1. NSX38's Avatar
    It's coming down to crunch time before I make the jump over to AT&T for the 1520. I have been looking through CL to check prices of used ones, and am keeping my mind open if I'm going to go that route or just buy at the store through the next program (Total cost/payments 12 months to upgrade through the program would be $29.25x12mo=$351). I found one that is pretty cheap but before they respond to me I want to know if there are any indicators that would tip me off that a phone may look new in packaging, but is indeed a refurbished unit??? Any way I can tell......

    Thx
    03-22-2014 10:39 AM
  2. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    The refurb boxes generally look different from the regular retail boxes, and if they try to pass off a retail box with a refurb phone you can verify in the About section of settings.

    The IMEI of the device is printed on a sticker on the box. If it is a retail phone the IMEI will match on the retail box and on the phone as shown in the About area in Settings.
    xandros9 likes this.
    03-22-2014 10:46 AM
  3. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    My personal take? Just do Next through AT&T. Doing so removes doubt from the process on stolen vs non-stolen, refurb vs non-refurb, fights on whom is the responsible party, etc.
    03-22-2014 10:48 AM
  4. DaT Franchise's Avatar
    If your buying used or off CL or eBay ask for the IMEI and call AT&T and have them run it to see if its good. As far as a referb your rolling the dice, its a referb for a reason unless its one hell of a deal I'd buy new.
    03-22-2014 11:01 AM
  5. oditius's Avatar
    next program (Total cost/payments 12 months to upgrade through the program would be $29.25x12mo=$351). Thx
    I think you may be not understanding the Next12 program very well. It is "Due Monthly for 20 months $29.25" ($585). After 12 months you can trade it in on a New phone for the same $29.25 a month, but your 1520 would have to be in perfect condition, no scratches.. You will be responsible for the whole $585 if you leave early, or damage your phone. You will also need to pay taxes up front too.
    03-22-2014 11:54 AM
  6. Jas00555's Avatar
    Well, a refurb won't have that new phone smell, but other than that, no, you shouldn't be able to tell the difference. Especially if you have a case.
    MrRichardF likes this.
    03-22-2014 12:16 PM
  7. DaT Franchise's Avatar
    I think you may be not understanding the Next12 program very well. It is "Due Monthly for 20 months $29.25" ($585). After 12 months you can trade it in on a New phone for the same $29.25 a month, but your 1520 would have to be in perfect condition, no scratches.. You will be responsible for the whole $585 if you leave early, or damage your phone. You will also need to pay taxes up front too.
    no worse then a 2 year if you wanna dump it in a year. Bottom line if you gotta have the newest phone your gonna pay.
    03-22-2014 12:17 PM
  8. oditius's Avatar
    I know, I signed up for it, but they screwed up my order so badly, the the manager at the AT&T store got them to send me a free 32gb version. Love this phone. #Winphan
    03-22-2014 12:32 PM
  9. DaT Franchise's Avatar
    Yea at&t is a joke but they will hook you up, they gave me the 20gig share plan for free till they can figure out the fantom data issues im having. Hell yea, love my 1520!!
    03-22-2014 01:09 PM
  10. oditius's Avatar
    I switched from the 550 minutes 3GB data with $20 a month unlimited text to the 10GB family share plans, saved a couple dollars, but now instead of 3GB I have 10GB, instead of paying for text and 550 minutes, I get unlimited. And I only have 3 phones, and only one smartphone. So I get more, and at the same (or close to price) But I have read stories of the fathom data issues. I keep track of mine, so I don't see it, but it must be happening on some.
    03-22-2014 01:55 PM
  11. NSX38's Avatar
    The refurb boxes generally look different from the regular retail boxes, and if they try to pass off a retail box with a refurb phone you can verify in the About section of settings.

