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  1. jssmarathon's Avatar
    It's a new year so...................................

    DOES ANYONE HAVE A CLUE / A TIP / A LITTLE PIECE OF HOPE ON THE NOKIA LUMIA 1520 RM-938 VARIANT YET?

    REALLY want the Qi charging and I don't think I could pull of the physical mod listed in other threads.

    Almost bought a 937 on a recent trip to Dubai, but two things I have read me away:

    It has been reported elsewhere that the 937 will not work at 4G LTE speeds up on AT&T, and your Internet sharing function will not work.

    Has anyone been able to confirm those two points?

    TIA!
    01-02-2014 04:14 PM
  2. manicottiK's Avatar
    The 938 remains the unicorn phone -- we all know what we're looking for, but no one has yet seen one in the wild.

    It has been reported elsewhere that the 937 will not work at 4G LTE speeds up on AT&T, and your Internet sharing function will not work.Has anyone been able to confirm those two points?
    Short answer: the first is certainly correct; I believe that the second one is also, but am not certain.

    Long answer #1: depending on where you are, the first point (inability to get onto AT&T's LTE network) may not be much of a problem. In some areas -- so far it seems like dense urban spots -- AT&T is capping LTE throughput such that it's no faster than HSPA, which the RM-937 can use. If you typically are in such areas, getting on to AT&T's LTE network might yield little real-world benefit. However, if you are in an area that isn't speed capped, the LTE network is dramatically faster than the HSPA network (on the order of 7-9x in my quick tests).

    Long answer #2: If you travel internationally, the AT&T model, while it supports tethering to AT&T's network, I think that it blocks tethering to other networks. I brought a SIM-unlocked 920 to New Zealand, bough two different SIMs (TelecomNZ and Vodafone) and could not tether with either. (I could use them in the phone for data services, but could not activate tethering.) I don't know if the problem is a full blockage or if I had the tethering service deactivated before I traveled.

    Can anyone confirm that an RM-940 with the AT&T tethering feature has able to tether outside of the U.S.? If so, has anyone done that with a non-AT&T SIM?
    01-02-2014 04:27 PM
  3. jbowyer1's Avatar
    If you travel internationally, the AT&T model, while it supports tethering to AT&T's network, I think that it blocks tethering to other networks. I brought a SIM-unlocked 920 to New Zealand, bough two different SIMs (TelecomNZ and Vodafone) and could not tether with either.
    My experience was the opposite of this. I had an AT&T 920 on a grandfathered unlimited data plan, which meant tethering was blocked, bringing up an error message saying to contact AT&T customer service when I tried to turn it on; I sim-unlocked the phone (via AT&T's customer service) and moved to Australia, put in a Telstra pre-paid sim, and tethering worked instantly, which I tried right off the bat out of curiosity since I had never been able to use tethering on my AT&T phones in the U.S., due to the data plan restriction. I didn't do anything special to unlock it; I did download and install the Nokia Access Point app to be able to change the APNs easily, per a forum thread recommendation, though I'm not sure if this affects tethering blocking in any way.
    01-02-2014 06:02 PM
  4. 5150 Joker's Avatar
    The rm 937 will certainly tether if you use it with AT&T. But on straight talk it won't work because it pops up an AT&T error message.

    Sent from my RM-937_apac_hong_kong_222 using Tapatalk
    01-02-2014 06:07 PM
  5. lcjarvis's Avatar
    I can't tether on mine either I think its because of the imei's I'm thinking about reactivating my 1020 and get a sim cutter hopefully att won't know the difference
    01-02-2014 07:28 PM
  6. manicottiK's Avatar
    My experience was the opposite of this.
    Well, now I'm curious. I've just written to our rep to find out the dates for which the tethering service was active for my old 920. I'll really annoy me if I find out that the problem with the TelecomNZ SIM was that I had the AT&T service deactivated. (I didn't buy/test a Telstra SIM because the place where we stayed in Australia had Wi-Fi.)
    01-03-2014 05:55 AM
  7. jssmarathon's Avatar
    The 938 remains the unicorn phone -- we all know what we're looking for, but no one has yet seen one in the wild.

