04-24-2014 01:37 PM
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  1. sashlon's Avatar
    Hi 1520 owners :)

    I have a 920 and I'm thinking about getting a new phone soon. I'm very tempted by the 1520. I have a couple of questions though.

    How widespread is this Touchscreen issue I've seen people talking about?

    I live in Australia. Does the international version have Qi wireless charging?

    Thanks in advance for any help ;)
    03-29-2014 06:27 PM
  2. elvandar's Avatar
    I've had the 1520 since the day it launched and have very rarely encountered the touchscreen issue (ATT 16gb version). Maybe once a week or so if that and it definitely does not impede or hamper my use of the phone, apps, or anything. I've seen the discolored lock screen bug happen more than the touchscreen bug if anything.

    About the charging, I'm not 100% sure but I believe the international unlocked version has Qi instead of PMA
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    03-29-2014 06:32 PM
  3. Kebero's Avatar
    Since the last update for the RM-937, I have only had touch screen issues with double tap to wake enabled.

    The international version is 32GB with Qi charging built in.
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    03-29-2014 06:33 PM
  4. undulose's Avatar
    I don't know how widespread it is, but I never experienced any touch screen issue with mine.

    It has Qi wireless charging.

    Sent from my Nokia Lumia 1520 (RM-937 Malaysia) using Tapatalk
    03-30-2014 08:30 AM
  5. Hasoumi's Avatar
    Screen sensitivity not a big deal , So far an app may open randomly while scrolling menu or random move while playing a game , But it doesnt happened frequently ........ Also something people dont mention that phone closes apps randomly not alot but its noticable .
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    03-30-2014 02:53 PM
  6. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    Screen sensitivity not a big deal , So far an app may open randomly while scrolling menu or random move while playing a game , But it doesnt happened frequently ........ Also something people dont mention that phone closes apps randomly not alot but its noticable .
    If apps are crashing on a regular basis (not constantly, but regular) something is not right, either with those specific apps or with that specific phone (not the model...that literal specific phone).

    I've had a couple apps crash on me...but each time it stopped after an update meant to fix stability.
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    03-30-2014 03:08 PM
  7. xconomicron's Avatar
    I think there is a hardware defect w/ a batch of 1520's. I sent mine in for repair to Nokia because of the ever annoying screen sensitivity and proximity sensor/auto-brightness issues. Hell, my 1520 couldn't tell if I was indoors or outdoors half the time. My 1020, has none of these problems. -and Nokia keeps pushing out firmware updates to the 1520...with no fix in sight. In addition, drawing off context clues here, the issues seem to be affecting other people, but not all... which leads me to believe there are some hardware defects in at least a batch of phones. -Maybe they changed suppliers for certain hardware since the 1520 has been released? -so all in all I feel like I losing a battle on thinking my 1520 was a great buy. IMO my 1520 feels like a prototype phone where quality assurance was not tested before shipping.
    Last edited by xconomicron; 03-30-2014 at 03:18 PM.
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    03-30-2014 03:08 PM
  8. famguy41's Avatar
    I believe they have released a firmware update to address that issue specifically.
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    03-30-2014 03:25 PM
  9. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    I think there is a hardware defect w/ a batch of 1520's. I sent mine in for repair by Nokia because of the ever annoying screen sensitivity and proximity sensor/auto-brightness issue. My 1020, has none of these problems. -and Nokia keeps pushing out firmware updates to the 1520...with no fix in sight.
    As far as I'm aware the most any Lumia 1520 has received is 2 firmware updates.

    Things started out with the 3534 series, which in the US included the following:

    1028.3534.1343.0001 (Initial Shipping Firmware)
    1028.3534.1347.2001 (Updated Firmware)

    Then the 3562 series, which has only had a single release:
    1028.3562.1407.1001 (Brings the US release into line with the 3562 series previously released in other regions)

    In a 4 month time frame for a new product that's not a lot actually...especially since there's only been one real update for fixes and improvements. The other was a very minor update.

    So there have not been updates that Nokia keeps pushing out 'with no fix in sight'.

    Hyperbole serves no one well. *sighs*
    03-30-2014 03:32 PM
  10. sashlon's Avatar
    Thanks for the replies.

    Does anyone have any experience with the 128gb micro sd? I remember reading that it worked on the 1520, but that was a while ago.
    03-30-2014 04:03 PM
  11. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    Thanks for the replies.

    Does anyone have any experience with the 128gb micro sd? I remember reading that it worked on the 1520, but that was a while ago.
    It works, but it's an Extreme model from Sandisk, not the Extreme Plus.

