View Poll Results: AT&T 1520 or International 1520?

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  • Get the international one. HSPA+ is fast enough.

    21 36.21%
  • Get the AT&T version. LTE speeds are worth the trade-off.

    23 39.66%
  • Undecided

    7 12.07%
  • Other - see reply.

    7 12.07%
12-23-2013 09:39 AM
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  1. 5150 Joker's Avatar
    Sorry I meant the At&t 32GB version. I swear I saw someone post in a another thread that it won't come with the SD slot but can't find the thread.

    It might have been on the At&t forum but thought it was here.
    If you visit Nokia's website and find the 1520, it has the exact features for both 16 GB and 32 GB of the AT&T version so whoever said that was wrong.

    http://www.nokia.com/us-en/phones/ph...pecifications/
    12-04-2013 10:18 PM
  2. kbilly70's Avatar
    If you visit Nokia's website and find the 1520, it has the exact features for both 16 GB and 32 GB of the AT&T version so whoever said that was wrong.

    http://www.nokia.com/us-en/phones/ph...pecifications/
    Thanks for the link. I was worried after seeing that post that At&t might change the 32GB version too.
    12-05-2013 06:54 AM
  3. alllies's Avatar
    It's the 929 that will not feature the mSDCard support/slot..?
    Thanks for the link. I was worried after seeing that post that At&t might change the 32GB version too.
    12-05-2013 07:59 AM
  4. 5150 Joker's Avatar
    So I tested my gf's iphone 5 on straight talk (AT&T) and this is what she gets on HSPA+: Speedtest.net by Ookla - My Results You guys think that's fast enough or is LTE really that much better? I mean I can stream movies/music OTA just fine with HSPA+ so I'm not sure what LTE will really add? It's still a phone after all and not a full on computer where I need to download files that are gigabytes in size. The only benefit I can think of for LTE would be for video chat (e.g. skype) but the person on the other end also needs a fast LTE device.

    Unless someone can sell me on the idea of LTE, I'm heavily leaning in favor of grabbing an international yellow 1520 that isn't neutered.
    Last edited by 5150 Joker; 12-05-2013 at 08:19 AM.
    12-05-2013 08:01 AM
  5. kbilly70's Avatar
    It's the 929 that will not feature the mSDCard support/slot..?
    That's true. I had been reading some thread somewhere where a poster stated their At&t business rep told them that the 32GB version on At&t wouldn't have the SD card. I can't remember where the thread was now but the link seems to disprove it.
    12-05-2013 08:13 AM
  6. Phrozty's Avatar
    Let's see. I use LTE every day and it's a huge improvement over 4g. I also have a 64gb SD card which isn't even close to full.

    I'm going to use wireless charging on a phone that already takes forever to charge on a charger with an adapter .... never.

    And I didn't mind buying my phone at $7 ($100 web price - $100 trade in credit + $7 tax) as opposed to a huge, off contract cost. Pretty clear decision for me.
    12-05-2013 02:02 PM
  7. Blacklac's Avatar
    Do you know the LTE speeds in your area? I live in a smaller town and we've had HSPA+ for a couple years. Just got LTE about a year ago. Honestly, unless you live in a major town, I bet your LTE isn't too impressive. I'm lucky to get above 8Mbps in my area. I see 5Mbps alot. Sure, thats faster than 2-3Mbps I saw on "HSPA+", but its not major. Honestly, I never felt held back by HSPA+. I rarely did major downloads and 2-3Mbps can stream HD videos pretty decent. I really feel like anything over 3Mbps is just fine for typical phone usage (browsing, lite streaming, App loading, etc...) without running into issues.

    Just something to consider.
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    12-05-2013 02:42 PM
  8. Dalek Sec's Avatar
    If you use at&t's network then the at&t version is the way to go. LTE speeds and the much cheaper price are worth it. With the lower price you can buy a few 64gb sd cards and a case with qi (whenever the heck one comes out)
    12-05-2013 03:09 PM
  9. awesomeindeed's Avatar
    No LTE on the international version is a dealbreaker.
    12-05-2013 03:40 PM
  10. 5150 Joker's Avatar
    For those of you who are advocates of AT&Ts LTE, tell me how it is more useful vs 6 Mbps HSPA+ that I already get? For example, if I want to stream Netflix, it works great at high quality. Music from Spotify comes in very crisp and clear. If I need to download a huge game, I'll use my home's wireless connection for that, especially given AT&T and Straight Talk's lousy bandwidth caps. So with say a 5GB cap with LTE speed, what can you really download that would benefit from this extra speed? Like I said, the only thing I can think of is video conferencing via Skype or using Teamviewer but I rarely do either of those.