    Short answer: the first is certainly correct; I believe that the second one is also, but am not certain.

    Long answer #1: depending on where you are, the first point (inability to get onto AT&T's LTE network) may not be much of a problem. In some areas -- so far it seems like dense urban spots -- AT&T is capping LTE throughput such that it's no faster than HSPA, which the RM-937 can use. If you typically are in such areas, getting on to AT&T's LTE network might yield little real-world benefit. However, if you are in an area that isn't speed capped, the LTE network is dramatically faster than the HSPA network (on the order of 7-9x in my quick tests).

    Long answer #2: If you travel internationally, the AT&T model, while it supports tethering to AT&T's network, I think that it blocks tethering to other networks. I brought a SIM-unlocked 920 to New Zealand, bough two different SIMs (TelecomNZ and Vodafone) and could not tether with either. (I could use them in the phone for data services, but could not activate tethering.) I don't know if the problem is a full blockage or if I had the tethering service deactivated before I traveled.

    Can anyone confirm that an RM-940 with the AT&T tethering feature has able to tether outside of the U.S.? If so, has anyone done that with a non-AT&T SIM?
    So being that I am in Boston, I should not worry about LTE. BUT the tethering issue would kill the deal as I oten need to used it as a modem for my laptop. I do pay for ATT's internet sharing so whet is the consensus? Will internet sharing work with 937 here in boston? I would just get a new sim from ATT. I assume they would be happy to give it to me?
    01-03-2014 08:20 AM
  8. manicottiK's Avatar
    So being that I am in Boston, I should not worry about LTE. BUT the tethering issue would kill the deal as I oten need to used it as a modem for my laptop. I do pay for ATT's internet sharing so whet is the consensus? Will internet sharing work with 937 here in boston? I would just get a new sim from ATT. I assume they would be happy to give it to me?
    First, don't just take my word for it that LTE will be limited. If you have an LTE phone now or have a friend with one, get a speed test app and see how performance is where you normally spend your time. HPSA should get you about 6 Mpbs; LTE should get you substantially more (I saw 35 Mbps in an area about half-way between Philadelphia and a small town about 8 miles outside of the city limits).

    Second, I can't yet confirm AT&T tethering with the RM-937. I will test this, but can't until I leave home (snowbound today!). My guess is that I will test on Monday or Tuesday (I need my AT&T rep at work, so a weekend test is out.) In post #4, 5150 Joker said that tethering works, but I don't know if he just expects that or has actually tested it.

    So, if you can wait, I can tell you for sure soon. But, with the active community here, you'll probably get a confirmation from someone else before then!
    01-03-2014 09:45 AM
  9. jssmarathon's Avatar
    First, don't just take my word for it that LTE will be limited. If you have an LTE phone now or have a friend with one, get a speed test app and see how performance is where you normally spend your time. HPSA should get you about 6 Mpbs; LTE should get you substantially more (I saw 35 Mbps in an area about half-way between Philadelphia and a small town about 8 miles outside of the city limits).

    Second, I can't yet confirm AT&T tethering with the RM-937. I will test this, but can't until I leave home (snowbound today!). My guess is that I will test on Monday or Tuesday (I need my AT&T rep at work, so a weekend test is out.) In post #4, 5150 Joker said that tethering works, but I don't know if he just expects that or has actually tested it.

    So, if you can wait, I can tell you for sure soon. But, with the active community here, you'll probably get a confirmation from someone else before then!
    I Got 11.34 Down and 1.34 up on lte on my 920 with 3 bars.

    Thank seems slow.. bet HSPA is close to that don't you think?

    Appreciate the test on tethering when you can!!!
    01-03-2014 12:46 PM
  10. drbanks's Avatar
    I routinely benchmark data rates on AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon around the Boston area, and 11 down sounds about right for their HSPA+.