    So far the Extreme Plus models are the only ones from Sandisk without performance issues on the 1520. So I would wait a tiny bit since there will likely be an Extreme Plus refresh before too long. :)
    03-30-2014 04:26 PM
  12. Coolknight1968's Avatar
    Well... The 1520... I really looked at that device, I like it, but I am not willing to pay the high price. I like big devices and have a HTC One max (Android). So I compared the 1520 display to the max. For indoor use, (like laying on bed) the viewing angles on the max are way superior, then you add in the large number of issues, cause there are many... Well I came to the conclusion... "Not worth the money"... Rather have a One max in that price range,the only issue on the One max is the lousy non OIS 4.1mp camera (much worse than on the One or One mini) So as I like big displays, I got me a 1320... Which has a cracking noise speaker issue with older Wp 7.5/8 games, but none with Wp 8 games. But the 1320 is less than 1/2 price of a 1520 and has better viewing angles indoors and a brighter display. A no brainer really as long as Nokia has so many QC issues. Sure most 1520 might be fine, but I am not willing to take that risk for such a high price.
    03-30-2014 04:41 PM
  13. xconomicron's Avatar
    As far as I'm aware the most any Lumia 1520 has received is 2 firmware updates.

    Things started out with the 3534 series, which in the US included the following:

    1028.3534.1343.0001 (Initial Shipping Firmware)
    1028.3534.1347.2001 (Updated Firmware)

    Then the 3562 series, which has only had a single release:
    1028.3562.1407.1001 (Brings the US release into line with the 3562 series previously released in other regions)

    In a 4 month time frame for a new product that's not a lot actually...especially since there's only been one real update for fixes and improvements. The other was a very minor update.
    Doesn't matter, either way you just reassessed my point... it hasn't been fixed yet in a 4 month period...then one could assume that there is another reason why it hasn't been fixed. I would think that any consumer who pays full retail price for a product would expect their product to fully work at time of purchase. I own several Nokia Lumia phones and all interchangeably use them, the 1520 has been the only Nokia product to disappoint me after purchase.

    Don't let cognitive dissonance cloud your mind dude. I would much rather save my energy and time on these boards since we are all Nokia/WP fans.
    03-30-2014 04:53 PM
  14. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    Doesn't matter, either way you just reassessed my point... it hasn't been fixed yet in a 4 month period...then one could assume that there is another reason why it hasn't been fixed. I would think that any consumer who pays full retail price for a product would expect their product to fully work at time of purchase. I own several Nokia Lumia phones and all interchangeably use them, the 1520 has been the only Nokia product to disappoint me after purchase.

    Don't let cognitive dissonance cloud your mind dude. I would much rather save my energy and time on these boards since we are all Nokia/WP fans.
    Cognitive dissonance in what way? Also to say that me taking my time to provide factual information 'doesn't matter' is insulting.

    This is just reinforcing my decision to not want to be here and to not want other folks from MS here either. *sighs*
    03-30-2014 05:29 PM
  15. undulose's Avatar
    Doesn't matter, either way you just reassessed my point... it hasn't been fixed yet in a 4 month period...then one could assume that there is another reason why it hasn't been fixed. I would think that any consumer who pays full retail price for a product would expect their product to fully work at time of purchase. I own several Nokia Lumia phones and all interchangeably use them, the 1520 has been the only Nokia product to disappoint me after purchase.

    Don't let cognitive dissonance cloud your mind dude. I would much rather save my energy and time on these boards since we are all Nokia/WP fans.



    Don't forget that apart from users with 1520 issues, there are users like me who really enjoy the device. Can you give a factual percentage of users with issues against users with none? Or at least an estimate. That's what the 'threadmaster' is looking for.





    Sent from my Nokia Lumia 1520 (RM-937 Malaysia) using Tapatalk
    03-30-2014 08:41 PM
  16. undulose's Avatar
    Well... The 1520... I really looked at that device, I like it, but I am not willing to pay the high price. I like big devices and have a HTC One max (Android). So I compared the 1520 display to the max. For indoor use, (like laying on bed) the viewing angles on the max are way superior, then you add in the large number of issues, cause there are many... Well I came to the conclusion... "Not worth the money"... Rather have a One max in that price range,the only issue on the One max is the lousy non OIS 4.1mp camera (much worse than on the One or One mini) So as I like big displays, I got me a 1320... Which has a cracking noise speaker issue with older Wp 7.5/8 games, but none with Wp 8 games. But the 1320 is less than 1/2 price of a 1520 and has better viewing angles indoors and a brighter display. A no brainer really as long as Nokia has so many QC issues. Sure most 1520 might be fine, but I am not willing to take that risk for such a high price.