    The IMEI of the device is printed on a sticker on the box. If it is a retail phone the IMEI will match on the retail box and on the phone as shown in the About area in Settings.
    Good to know about the IMEI on the box and the phone
    03-22-2014 02:07 PM
  12. NSX38's Avatar
    My personal take? Just do Next through AT&T. Doing so removes doubt from the process on stolen vs non-stolen, refurb vs non-refurb, fights on whom is the responsible party, etc.
    I'm leaning towards the Next program, but still keeping my options open for now at least.
    03-22-2014 02:08 PM
  13. NSX38's Avatar
    I think you may be not understanding the Next12 program very well. It is "Due Monthly for 20 months $29.25" ($585). After 12 months you can trade it in on a New phone for the same $29.25 a month, but your 1520 would have to be in perfect condition, no scratches.. You will be responsible for the whole $585 if you leave early, or damage your phone. You will also need to pay taxes up front too.
    I realize it's 20 months of payments of $29.25=$585, but if I upgrade at the 12 month period then the total payments I would have made would be $351. Or I guess you are just leasing the phone and that's what your total output is for 12 months and then you give it back. I'm guessing if that's the route I take, a successor to the 1520 might be out by this time next year (Apr "15")? If so it would be a perfect time to upgrade to the successor to the 1520.
    03-22-2014 02:11 PM
  14. NSX38's Avatar
    The guy just e-mailed me back and he sold the phone already, he was selling it for $240!! I knew it wouldn't last at that price whether or not it was refurbished or new?? Here is the e-mail response I got below:

    Hello a guy purchased this from me, but I can tell you where I got it from.
    I got 3 of these from quibauctions.com and I resold them for some extra money.
    The trick is to watch for bidding to slow down and then put in a bid. That's what I do and I win most of the time.

    All the best
    Ashley


    Anybody here of this auction site before???
    03-22-2014 02:17 PM
  15. oditius's Avatar
    Yes, but it doesn't work like eBay, if someone bids in the last few seconds, the time extends... So it can go on for hours and bring the price up and up. The place boast "Brand New Only" So he can't resell it there...
    03-22-2014 02:26 PM
  16. NSX38's Avatar
    Sounds like he is getting these for around $200 if he is still able to make a profit on them?
    03-22-2014 02:28 PM
  17. oditius's Avatar
    Since it cost 60 cents just to bid... The cost might go higher than he may be stating. Also he gets free bids for referrals. ;)
    03-22-2014 02:37 PM
  18. DaT Franchise's Avatar
    I'd be real suspicious about a brand new phone or factory referb going for $250 or less, sorry that's just me and I'd hate to get a week down the road when my phone stopped working because the IMIE was burned, or find out its some knock off clone.
    03-22-2014 04:00 PM
  19. NSX38's Avatar
    Interesting, I'll have to check out that site.
    03-22-2014 04:01 PM
  20. scagle7's Avatar
    I had to do a warranty exchange through AT&T and got 2 bad 1520! I ended up going the Microsoft and buying a brand new one! Now I am happy

    Sent from my RM-940_nam_att_200 using Tapatalk
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    03-23-2014 08:39 AM
  21. Citizen X's Avatar
    I found one that is pretty cheap but before they respond to me I want to know if there are any indicators that would tip me off that a phone may look new in packaging, but is indeed a refurbished unit??? Any way I can tell......

    Thx
    I would think some refurbs come in different boxes. I can't say for sure though.

    You may want to make sure the phones IMEI matches the IMEI on the box.

    Honestly though if you get a legit refurb it's not the end of the world. Any phone returned for any reason becomes a refurb. If someone decides they would rather have an Andriod or iphone and returns their windows phone after 5 days it's a refurb. Is that phone less than brand new?

    The only thing I would say is people are easily selling these phones for $400+ on ebay. An allegedly new phone for less than $250 should set your alarm bells off.
    03-23-2014 06:44 PM
  22. Will6371's Avatar
    Over here in the UK refurbished phones don't have a box or rather just a generic box and charger, nothing else.
    03-24-2014 05:12 AM

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