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  1. christenmartin's Avatar
    Got the RM 938 for the main reason was because qi charging, and the fact that it is a power house. I just feel like without wireless charging its a down grade. My opinion. Just love the phone your with.
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    04-18-2014 09:56 PM
  2. MadBullBunny's Avatar
    Got the RM 938 for the main reason was because qi charging, and the fact that it is a power house. I just feel like without wireless charging its a down grade. My opinion. Just love the phone your with.
    Personal preference indeed and I wouldn't want to force my opinion on anyone. In my case though I got my 1520 entirely for $0.01 right before the new plan upgrade and now its only $25 a month instead of the $40 it should which would've been what AT&T would've made money on. I rather live without Qi charging for that kind of deal and as i stated previously, the battery life in astronomical so don't ditch the phone because it doesn't have a feature that is entirely unneeded in the first place. Sell the pads on craigslist, people buy that kind of stuff all the time.
    04-18-2014 09:59 PM
  3. hasasimo's Avatar
    Semantics... people offended by the use of the word "gimped" to describe the AT&T variant, what word would you use? It lacks a feature most high-end Lumias have (including other 1520s) and has half the built-in storage. It's still a terrific device but it can't be denied that it's been stripped of quite a bit vs every other variant.
    Last edited by hasasimo; 04-19-2014 at 12:34 AM.
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    04-19-2014 12:14 AM
  4. hmmwv's Avatar
    The ATT version is crippled to 16GB storage, lack of Qi, and lack of full band support. This is done mostly to sell more accessories, such as microSD card, PMA charging cover and powermat, and discourage it be unlocked and used on TMobile.
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    04-19-2014 12:23 AM
  5. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    I don't consider my 1520 gimped. Though I wish it had more memory, I couldn't care less about the qi charging.
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    04-19-2014 12:35 AM
  6. hasasimo's Avatar
    It's a great phone, I'm sure you definitely are enjoying it. In fairness though I think it being a stripped down version and caring whether or not it's a stripped down version are two different things. I don't know if you fall into this category but it would seem the majority of those that care are those that have gotten used to it. As with any great feature, it's hard to do without it once you've gotten used to it.
    04-19-2014 12:43 AM
  7. oditius's Avatar
    In terms of the RM-938 it is.

    Sent from my RM-820_nam_att_100 using Tapatalk
    Do you mean that the 938 is faster? Better camera? More memory? Different OS? Funny how not having a Qi makes it gimped... It can perform just like the 938, now in the 937 in the US might be considered "Gimped" because of its lack of LTE. But there is nothing different between the 938 and the 32GB 940... Only the Qi charging which doesn't effect the phone at all, I have a PMA charging case, so not only is my phone protected, it also has wireless charging.
    04-19-2014 05:08 AM
  8. oditius's Avatar
    The ATT version is crippled to 16GB storage, lack of Qi, and lack of full band support. This is done mostly to sell more accessories, such as microSD card, PMA charging cover and powermat, and discourage it be unlocked and used on TMobile.
    HUH? My AT&T is 32GB..... I have a PMA Charger I bought off ebay for a lot cheaper than online. And it has the added feature of also being a case to protect it (So I didn't have to buy a case). The International (RM-937) is the one that doesn't have full band support, not the AT&T RM-940 (Mine gets 4G on TMO) So the only thing that is valid with your comment is.... NOTHING... Lack of Qi doesn't affect the phone, just your laziness of plugging it in. And with 8.1 a SD card is now a BIG advantage. A major jump ahead of any 32GB version without a SD card,
    04-19-2014 05:17 AM
  9. rdubmu's Avatar
    For people who have already invested in QI charging plates it is gimped. The issue isn't for people who haven't used QI charging before it is for the people who have. There needs to be a wireless charging standard, this is like beta-max/vhs, wordperfect/msword, hd-dvd/blueray... Now it is PMA/QI. When PMA goes away, I am pretty sure people will.be upset due to the high cost the equipment. Most people got the 16gig 1520 because the 32gig wasn't available. The RM-938/1520.3 is the better device. I can put any case on it and it has wireless charging. For people who haven't invested in QI charging the phone isn't gimped. The argument about being lazy and not plugging it is a far reach.. I personally like setting my phone on the QI charger and picking it up when I get a call. Plus my QI charger charges my 920 faster than the cord.

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    04-19-2014 08:01 AM
  10. manicottiK's Avatar
    HUH? My AT&T is 32GB..... I have a PMA Charger I bought off ebay for a lot cheaper than online. And it has the added feature of also being a case to protect it (So I didn't have to buy a case). ... So the only thing that is valid with your comment is.... NOTHING.
    I'm guessing that you know that your response is disingenuous, but that you want to defend your decision against attack. You don't need to defend your decision, because you got the device that you wanted. Ignore everyone else.

