06-23-2014 05:44 PM
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  1. Chregu's Avatar
    Again you miss the point. This isnt a thread about the functionality of windows phone.

    And I dont think "it is the perfect size for me". 5.1"-6.9" is the standard size given for phablets. How I or anyone feels doesnt change that. But I think its stupid to pick the size of 6" as the con for a phablet.
    Then the LG is a phablet too and the large size is mentioned in reviews.

    I really don't see the point then, maybe mentioning an important characteristic is stupid. I still think the features are important, when a 6 inch phone doesn't offer any advantage over a 5 inch phone, except more screen size for movies and games. This makes the size and weight a disadvantage to most people.

    I don't understand your point and trying to see this as being logical almost hurts, but alright.
    06-14-2014 04:33 PM
  2. troylytle's Avatar
    I don't see what they base weight on. I think its surprisingly light.
    06-14-2014 05:53 PM
  3. Jas00555's Avatar
    I don't see what they base weight on. I think its surprisingly light.
    Their iPhones
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    06-16-2014 04:09 PM
  4. anon(5841099)'s Avatar
    The 1520 is larger than competitors with the same screen size, and even larger than some competitors with slightly larger screens. So even within the phablet category there is something to say for it being too big...
    06-16-2014 04:19 PM
  5. Microsoftjunkie's Avatar
    The 1520 is larger than competitors with the same screen size, and even larger than some competitors with slightly larger screens. So even within the phablet category there is something to say for it being too big...
    What phones?
    06-16-2014 04:23 PM
  6. ScottGeek's Avatar
    All of the "Size" and "Weight" Con (a.k.a BS), is squarely based on an iPhone- center of the phone universe- comparison. And indeed, you are correct anyone who adds size as a Con, well that "Journalist" more than likely has not taken the time to find something really important to criticize. You know, like actual things that make the phone less useful.

    There's lots of folks that don't like larger phones... which is good... because there's is lots of sizes to choose from...even large iPhones that are about to show up.

    I'm forever telling people that if you don't want a large phone... gee, don't buy one. The 6" is Not a Con... just like having a phone whose OS is Android Based is Not a Con... It's just a different choice....

    Con's are things like... "it has a 3 hour battery life"... "it reboots every 3 seconds when I connect it to a bad wifi"... "it never takes non-fuzzy pictures"... "what?! I have to buy another non-standard cable to charge this thing". It's that crap that makes a phone... Less Useful!

    Cheers,
    ~ScottGeek.
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    06-16-2014 07:28 PM
  7. Chregu's Avatar
    All of the "Size" and "Weight" Con (a.k.a BS), is squarely based on an iPhone- center of the phone universe- comparison.
    About the iPhone 5S.

    CNET:

    External design is identical to that of the iPhone 5, including a 4-inch screen that looks downright tiny next to Android competitors.
    Trustredreviews:

    4-inch screen too small for some
    Techradar:

    No screen tech change
    (They mention in the text that this includes size)

    Engadget only has it in the text:

    For anyone who needs copious amounts of screen space, a 4-inch display likely won't cut it
    But they refer to it with this:

    Last year's design
    I really don't see the problem you guys have. I really don't.
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    06-17-2014 03:14 AM
  8. ScottGeek's Avatar
    About the iPhone 5S.

    CNET:



    Trustredreviews:



    Techradar:

    (They mention in the text that this includes size)

    Engadget only has it in the text:



    But they refer to it with this:



    I really don't see the problem you guys have. I really don't.
    IMHO, I believe the point to be is that Size is a subjective measure that depends on what the individual likes or dislikes... It is not a negative that a phone has a large size... ergo, How can it be a "Con" if we assume that "Con" is the lists of the negatives about a device.