    I consistently see the highest data rates (HSPA+ and LTE) on T-Mobile, but that opens that huge can of worms about AWS compatibility.
    01-03-2014 12:52 PM
  11. laserphotos's Avatar
    This e-bay vendor claims they are selling the RM-938! Can anyone confirm this?

    Express Shipping 1 Year Warranty Nokia Lumia 1520 Black Unlocked | eBay
    Last edited by laserphotos; 01-23-2014 at 10:16 AM.
    01-23-2014 09:59 AM
  12. drbanks's Avatar
    I looked at the specs, and the combination of bands he said it supported points to no such phone.

    Unless he can post a screen shot showing it displaying the right model number, I sure wouldn't believe it.
    01-24-2014 04:01 PM
  13. palandri's Avatar
    There's a rumor going around the net that the RM-938 is for T-MobileUSA and Wind Canada. I have no idea if it's credible.
    01-24-2014 04:15 PM
  14. laserphotos's Avatar
    almost worth the chance that it is true--ebay will cover it if it is not the correct model as described--how would he pull up the model (variant) # on the screen of the phone?
    01-24-2014 04:25 PM
  15. laserphotos's Avatar
    should not be a rumor as the bandwidths match T-MobileUSA and (don't know about Wind Canada)
    01-24-2014 04:27 PM
  16. palandri's Avatar
    almost worth the chance that it is true--ebay will cover it if it is not the correct model as described--how would he pull up the model (variant) # on the screen of the phone?
    I would definitely question the seller about it. Where got it, How he got it since it hasn't been officially announced yet...etc...
    01-24-2014 05:31 PM
  17. laserphotos's Avatar
    he claims to have several available - - 5 each in three different colors . . .
    01-24-2014 06:10 PM
  18. kevm14's Avatar
    NO RETURNS are Accepted for being unsatisfied by the product itself.
    Yeah, like if it's NOT ACTUALLY an RM-938??
    01-24-2014 06:11 PM
  19. laserphotos's Avatar
    I spoke with ebay and they said they will cover it in that case . . . also if it is a fake or knock off.
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    01-24-2014 06:24 PM
  20. palandri's Avatar
    he claims to have several available - - 5 each in three different colors . . .
    Did he confirm it's a T-MobileUSA and/or Wind Mobile Canada model? Did he tell you how he obtained them since they haven't been officially announced yet?
    01-24-2014 06:25 PM
  21. S_C_B's Avatar
    This e-bay vendor claims they are selling the RM-938! Can anyone confirm this?

    Express Shipping 1 Year Warranty Nokia Lumia 1520 Black Unlocked | eBay

    100% feedback is giving me a good feeling. I'm gonna watch this auction!

    Here the item # of a red 1520 rm-938 from the same seller. 281244995509
    palandri likes this.
    01-24-2014 10:46 PM
  22. Dusk22's Avatar
    Just bit the bullet and ordered the white 1520 RM938 he had on sale. We'll see what I get.
    palandri and kabel_mk like this.
    01-25-2014 02:10 PM
  23. jssmarathon's Avatar
    Can only hope!
    01-26-2014 08:38 AM
  24. mattcolq's Avatar
    Just bit the bullet and ordered the white 1520 RM938 he had on sale. We'll see what I get.
    I messaged the seller a few times to see if it really was the rm-938. Here's his reply

    mattcolq,

    Hi,

    Apparently my supplier made a mistake when he told me that this is the RM938. It is the RM937 and I have revised the description and the supported frequencies.
    Sorry to get your hopes up.

    Kind regards,


    - sdr93
    palandri likes this.
    01-27-2014 07:43 AM
  25. Dusk22's Avatar
    I left a message. I plan on disputing this with eBay since it was changed from the original description when I bought it. Oh well, now I guess i"'all have to wait for an official T-Mobile variant.
    palandri likes this.
    01-27-2014 06:25 PM
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