    However, let's say that hmmwv had a white 920 and one or two QI charging plates. For him, getting a 1520 from AT&T means getting a faster process, bigger screen, and bigger battery. It also means losing half the built-in memory and wireless charging (since his investment is in Qi plates). He can gain back the memory by switching to black. He can gain back the wireless charging, but only by buying new plates and a case that makes the 1520 thicker than the 920.

    I agree that "crippled" and "gimped" are harsh terms, but AT&T did snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It's now mid-April and PMA isn't yet gaining much traction at AT&T. The 1520 came out in December. If AT&T had originally sold the RM-938, they'd have had greater success and happier customers for almost six months of the 12- to 18-month life of this product. They could have said to Nokia, "we'll resell the 938 for six months, but then we want to relaunch the 1520 with PMA and Windows Phone 8.1." Nokia would have jumped at it. And AT&T's PMA environment would be more developed to embrace the 1520.

    AT&T messed up. Even with that, the 1520 is so great than many, many users are very happy with it. In some ways, it's sad that AT&T may never know how good they could have had it.
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    04-19-2014 08:06 AM
  11. christenmartin's Avatar
    I'm guessing that you know that your response is disingenuous, but that you want to defend your decision against attack. You don't need to defend your decision, because you got the device that you wanted. Ignore everyone else.

    However, let's say that hmmwv had a white 920 and one or two QI charging plates. For him, getting a 1520 from AT&T means getting a faster process, bigger screen, and bigger battery. It also means losing half the built-in memory and wireless charging (since his investment is in Qi plates). He can gain back the memory by switching to black. He can gain back the wireless charging, but only by buying new plates and a case that makes the 1520 thicker than the 920.

    I agree that "crippled" and "gimped" are harsh terms, but AT&T did snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It's now mid-April and PMA isn't yet gaining much traction at AT&T. The 1520 came out in December. If AT&T had originally sold the RM-938, they'd have had greater success and happier customers for almost six months of the 12- to 18-month life of this product. They could have said to Nokia, "we'll resell the 938 for six months, but then we want to relaunch the 1520 with PMA and Windows Phone 8.1." Nokia would have jumped at it. And AT&T's PMA environment would be more developed to embrace the 1520.

    AT&T messed up. Even with that, the 1520 is so great than many, many users are very happy with it. In some ways, it's sad that AT&T may never know how good they could have had it.
    that is the proper prospective. Why do phones on ATT have less features than a phone from south America (Brazil I believe)?
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    04-19-2014 10:01 AM
  12. xandros9's Avatar
    What as the stupid rational for ATT to remove a hardware feature?
    Because ATT got in bed with a competing standard (PMA) and they want to retard adoption of the current more-adopted standard. (Qi)
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    04-19-2014 01:04 PM
  13. jwinch2's Avatar
    1. I'm far from the only one who says Qi charging with this phone is pointless and also you keep straying away from what I'm saying. I'm talking about you and how YOU praise the phone. I don't think others would want to set their phone on a pillow to charge, that is where heads go.
    He is talking about a charging pillow: Nokia Wireless Charging Pillow by Fatboy Overview - Nokia
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    04-19-2014 05:58 PM
  14. oditius's Avatar
    Oh well, I got my phone free because of a great manager at a AT&T store. No money, no monthly payments, and no ding on my upgrade. So I guess I can afford the PMA case. I just don't like the term "gimped" being used on my (Or any other RM-940) phone because mine can do everything the 938 can do, even charge wirelessly. I would have put a case on it anyway, so I really didn't lose anything. There can be one advantage to PMA if companies that make those extended batteries that attach to the pone (Mugen <sp>) would get on board. Not only can they put the PMA charge in it, but they probably could put a extra battery in it. (Then who would have a gimped phone with mine lasting a week on one charge?) I had one for my HTC One, but it make it almost a inch longer. I rather have thicker than longer. Oh, and I had the 920 when it first came out, but back then there was apps I needed WP didn't have. (And for the record, I paid $50 for it and got 2 chargers because of a mess up, and the nice person in India decided to give me $75 in credit because of the mistakes the sales clerk made. So I guess I got paid to take that phone. LoL)
    04-19-2014 07:00 PM
  15. jive_inc's Avatar
    FWIW, I just upgraded a few weeks ago from the 920 to the 1520 and while there were (at first) some disappointment at not having wireless charging it changed for me. Do not get me wrong, wireless charging is awesome but so is the 1520 in a lot of areas. Yes, the size is as everyone says, BIG but that just means more tiles and less scrolling. These sorts of decisions are certainly personal, I am just adding my 2 cents. I only charge my phone once every two days or so, for me that is enough to not miss the wireless charging.
    Good luck with your decision.
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    04-19-2014 08:40 PM
  16. mister2d's Avatar
    ...I just don't like the term "gimped" being used on my (Or any other RM-940) phone because mine can do everything the 938 can do, even charge wirelessly.
    Well I'm certain the AT&T version does not work on another carrier's LTE (only slower speeds)--while the 938 does. Isn't this one of the major draws of the RM-938? Freedom AND LTE? I like 'and' better. :D
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    04-19-2014 11:19 PM
  17. hs k's Avatar
    Ah, first world problems! I just love reading up this ****!
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    04-19-2014 11:47 PM
  18. Tony_Offends_U's Avatar
    Half the storage
    No Qi charging
    And NO DATA SENSE, which is important for some because AT&T likes to dig in peoples pockets for going over data.
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    04-20-2014 12:19 AM
  19. Zacharyw70's Avatar
    Half the storage
    No Qi charging
    And NO DATA SENSE, which is important for some because AT&T likes to dig in peoples pockets for going over data.
    To be fair you can now buy the 32GB model with AT&T, and Data Sense is back in for 8.1
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    04-20-2014 12:24 AM
  20. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    To be fair you can now buy the 32GB model with AT&T, and Data Sense is back in for 8.1
    People will still complain about it lacking qi
    04-20-2014 12:35 AM
  21. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    Half the storage
    No Qi charging
    And NO DATA SENSE, which is important for some because AT&T likes to dig in peoples pockets for going over data.
    Lol...werent you singing praises over the SE vs icon and what features the icon lacked? I just found it funny you were posting false info while days ago, you were praising Samsung phone for having the same features that the 1520 "lacks".