    Now, if indeed you want to split all of the hairs and review a phone from the perspective of screen/picture quality... then one might review devices based on this measure and talk about the picture/video experience and ask questions like "Is watching a NetFlix(TM) stream on a smaller screen with a higher pixel ratio better experience than on a larger device with less pixel quality?" - That kind of question gives one an idea if putting a remark in the Con column tells something about the device... The "this sucks because it's 6".... and I [the reviewer] don't like that" tells one that the "reviewer" does not like large phones.... I would say there's a bit of difference there.

    The Lumia 1520 is in a whole different category than the 5S... and there are lots of people love that small screen. People who review phones and put negative comments about how small this is compared to how large that one is... yeah, it's the same pointless comparison from the other side. It's still not a "Con"....

    ~ScottGeek.
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    06-17-2014 12:15 PM
  9. Chregu's Avatar
    IMHO, I believe the point to be is that Size is a subjective measure that depends on what the individual likes or dislikes... It is not a negative that a phone has a large size... ergo, How can it be a "Con" if we assume that "Con" is the lists of the negatives about a device.

    Now, if indeed you want to split all of the hairs and review a phone from the perspective of screen/picture quality... then one might review devices based on this measure and talk about the picture/video experience and ask questions like "Is watching a NetFlix(TM) stream on a smaller screen with a higher pixel ratio better experience than on a larger device with less pixel quality?" - That kind of question gives one an idea if putting a remark in the Con column tells something about the device... The "this sucks because it's 6".... and I [the reviewer] don't like that" tells one that the "reviewer" does not like large phones.... I would say there's a bit of difference there.

    The Lumia 1520 is in a whole different category than the 5S... and there are lots of people love that small screen. People who review phones and put negative comments about how small this is compared to how large that one is... yeah, it's the same pointless comparison from the other side. It's still not a "Con"....

    ~ScottGeek.
    Nice, we just forgot about the iPhone-universe remark. Fair enough.

    I know what you mean, I understand that the big or small size doesn't have to be a disadvantage for certain users. But when something differs that much from the norm without giving an advantage, it should be mentioned.

    The only advantage the small iPhone screen size has over bigger screens is that the phone fits better in a pocket, there are however many downsides. The only advantage the 1520's screen size has over smaller screens is that browsing, movie watching and gaming might be more enjoyable, it doesn't go deeper than that, there's no real advantage. This has also to do with OS limitations of course. There are however many downsides. The phone is hard to fit in a pocket, it's heavy, it's uncomfortable to hold, it's not usable with one hand.

    You might disagree, you might think these downsides are no downsides for you, there are still downsides for most people and should be mentioned.

    Saying that this is "stupidity" is simplistic and disrespectful. Actually, it's just what a fanboy would say that feels hurt in his feelings.
    06-17-2014 12:28 PM
  10. Maaz Mansori's Avatar
    The con here is not the size of the screen. The con is the fact that there is really no other option available on AT&T unless you want to go with an outdated phone with lower specs. The large screen does have its advantages when browsing the web and using things such as remote desktop. It also has its disadvantages as being too wide to hold with 1 hand, too large for some pockets, can be too large to wear on your arm if you ever use an armband for running, and for women will not fit in most purses that have a pocket designed to hold phones, etc.

    You just have to evaluate and see what is more important to you. I have a 1520 and like it very much and it even fits in most of my front pockets. Still, it's a bit bulky to carry around especially when doing summer activities outside, etc. If the 930 or Icon was available with AT&T, I probably would have chosen that instead although in reality I think somewhere in between 5 and 5.5 inch screen would be more perfect.
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    06-17-2014 02:40 PM
  11. brunoadduarte's Avatar
    On a phablet the size of the screen isn't a con. Granted though, that the 1520 is big. Very big. There's too much bezel going on, which makes it too big for many pockets. Hell, most Windows Phones are too big for what they are. Only the 925 makes the cut, other than that, they're all too thick, too wide or both. Beautiful, yes, but bulky too.

