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  1. kevm14's Avatar
    If the S800 is capable of down-sampling all 16MP to a 1080p frame, but perhaps it uses a lot of battery to do so, I would like to see a "high quality" setting with a warning that it will consume a lot of battery power while doing so. Whenever engineering makes a trade that some users might object to, it would be nice to have the option to change the setting (even if it's not the default). Of course I don't universally hold this belief but in the case of something like this, I definitely do.

    Given the focus on AUDIO quality while shooting video, I think the current situation seems unacceptable (insofar as the user cannot select a higher quality output setting). It's not like Nokia can really get away with "well this sensor/phone was made for shooting stills." Even if that's true from a technical standpoint (rather than marketing).

    Still, I think it could be said that while the video performance may be below average, the photo performance is above average. The audio quality while shooting video is also above average.
    12-29-2013 10:30 AM
  2. Mark Reed2's Avatar
    The low light video side is shock, I just cannot get my head round how this was given the GO for the new flagship phone.

    Its not like one of those vs videos where you watch and can see some good and bad points but both are almost on par image wise, this is WTF level, the moment you turn it on in low light its right there, the image is worse than phones from a few years ago.

    The only thing I can think of is that it was built in a open top factory in a desert someplace, where workers only test stuff in the day.
    12-29-2013 11:10 AM
  3. kevm14's Avatar
    Then here's a challenge: what phones can shoot stills at 16MP or greater? Of those, how is their video performance?
    12-29-2013 11:45 AM
  4. Mark Reed2's Avatar
    Well go to 10mins in....enjoy the amazing 1520 lol

    12-29-2013 11:52 AM
  5. kevm14's Avatar
    Yup, Z1 definitely better. Even in day time.
    12-29-2013 05:44 PM
  6. michail71's Avatar
    Wow, a bit of macroblocking there too on the shot with trees.
    12-29-2013 07:56 PM
  7. vlad0's Avatar
    If the S800 is capable of down-sampling all 16MP to a 1080p frame, but perhaps it uses a lot of battery to do so, I would like to see a "high quality" setting with a warning that it will consume a lot of battery power while doing so. Whenever engineering makes a trade that some users might object to, it would be nice to have the option to change the setting (even if it's not the default). Of course I don't universally hold this belief but in the case of something like this, I definitely do.

    Given the focus on AUDIO quality while shooting video, I think the current situation seems unacceptable (insofar as the user cannot select a higher quality output setting). It's not like Nokia can really get away with "well this sensor/phone was made for shooting stills." Even if that's true from a technical standpoint (rather than marketing).

    Still, I think it could be said that while the video performance may be below average, the photo performance is above average. The audio quality while shooting video is also above average.
    They did the video oversampling with the 808 a while ago and the battery drain isn't all that bad and that one has to oversample 41 million pixels. I haven't tested how long it can record 1080p for but I am pretty sure it can do at least 90 mins on a 1400mah battery
    12-30-2013 03:02 AM
  8. michail71's Avatar
    If that's true the 1520 hardware should be able to handle it even better.
    12-30-2013 10:19 AM
  9. colinkiama's Avatar
    I know this may sound stupid but have you tried manually changing the focus?
    12-30-2013 10:24 AM
  10. Mark Reed2's Avatar
    Yup, Z1 definitely better. Even in day time.
    If they could get it to the video level of the Z1 I would be happy, but as it is the 1520 is not worth using for videos once you begin to lose daylight or shoot indoors with low light.
    12-30-2013 10:50 AM
  11. kevm14's Avatar
    If they could get it to the video level of the Z1 I would be happy, but as it is the 1520 is not worth using for videos once you begin to lose daylight or shoot indoors with low light.
    I can tell you that mere parity with the Z1 is all that should be reasonably expected. It has a slightly larger sensor and a wider aperture.
    12-30-2013 12:01 PM
  12. Mark Reed2's Avatar
    Just seen this, trying to find out more if the low light is better (he has a low light but no before and after so hard to tell) and I guess owners in States can give more info as us international owners dont have this update.


    12-30-2013 12:18 PM
  13. michail71's Avatar
    It's hard to tell from that. It seems to me the lighting conditions could be a bit more uniform on the after video. Both are shot somewhat into the direction of the sun which is making it hard to get a good exposure in either the shadows or highlights.
    12-30-2013 02:01 PM
  14. Mark Reed2's Avatar
    Yeah, but he does seem happy with it.

    Here is low light he did but its hard to tell as no before and after...really need AT&T owners with all updates to run some low light video tests.


    12-30-2013 02:10 PM
  15. michail71's Avatar
    That looks good for something shot in near total darkness. I think a better test would be dim indoor lighting, which rarely looks good with any video camera.
    12-30-2013 03:59 PM
  16. kevm14's Avatar
    I don't see much noise on that. I wonder if the Z1 would have been brighter and with just as little noise. At least it seems like an improvement!
    12-30-2013 05:02 PM
  17. michail71's Avatar
    I prefer a natural dark exposure that I can choose to overexpose instead of cameras that default to night vision mode.
    12-30-2013 05:09 PM
  18. Kashan Osama's Avatar
    Misread instructions. Phone now in anus... Lol. I hope you were joking.
    LOLO lolololo that really gave me a good heartful of laughter
    12-30-2013 05:30 PM
  19. Kissanviikset's Avatar
    Noise seems to reduced but is video now darker?
    12-30-2013 07:30 PM
  20. Mark Reed2's Avatar
    Unsure what if anything has changed, he shows the change with the daylight videos but not the low light/and night, dont know if the update fixed/helped any when compare to the 1520 before the update.

    Other thing is what update? Nokia have sent out system app/camera updates a while back in UK, has there been newer updates state side (AT&T) that have made changes that we are yet to see?
    12-31-2013 05:02 AM
  21. Mark Reed2's Avatar
    Low light indoor, but again with no compare video its hard to tell if I am wanting to see change or there is change

    12-31-2013 05:04 AM
  22. michail71's Avatar
    Low light indoor, but again with no compare video its hard to tell if I am wanting to see change or there is change

    It looks like typical low light video too me with a little less noise than I would expect. It's a bit soft which is typical when light is low but it could also be from higher NR.
    12-31-2013 09:21 AM
  23. iRS73's Avatar
    I'll be noisy tonight! Happy New Year!!! =)
    12-31-2013 09:57 AM
  24. greedypnguin's Avatar
    Happy Halloween
    12-31-2013 10:18 AM
  25. michail71's Avatar
    I'd have to guess that the update fixed something with low light video. But I never shot anything before the update.

    However, I am picky and I thought the videos looked rather impressive for being indoors and from a phone. There was very little noise given typical ambient lighting. If you fire up the light it gets even better.
    01-03-2014 02:39 PM
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