    I think having superior hardware is more important, in this case qi wireless charging + 32 gb of fast internal storage. An sdcard, no matter how big, is a poor substitute since it cannot load games or apps and is slower. While price may be justified for those who can't buy one outright, in the long run you end up paying more. With a basic data + voice plan, it costs $100/month x 24 months = $2400. Now compared to Straight Talk where I pay $50/mo x 24 months = $1200. That's 50% cheaper for voice/data usage alone. Now to factor in hardware cost for the average person:

    On contract: $2400 + $100 hardware cost = $2500 over 2 years
    Off contract: $1200 + $715 hardware cost = $1915 over 2 years

    That's still a saving of nearly $600. Hard to argue against those numbers.
    12-05-2013 03:52 PM
  11. JPDVM2014's Avatar
    I don't know about everyone else, but I notice the difference between LTE and HSPA+ when launching apps that require data to download before opening. Apps that may have taken a couple seconds to launch on HSPA+ are near instantaneous on LTE. (i.e. Weather Apps, Stock Apps, etc) It isn't a lot by any means, but it just makes it easier to get in and out of apps faster. If you have never tried LTE, maybe get the at&t 1520 to test and see if the LTE is worth it to you. If not, just return it within the 14 days.
    12-05-2013 04:01 PM
  12. awesomeindeed's Avatar
    AT&T HSPA+ is around 2-4mbps in my area. With LTE I get speeds of over 30mbps. Huge difference when downloading music or buffering large HQ videos. If a data cap is your limitation, then I guess you'll have to decide which one is worth it to you. For me it was a no-brainer. I'll pop in a microSD and enjoy my LTE.
    12-05-2013 04:18 PM
  13. 5150 Joker's Avatar
    With AT&T a data cap is a problem for every subscriber, even grandfathered ones with supposed "unlimited" plans. Even they are throttled after a few GB so with LTE all you do is just reach your cap or throttle faster. With 5-6 mbps HSPA+ I'm able to stream 720p-1080p videos with very little buffering. During heavy congestion it may have a longer buffer where LTE would be superior I suppose. But strictly speaking for my case where HSPA+ speeds are pretty good, would it really be worth it?

    The real wildcard is AT&T's 32GB of the 1520, if they gave us a concrete release date I'd patiently wait on that and give up qi wireless. But the fact that they just say, "near future" doesn't really mean much. That could be tomorrow or 6 months from now.
    12-05-2013 04:23 PM
  14. PB_H's Avatar
    Where does it state that their internal policy is 6 months? Their website clearly states what their requirements are and they are legally obligated to follow that.
    By the time it ever gets to court ( if ever) if you try to sue them you'll have met the 6 month "requirement"
    "legally" ? they probably have a disclaimer allowing changes without notice.
    But please keep us up to date with your ordeal.
    12-05-2013 04:32 PM
  15. kbilly70's Avatar
    With AT&T a data cap is a problem for every subscriber, even grandfathered ones with supposed "unlimited" plans. Even they are throttled after a few GB so with LTE all you do is just reach your cap or throttle faster. With 5-6 mbps HSPA+ I'm able to stream 720p-1080p videos with very little buffering. During heavy congestion it may have a longer buffer where LTE would be superior I suppose. But strictly speaking for my case where HSPA+ speeds are pretty good, would it really be worth it?

    The real wildcard is AT&T's 32GB of the 1520, if they gave us a concrete release date I'd patiently wait on that and give up qi wireless. But the fact that they just say, "near future" doesn't really mean much. That could be tomorrow or 6 months from now.
    I get 3-6MB down on HSPA+. We have LTE in my area but the best speeds I've seen are 6-9MB down. I've used LTE in other cities and gotten 30-40MB down. I look at it like you do, LTE just eats through data usage faster. I have grandfathered unlimited and have been throttled twice after exceeding 2GB. HSPA+ speeds are fine for my usage so I would recommend going with the International version.

    I bought the AT&T version to see if I could get by with the lesser storage and after four days with it I had used up the storage. So I returned it and will wait for the 32GB version or may break down and get the international version.
    12-05-2013 04:38 PM
  16. naplesbill's Avatar
    A couple of points regarding recent posts. I have a family shared data plan and the per device monthly cost is $50. I also bought the device outright for $540. Then subtract the $200 I saved on my 2520 by buying a bundle. That means I pay less on ATT over 2 years than the quote above for Straight Talk.

    I don't see how the MicroSD has created any impact on performance. Apps still run on internal anyway.

    Also, to the person above who said they used up all the memory in 4 days, why not just add a MicroSD for media storage?

    Sent from my RM-940_nam_att_200 using Tapatalk
    12-05-2013 06:04 PM
  17. kbilly70's Avatar
    Also, to the person above who said they used up all the memory in 4 days, why not just add a MicroSD for media storage?