    I won't say that the 1320 has better viewing angles indoor and brighter display. I've seen and fiddled a lot of times with Nokia 1320 demos and the 1520's screen look better. No offense meant but I think you're taking bias with your decision against buying the 1520. The 1320 may have half the price of 1520 but let's be honest with mediocrity of the former's specs relative to the latter. That will also make sense to its relatively low price.





    Sent from my Nokia Lumia 1520 (RM-937 Malaysia) using Tapatalk
    03-30-2014 08:45 PM
  17. Hasoumi's Avatar
    First , You cant really compare to one max , I havent get to compare HTC screen with 1520 but i did compare with samsing note3 and LG G2 and in general HTC/samsung/LG all of em are taking the same path in their screens , Which gives you high brightness and amazing colors , But those colors have nothing to do with reality , So what you see bit orange is actually red and a light greenish blue color appears light blue , And what you see so brown is way lighter in real , I have Galaxy note 3 however i still enjoy watching videos on my 1520 with true color than those fake glowing colors on my note 3 , so its more like preference than actually the screen is good or not .

    Second , I really do complain about many things in the phone , Like im not happy seeing my wifi connect and fail connect while showing that its connected sometimes , But i dont blame it on hardware , the device is great for me , However that windowsphone software killed it in many ways , Hoping the next update will improve the software experience since im almost doing everything on my note 3 expect playing games , watching videos , playing music and just checking notifications .....
    03-30-2014 10:09 PM
  18. xconomicron's Avatar
    Don't forget that apart from users with 1520 issues, there are users like me who really enjoy the device. Can you give a factual percentage of users with issues against users with none? Or at least an estimate. That's what the 'threadmaster' is looking for.
    That would be impossible to do. I just know that there are users out there who do and don't have issues with their 1520's...but like I stated in my first post...I think there is a bad "batch" of phones -not all- that have hardware defects....it is not all too uncommon for OEMs to fail quality assurance at a point during manufacturing. I ran in the same situation when the HTC One (M7) was first released last year.
    03-30-2014 10:34 PM
  19. xconomicron's Avatar
    Cognitive dissonance in what way? Also to say that me taking my time to provide factual information 'doesn't matter' is insulting.

    This is just reinforcing my decision to not want to be here and to not want other folks from MS here either. *sighs*
    I apologize for saying that. I thought you were implying that there was nothing wrong with the 1520...by stating that there were only two updates pushed out.

    I know that there were two firmware updates pushed out since release. And I know that at least one of those updates was addressed to fix the proximity sensor and sensitivity issues. However I whole heartily disagree with you in the last paragraph in your previous reply stating that two firmware updates in a 4 month period from release is not a lot...especially if the problems still exist. OEMs should not have to push any firmware updates if they had a good quality control team. -which up till now, thought Nokia did well at.
    03-30-2014 10:55 PM
  20. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    I apologize for saying that. I thought you were implying that there was nothing wrong with the 1520...by stating that there were only two updates pushed out.

    I know that there were two firmware updates pushed out since release. And I know that at least one of those updates was addressed to fix the proximity sensor and sensitivity issues. However I whole heartily disagree with you in the last paragraph in your previous reply stating that two firmware updates in a 4 month period from release is not a lot...especially if the problems still exist. OEMs should not have to push any firmware updates if they had a good quality control team. -which up till now, thought Nokia did well at.
    Thank you. :)

    BTW none of those updates list that they are for the sensitivity issues. The first set of updates was part of the 'release series' and the second update is in the same series as what the rest of the world received. That update is for some updated bluetooth stack related stuff and some general fixes.

    Nokia has never said that any of these specific updates are for the sensitivity issue. To be honest I would expect that to occur with the 8.1 drop or a little before since that is going to be their next big firmware update.

    BTW, OEM's have to push firmware updates all the time...usually when new OS versions are released in case there are any oddities that crop up with changes to the underlying OS code.

    It sounds like you've never coded any sort of software to be quite honest...but if I'm wrong in that assumption please feel free to tell me.

    The only standalone update that they've done is the 3562 release. The other firmware update was specifically tied to an OS build update from Microsoft as the 1520 was released before GDR3 was 100% ready to go.
    03-31-2014 12:48 AM
  21. xconomicron's Avatar
    Thank you. :)

    BTW none of those updates list that they are for the sensitivity issues. The first set of updates was part of the 'release series' and the second update is in the same series as what the rest of the world received. That update is for some updated bluetooth stack related stuff and some general fixes.