    The problem with all this screen size debate is that big screen phones (mostly high-ends) are good for some people, but others, who like smaller screens on high-end specs are left in the dark. Even the "mini" versions are starting to come out with 4.5'' screens (HTC One m8 mini). I, for one, simply refuse to use a phone with two hands. I've even considered leaving WP one or two times simply because, while I have a phone with a decent screen size and specs (Lumia 820), I don't have a 4x3 keyboard with t9 so I could type with just one hand. I always end up grabbing the phone with my two hands and that never was practical for me when I'm walking. That being said with a phone the size of the 1520, even the big screen fans can say it's too big. But it's not the screen's fault in this case.
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    06-17-2014 02:56 PM
  12. Stavrosd2006's Avatar
    it all comes down to personal needs for final decision.yes it is bigger than others,(btw I was a user of an sgs3 my biggest phone till 1520)
    but when you get a grip on it you will forget its size. only downsize for me it is in summer, less clothes less pockets.still, I do not regret my purchase.
    I will never go back to lagdroid either. The os is getting better and better.
    06-17-2014 02:57 PM
  13. Joel S.'s Avatar
    Both.

    It depends on how you look at it. If I'm on AT&T and I want a Nokia device, I'm going to weigh the positives (pros) and negatives (cons) of each device based on my usecase. The 6" screen is too big for me, so it's a con.

    If you want to specifically talk to the reviews, IMO its a poor review if they point to sheer screen size as a con. It's a preference of the buyer, and the screen's sheer size is irrelevant.
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    06-17-2014 03:29 PM
  14. Viracocha's Avatar
    The con is more of the phone being that size without an active stylus. As a happy Lumia 920 owner, even I'm somewhat jealous of Note 3 owners with their active stylus and fancy stylus holder built into the phone. Hopefully, their will be a WP competitor soon and it'll be using wacom and not n-trig.
    06-17-2014 03:35 PM
  15. Mike-J-G's Avatar
    I had a Galaxy Note. It was a bit bulky so when I switched to Windows Phone I was looking forward to having a smaller phone again, the 925. Six months later I found I was never using my phone. It was just too small to comfortably consume content. I got a 1520 a couple weeks ago and have been very happy with the size. I often use it instead of my notebook which I never did with past phones, not even the Note. It's big enough to be as useful as a small tablet which is a huge pro.
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    06-17-2014 03:40 PM
  16. msalmank's Avatar
    I actually don't consider it a con in case of the Lumia 1520, nor in any other Phablet out there really. It all comes down to features and specifications that the device offers mainly, and then pretty much a matter of personal preference.

    For me, I decided on the Lumia 1520 as my next device after the Lumia 920 because of the higher resolution and more powerful camera along with SD card support and 2 GB RAM. I could have just as easily gone for the Lumia 1020 with its superior camera and similar specs as the 1520, albeit the smaller resolution, and it would have cost me Rs. 10,000 (approx $100) less to have done so. But for me, the size of the 1520 though a bit large at first, is just perfect at being the right amount of large. I love the display and the screen size (despite some trouble with one-handed use - yippee for voice commands though!)

    In short, size does matter but to some extent. I probably would never go for a smaller screen size on a phone in the future as I love the extra real estate (resolution is extremely important - it wouldn't serve much purpose had the Lumia 1520 had the same resolution as, say, the Lumia 920 device). But that's just my preference... From what I've seen, I put performance and specifications high on my list... if the device offers a better set of features and overall experience, no matter what the screen size, I get used to it.

    I've used devices such as the iPhone (first gen), Xperia X1, HTC Mozart, HTC One, BlackBerry Bold Touch, Samsung Galaxy S3, iPhone 5, BlackBerry Z10 Lumia 920 and more... And each time, screen size has played close to none, if any at all, significance in my decision.