    Sent from my RM-940_nam_att_200 using Tapatalk
    I was using an SD card for media. My storage was filled with apps, games, and maps. Apparently you can force map storage to the SD card but even then it didn't leave much left.
    12-05-2013 06:08 PM
  18. DroidDaddy's Avatar
    I picked up the AT&T version from the MS store with the promotional $50 gift card for 549. I couldn't resist the cheaper price since the international versions were at least $200 more expensive. I just ordered a Qi wireless charging receiver coil and saw a tear down video

    that will hopefully allow me to enable Qi charging on my AT&T phone. Unfortunately, I won't have the charging coil for a few weeks as it's shipping from overseas. If that doesn't work, hopefully there will be replacement hardware back covers and maybe we'll be able to swap an international back cover on to our AT&T phones.
    12-05-2013 06:26 PM
  19. 5150 Joker's Avatar
    The 1520 on Amazon is $596 dollars or thereabout after tax and shipping if you have Prime. On eBay there are RM-937 phone's that are selling for as low as $684 shipped so that's less than a $100 price difference between the two. Kinda makes the AT&T version much less compelling. Has anyone inquired about the 32GB AT&T version? I asked a rep yesterday and he had no idea when it would be out but his best guess was "maybe sometime during the holidays".
    12-05-2013 07:00 PM
  20. Indivestor's Avatar
    The provided link is for any here who want to know about the Lumia 1520 Model variants and the Networks and Connectivity detail...

    Nokia Lumia 1520 (RM-937, RM-938, RM-939) - Reviews and Full Specifications

    Additionally, from Engadget.com as of mid-November 2013...

    At the time of this writing, the Lumia 1520 has only been announced on one US carrier, but it's widely available in other parts of the world. There are three different model numbers, each offering compatibility with different networks. Each variant has quad-band GSM/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900) and at least four HSPA+ bands (850/900/1900/2100), but AT&T's model (the RM-938) comes with a fifth band for AWS, technically making it compatible with T-Mobile's HSPA+ network. Only two of the models come with LTE: the RM-937, which features compatibility with five bands (800/900/1800/2100/2600), and the RM-938, which offers support for a different set of five bands (2, 4, 5, 7, 17). Those mainly serve AT&T and T-Mobile in the US. (Update: We didn't clearly state another pair of differences on the AT&T version versus the global units. The AT&T option only comes with 16GB internal storage and wireless charging requires an optional cover, whereas the global models are 32GB and have the capability built-in.)

    My question is... What would Rogers add to their version of the Lumia 1520 [ if ] that the Expansys.ca Lumia 1520 would be missing?
    12-05-2013 08:47 PM
  21. wvanellis's Avatar
    12-05-2013 10:15 PM
  22. daikku's Avatar
    No LTE on the international version is a dealbreaker.
    How come is this? Global version RM-937 comes with LTE
    12-05-2013 10:17 PM
  23. T Moore's Avatar
    Stop with the international version. There is not an international version, there is a global version, more correctly the RM-937. It has no US LTE bands.
    The RM-938 is the US version and the RM-940 is the AT&T version.
    The RM-938 has all US LTE bands, T-Mobile and AT&T.

    Device Details -- Nokia Lumia 1520
    12-05-2013 10:46 PM
  24. Joe Acerbic's Avatar
    More confusion if possible: that page lists 937, 938 and 939 but no 940.
    12-06-2013 03:25 PM
  25. 5150 Joker's Avatar
    Just a quick update for the thread, I ended up purchasing a Yellow RM-937 variant off eBay for $684 shipped. The seller warranties the product for 12 months (60 days parts and labor) and opens it to check for defects prior to shipping. I bought my Galaxy Note from them before too so its a very solid seller. In the end, I realized LTE is completely useless for me with its tiny GB caps, so even if I can download stuff faster, I'd still be constrained severely by caps. Given that the international (RM-937) is superior in every way compared to AT&T's version and the cost difference was only $84 between getting the AT&T one on Amazon vs eBay, it made my decision that much easier. In fact I got $13.68 eBay bucks as a result so the total cost was $670! That makes the price difference a mere $70 between the gimped AT&T version and the RM-937.

    Edit: I just realized the AT&T version doesn't come with headphones either so add another $10 for that to the cost saved: http://www.amazon.com/Original-Nokia...pUvbUpU2250921 so now the price difference is only $60!

    Link to eBay store: Nokia Lumia 1520 32GB Phone RM 937 Yellow Factory Unlocked Brand New Extra Gifts | eBay
    Last edited by 5150 Joker; 12-07-2013 at 04:20 AM.
    12-07-2013 03:51 AM
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