21. ScrubbyXD's Avatar
    Derp!

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    04-23-2015 07:14 PM
  22. colinkiama's Avatar
    The Lumia 1020 has a puremotion HD+ display too and its an AMOLED. I'm pretty sure its just an advertising term exaggerating how smooth the images move in 60 Hz
    Edit: Most Lumias have these features now http://lumiaconversations.microsoft....puremotion-hd/
    04-23-2015 07:24 PM
  23. D_Stark's Avatar
    In that link it says about HD ips..
    But you're right, 1020 it has amoled and pure motion. Even so, imagine a 1.8 L engine, with turbo, and a 4 L engine with turbo. In terms of branding and engineering, both are turbo(like amoled and lcd pure motion), but in terms of perfomance, they are so different.
    In 1020, actually it's an improoved refresh rate, with some software tweaks, but it cannot equal and lcd(hardware speaking) - every pixel is always on, on amoled they are switching on and off, but both are called pure motion.
    Coming back to reality, pure motion is only needed when watching movies, or playing demanding games. I think that no one will play seriously demanding games on their phones, and even if you play this kind of games 60hz are not enough, and when you watch movies, you have to know that you are watching on your mobile device so no cinema quality or HD tv quality expectations.
    You can observe the lack of pure motion when switching photos, but for this to happen you have to swithch them very fast, so in reality you want to see photos, not to switch them very fast. Like benchmarks, even so the phone is not with the latest hardware, you will not benchmark it everyday, just because it can, or cannot do something.
    On my tv, sometims when watching movies, I switch from 800hz refresh rate to 100 or 200 because altough the motion is more fluid on 800 and you can see more details, the movie loses their cinematic feeling, and it looks like something i just filmed with my camera.
    The most evident lack of pure motion is when reading black text on white. If you are scrooling very fast you can see a ghosting effect, because the pixels are turning on white very fast and others turning off, but I doubt that someone can read 2 pages per second to scroll that fast and be affected.
    Maybe you will find that 0,0001% situation when pure motion is needed but, even so, the display on Lumia 930 will perform like a champ and will not let you down in that situation...
    Before switching to win phone, i remember buying the first HTC one. I was very thrilled about that infrared sensor, and nfc...but guess what: Did I ever used them?! NEVER!
    So it's not about what the hardware can perform, it's about what you really need.. Would you feel better just to have an extra display option, on a very good display, that won't basically do any difference?
    Now they are adding QHd screens, but those screens are draining battery faster, in sunlight they are loosing readability, and for what? The human eye won't see the difference.
    In conclusion, I am very satisfied with the screen, and I think that people are not satisfied by the Idea that something older has something considerred a plus, and with something newer they don't have it, altough they will never use it, need it or see any difference...
    Last edited by D_Stark; 04-24-2015 at 02:23 AM.
    04-24-2015 01:39 AM
  24. colinkiama's Avatar
    In that link it says about HD ips..
    But you're right, 1020 it has amoled and pure motion. Even so, imagine a 1.8 L engine, with turbo, and a 4 L engine with turbo. In terms of branding and engineering, both are turbo(like amoled and lcd pure motion), but in terms of perfomance, they are so different.
    In 1020, actually it's an improoved refresh rate, with some software tweaks, but it cannot equal and lcd(hardware speaking) - every pixel is always on, on amoled they are switching on and off, but both are called pure motion.
    Coming back to reality, pure motion is only needed when watching movies, or playing demanding games. I think that no one will play seriously demanding games on their phones, and even if you play this kind of games 60hz are not enough, and when you watch movies, you have to know that you are watching on your mobile device so no cinema quality or HD tv quality expectations.
    You can observe the lack of pure motion when switching photos, but for this to happen you have to swithch them very fast, so in reality you want to see photos, not to switch them very fast. Like benchmarks, even so the phone is not with the latest hardware, you will not benchmark it everyday, just because it can, or cannot do something.
    On my tv, sometims when watching movies, I switch from 800hz refresh rate to 100 or 200 because altough the motion is more fluid on 800 and you can see more details, the movie loses their cinematic feeling, and it looks like something i just filmed with my camera.
    The most evident lack of pure motion is when reading black text on white. If you are scrooling very fast you can see a ghosting effect, because the pixels are turning on white very fast and others turning off, but I doubt that someone can read 2 pages per second to scroll that fast and be affected.
    Maybe you will find that 0,0001% situation when pure motion is needed but, even so, the display on Lumia 930 will perform like a champ and will not let you down in that situation...
    Before switching to win phone, i remember buying the first HTC one. I was very thrilled about that infrared sensor, and nfc...but guess what: Did I ever used them?! NEVER!
    So it's not about what the hardware can perform, it's about what you really need.. Would you feel better just to have an extra display option, on a very good display, that won't basically do any difference?
    Now they are adding QHd screens, but those screens are draining battery faster, in sunlight they are loosing readability, and for what? The human eye won't see the difference.
    In conclusion, I am very satisfied with the screen, and I think that people are not satisfied by the Idea that something older has something considerred a plus, and with something newer they don't have it, altough they will never use it, need it or see any difference...
    The truth is that they are running out of features to show off. If they don't advance with their screen resolutions then there wouldn't be a reason to by a flagship anymore since even cheap phones can have 1080p screens. They can't stop. And while QHD kills the battery. So did 1080p and 720p when they came out but look now, phones like the z3 have long battery life with the resolutions because the displays eventually become more efficient.
    04-24-2015 03:26 AM
  25. D_Stark's Avatar
    That's true..but the best thing that sells it's the image and the interface.
    They could invest more in the store, in the interface(look at apple - not such a powerfull device, not even with full HD), because I am mad that I cannot attach files to emails(only pictures).. they could add a finger print scanner and a 64bits processor...it's a lot of room for improvements. They could invest in the battery life researching...etc...
    And yes, it's true, that they advance from 720 to 1080, but this happened because the difference was so obvious, you can see pixels on 720p display, but 1080 not anymore, so..why go that direction? And also a cheap 1080p display cannot be compared with a more expensive one.
    04-24-2015 03:43 AM

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