    Also doesn't the Samsung ativ se have 16 GB plus SD capabilities JUST LIKE THE 1520? And weren't you singing praises about how awesome that phone is. Now this is amusing lol
    And windows phone 8.1 also brings data sense, which I am surprised to see you didn't realize.

    And the SE which you were singing praises about, lacks wireless charging compared to the 1520(qi or pma).

    And another thing, idk why people always try to make a specific carrier look bad. Aside from tmobile, I am pretty sure Verizon and sprint LOVE the fact when someone goes over their allotted data so they canger charged extra but I seriously doubt att sits around going. "hmm, lets see how we can screw our customers today". They are no different than the others.
    04-20-2014 12:42 AM
  22. mister2d's Avatar
    People will still complain about it lacking qi
    And being stuck on AT&Ts LTE.
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    04-20-2014 12:43 AM
  23. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    And being stuck on AT&Ts LTE.
    I don't get the issues with att lte.

    I have no issues with att lte. From the big cities in California and new York to my college in new haven and even the Podunk rural area my family lives in in north Carolina, I don't have any issues with att lte.
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    04-20-2014 12:46 AM
  24. snowmutt's Avatar
    First off, let us all breathe in for a minute. A few tempers seem to be flaring. Okay, breathe out....

    "Gimped" seems to be almost an argument starter, so let's set that aside for a minute. There are 2 absolutes here:

    1) Those who invested money in Qi charging for their L920's are 100% correct in their feelings here. Unless you have this feature, you do not know what you could have had. No reason why L920 users shouldn't be a little annoyed at AT&T for that decision. Surely, the L920 users felt their investments were solid and would pay off in future devices as well.

    2) The AT&T version of the L1520 may have a little less to offer then it's international cousin. So, that means it just whups 80% of the other cell phones out there, instead of the 95% it could have.

    AT&T has bet on a different wireless standard. My bet is their bet is wrong. But, I am not on a roll lately for predictions. So, lets sum up this thread:

    -L1520 at it's worst is freaking awesome.

    -AT&T is not always the smoothest rolling bowling ball in the alley, but it is large enough to knock more pins down then it misses and it has been an outstanding WP supporter, so maybe some forgiveness from all non-L920 owners is earned.

    -L920 owners have to flip a coin as to when the goodies they bought for charging their still-awesome L920 is outweighed by all the other top shelf hardware offered in upcoming models. Unless AT&T changes it's mind on Qi charging, of ccourse. In this case, L920 owners will look like wise Sages and will be happily upgrading.

    About sum it up?
    04-20-2014 12:51 AM
  25. mister2d's Avatar
    I don't get the issues with att lte.

    I have no issues with att lte. From the big cities in California and new York to my college in new haven and even the Podunk rural area my family lives in in north Carolina, I don't have any issues with att lte.
    Oh, I wasn't implying that AT&T users were having issues. I am just pointing out that if for some reason you want another carrier, say Tmo, then you won't get LTE speeds again.
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    04-20-2014 12:53 AM
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