    Nokia has never said that any of these specific updates are for the sensitivity issue. To be honest I would expect that to occur with the 8.1 drop or a little before since that is going to be their next big firmware update.

    BTW, OEM's have to push firmware updates all the time...usually when new OS versions are released in case there are any oddities that crop up with changes to the underlying OS code.

    It sounds like you've never coded any sort of software to be quite honest...but if I'm wrong in that assumption please feel free to tell me.

    The only standalone update that they've done is the 3562 release. The other firmware update was specifically tied to an OS build update from Microsoft as the 1520 was released before GDR3 was 100% ready to go.
    Changelog....Latest software release for Nokia Lumia 1520 is 1028.3562.1407.1001



    • Improvements to touch sensitivity
    • Improvements to Bluetooth connection quality
    • Improvements to headset detection
    • Improvements to stability and performance


    Before calling out people, you might want to check your "facts" with Nokia first....

    ..............O.o "sigh" .................

    I've lost motivation in this thread now. Thanks OP. Keep an open mind when you're making a decision. I am sure Nokia will fix these issues in the future.
    Last edited by xconomicron; 03-31-2014 at 01:40 AM.
    03-31-2014 01:10 AM
  22. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    Changelog....Latest software release for Nokia Lumia 1520 is 1028.3562.1407.1001



    • Improvements to touch sensitivity
    • Improvements to Bluetooth connection quality
    • Improvements to headset detection
    • Improvements to stability and performance


    Before calling out people, you might want to check your "facts" with Nokia first....

    ..............O.o "sigh" .................

    I've lost motivation in this thread now. Thanks OP. Keep an open mind when you're making a decision. I am sure Nokia will fix these issues in the future.
    The official changelog page is located here: Firmware change logs for Nokia Lumia (Windows Phone) devices - Nokia Developer Wiki

    It hasn't even been updated to show these changes yet...which means the page you're referencing (Nokia Lumia 1520 - Software Update and Downloads - Nokia - USA) must have been updated within the last day or so as it was showing the previous firmware update log when I looked before.

    Unfortunately I cannot verify when those changes were made since Archive.org wasn't following that page, but I added it to the archive so future updates should be traceable for when the page is updated.

    BTW I do see a timestamp that shows the page was updated about 2 days ago when looking through things...so my apologies for not checking today before I posted...that is indeed actually my fault.

    I should make sure to ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS look for the latest version of all pages on their server that could possible contain changelog data, not just the official changelog page.

    No I'm not being sarcastic. I'm willing to accept when I make a mistake.

    It also looks like the official changelog page doesn't even have the AT&T version of the 1520 listed. It only lists the RM-937, RM-938, and RM-939 for some reason...
    03-31-2014 01:46 AM
  23. undulose's Avatar
    That would be impossible to do. I just know that there are users out there who do and don't have issues with their 1520's...but like I stated in my first post...I think there is a bad "batch" of phones -not all- that have hardware defects....it is not all too uncommon for OEMs to fail quality assurance at a point during manufacturing. I ran in the same situation when the HTC One (M7) was first released last year.


    Ah right. Sorry but I didn't mean to offend on my reply. Just want to make the threadmaster's life easier.





    Sent from my Nokia Lumia 1520 (RM-937 Malaysia) using Tapatalk
    04-01-2014 07:41 AM
  24. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    Well...fwiw...I left my note2 at the att store as a trade in.While not a note3..mine was fully rooted and running 4.4 so it was up to date without official firmware.

    To my satisfaction no issues present. This phone is simply great.

    Gone is quirkiness and worry of having to continually flash roms updates radios just to keep it from crashing..and being able to get full signal strength

    My advise for what it is worth,get one and don't fret about it..It's just not Android and things are different but better in ways depending on your perspective..Battery life has been excellent,no crashes playing games,downloading,watching utube HD videos,phone calls,texting,using maps,Nokia radio ...no crackling speaker,proximity issues...just enjoying this phone for 2 days.

    Mac
    04-01-2014 01:26 PM
  25. Coolknight1968's Avatar
    I will stand by my opinion, for less money the bit older HTC One max is a way safer bet in that price range. Crashes a really a non issue on Android 4.3.2. My HTC One runs 4.4.2 and is less stable. For less than 1/2 price the Nokia 1320 is a device which is substantially less likely to have issues than the 1520. This is not only about raw performance but also buying a device that will less likely upset you because of issues.
    04-03-2014 04:26 PM
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