11-24-2014 11:14 PM
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  1. NokiNoki's Avatar
    today i'm getting a white 1520,
    so i wanted to know if the first time charge is important? or to use it normally to 0% a few times?
    03-08-2014 07:15 PM
  2. gauthamrgramalingam's Avatar
    today i'm getting a white 1520,
    so i wanted to know if the first time charge is important? or to use it normally to 0% a few times?
    Every mobile deserves a first time charge for at least 4 hrs...
    Thats not mandatory but if you do it,,,your battery life will be good
    03-08-2014 08:53 PM
  3. cariocap's Avatar
    Every mobile deserves a first time charge for at least 4 hrs...
    Thats not mandatory but if you do it,,,your battery life will be good
    The first charge occurs in the factory. The battery comes partially charged and you don't need to charge for an specific time (pages 10 and 11 of the manual).
    03-08-2014 10:02 PM
  4. Emix1988's Avatar
    Charge it when and how you wish.
    03-09-2014 06:36 AM
  5. Loco5150's Avatar
    I always do as many full cycles as possible on new batteries. 5 times or more is good.
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    03-09-2014 07:01 AM
  6. NokiNoki's Avatar
    no problem. thanks
    03-09-2014 08:23 AM
  7. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    I always do as many full cycles as possible on new batteries. 5 times or more is good.
    This is obsolete advice and has been for a few years now.
    03-09-2014 03:28 PM
  8. Checki's Avatar
    Why? I bought my battery from mugen power, specialists in batteries. In their manual they say, charge it completely the first 3 times and leave it on charge ( so best overnight). I mean why should they write that...and they JUST build batteries...

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    03-09-2014 03:34 PM
  9. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    Why? I bought my battery from mugen power, specialists in batteries. In their manual they say, charge it completely the first 3 times and leave it on charge ( so best overnight). I mean why should they write that...and they JUST build batteries...

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    Because the advice they offer there is just them stating the same thing they've always stated and that advice was solid advice for earlier generations of battery technology.

    With LiPo batteries that advice won't hurt anything, but it's no longer necessary so it's obsolete data.

    Then again I only used to work in the top tiers of support for Xbox, Windows Phone and Zune...so what would I know about these devices right?


    When you throw snark my way, you'll get it thrown back at you harder.
    03-09-2014 03:50 PM
  10. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    Creating a separate post (in case the earlier ones get deleted later on) to explain a bit.

    The process that I'm referring to as obsolete is referred to in the industry as priming. These days any reputable manufacturer already completes the priming process before shipping devices with batteries in them, or even just the batteries themselves.

    The priming cycle is no longer required to be completed by the consumer, especially on LiPo and LiOn batteries. Even the older NiCd and NiMH battery types are normally shipped with the priming process already completed these days, but not always.
    03-09-2014 04:15 PM
  11. Pete's Avatar
    What he said ^^

    Charge as and when desired, no special considerations are needed.
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    03-10-2014 10:40 AM
  12. NokiNoki's Avatar
    my phone charges 6 hours.. survives 12 hours.. lol -_-
    03-12-2014 07:24 AM
  13. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    That's odd for a 1520. A full charge should take about 1/3 that time to happen
    03-13-2014 07:24 AM
  14. NokiNoki's Avatar
    That's odd for a 1520. A full charge should take about 1/3 that time to happen
    my phone survives now a day and half
    but 6 hours charge? maybe i need to change my charge..
    03-13-2014 08:06 AM
  15. Pete's Avatar
    My 1520 charges for 3 hours on original charger and i get just over 3 days of good use from it and its only been my first charge cycle what i am doing if fully charging then completely discharging till it hits 0 and repeat the process 5 times its all good.
    Is there any chance that you can repeat that with the inclusion of punctuation marks please? I don't really understand what you're saying there.
    03-13-2014 08:39 AM
  16. Checki's Avatar
    Charge it 5 times from 0%-100%

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    03-13-2014 04:48 PM
  17. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    my phone survives now a day and half
    but 6 hours charge? maybe i need to change my charge..
    You're using the OEM charger from Nokia for the 1520?. I ask because with LiPo batteries it is important to use the supplied charger.

    It enables the rapid charge for the phone. My phone charges at a rate of about 1% per minute. I'm usually done charging in 2 hours or less, and that's when I've fully drained the battery to test recharge stuff. :)
    03-16-2014 05:57 PM
  18. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    My 1520 charges for 3 hours on original charger and i get just over 3 days of good use from it and its only been my first charge cycle what i am doing if fully charging then completely discharging till it hits 0 and repeat the process 5 times its all good.
    Then it's not your first charge cycle. It would be your fifth or sixth depending upon how one interprets your grammar.
    03-16-2014 05:59 PM
  19. astraith's Avatar
    That's odd for a 1520. A full charge should take about 1/3 that time to happen
    My phone took literally from midnight to 0900 to charge completely. It's now 2045-ish and at 11% left.

    Is that normal?
    03-16-2014 07:43 PM
  20. Markham Ranja's Avatar
    My 1520 charges for 3 hours on original charger and i get just over 3 days of good use from it and its only been my first charge cycle what i am doing if fully charging then completely discharging till it hits 0 and repeat the process 5 times its all good.
    You're doing the absolute WORST thing for lithium batteries. That draining to 0 does not help the battery health at all. Li-Po cells are best when kept between 40-80% of charge capacity.
    03-17-2014 12:29 AM
  21. DaT Franchise's Avatar
    Lipos are not like that, they have zero memory, if you let a lipo go to 3.0 volts a cell its done you might as well through it out, a phone doesn't go 100% dead, its cut off voltage is probably 3.2-3.4 volts a cell. Storage for lipos is between 3.6-3.8 volts. It will absolutely not hurt to go from 0-100% or anything in-between.

    I race electric rc cars and that is all we use is lipos.
    Last edited by DaT Franchise; 03-17-2014 at 01:15 AM.
    03-17-2014 12:57 AM
  22. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    My phone took literally from midnight to 0900 to charge completely. It's now 2045-ish and at 11% left.

    Is that normal?
    No. That sounds like one of 3 scenarios.

    1. An app is using up tons of resources, even in the background. This can persist even after soft resets if it is set to re-enable itself.

    2. The charger and cable set, and/or battery used are not OEM and it is causing either damage or calibration issues.

    3. The battery, charger, or both are faulty.

    I would say option 1 is by far the most likely. :)
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    03-17-2014 05:51 AM
  23. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    Wrong post
    03-17-2014 06:07 AM
  24. astraith's Avatar
    No. That sounds like one of 3 scenarios.

    1. An app is using up tons of resources, even in the background. This can persist even after soft resets if it is set to re-enable itself.

    2. The charger and cable set, and/or battery used are not OEM and it is causing either damage or calibration issues.

    3. The battery, charger, or both are faulty.

    I would say option 1 is by far the most likely. :)
    It seems to be better now. It charged fairly quickly last night. Could have been an app I guess.
    03-17-2014 09:28 AM
  25. DaT Franchise's Avatar
    This is why we need real battery stats Microsoft!! Or an actual task manager so we can see what's running and what isn't.
    Last edited by DaT Franchise; 03-17-2014 at 02:01 PM.
    03-17-2014 01:45 PM
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