    Though I have to admit, considering how much I'm enjoying the Lumia 1520... I might change my opinion soon! ;)

    Cheers!
    Salman Khalid
    06-17-2014 03:41 PM
  17. badcat's Avatar
    It can only be a "pro" or "con" for any individual user. I, for one, would never buy a phone that size. But if someone else wants a phone that big, have at it. It good to have options.
    06-17-2014 03:56 PM
  18. kwickone's Avatar
    Not Sheer stupidity. Many like the size. Definitely a CON for some, including me. For me, the current screen size of the 925 is as big as I want to get. And the thinner and sleeker the better!
    06-17-2014 04:35 PM
  19. ScottGeek's Avatar
    Nice, we just forgot about the iPhone-universe remark. Fair enough.

    I know what you mean, I understand that the big or small size doesn't have to be a disadvantage for certain users. But when something differs that much from the norm without giving an advantage, it should be mentioned.
    Indeed yes....

    The "norm".... now we're touching at the heart of the problem... Whose "norm"? Does one define this by the shear numbers of who owns a certain type of device? If that's the case, then in the US I gather the "norm" is iPhone?

    My my how small the Universe just got.... (yeap, every pun intended )

    Everywhere else on the planet, iPhone not the "norm".... I suspect this might be why the rumored 6S is.... yeap, larger?

    Maybe the better word for this is what's "common".... Hey, that makes the 1520 un-"common" and special? -Sorry I couldn't resist...



    Saying that this is "stupidity" is simplistic and disrespectful. Actually, it's just what a fanboy would say that feels hurt in his feelings.
    Well, I tend not to call out the fanboy or say someone is being disrespectful unless they specifically point their words at someone. But calling into question what "reviewers" put on the "con" list.... and of course this whole idea that what is "norm" to you... must be by definition the "norm" for me? Well, you get the point...

    Yeap, I have the 1520 and a Note II and Note III, so it's obvious where I land on the question of size.... believe it or not... something like a Note 8... that can come in a phone version that's 8"... is too big My Note 8 comes out when I want a small tablet to read with not to place a phone call or have a mobile computing device.

    It's good to have a difference of opinion....this creates choice.

    Cheers,
    ~ScottGeek.
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    06-17-2014 04:56 PM
  20. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    I agree with the op....

    Yes..it is stupid to say 6" phablets are too big..they are supposed to be....they are a frigging phablet...

    They aren't a small phone that easily fits into tiny hands or skin tight jeans...

    They are big...Thank God....for the countless morons who lament over this fact...I have some advice..

    Get a grip..Get a life..and Get the heck over it..buy a smaller phone you like and can do what you want it to.

    No one that owns one and likes it gives a ratts **** what those small handed,small minded,people with screen envy think...
    06-17-2014 05:16 PM
  21. The_Greys's Avatar
    If you don't like it's stupid, but then I don't like this question. Sooooo it's a stupid thread. I bought my 1520.3 two weeks ago and I love it.
    06-17-2014 05:38 PM
  22. EC Translating Services's Avatar
    For some can be a con but I suspect many have never seen one in real or never carried one around. For me size was top requirement. I wouldn't have bought the phone had it been smaller. I carry it in my back pocket and never felt size was a con. The stupidity lies in the fact too many may be speaking without having never carried one. I never bought a WP before because OS was too immature for real work and because all screens were too small for my needs. The only WP I would EVER buy for me is 5.5 inches to 6". Anything smaller or bigger is a no-go
    06-17-2014 05:47 PM
  23. brunoadduarte's Avatar
    For some can be a con but I suspect many have never seen one in real or never carried one around. For me size was top requirement. I wouldn't have bought the phone had it been smaller. I carry it in my back pocket and never felt size was a con. The stupidity lies in the fact too many may be speaking without having never carried one. I never bought a WP before because OS was too immature for real work and because all screens were too small for my needs. The only WP I would EVER buy for me is 5.5 inches to 6". Anything smaller or bigger is a no-go

    By what you're saying I'm going to assume that you're inferring that everyone should or must have a phone the size of the 1520 or even like something like it. And if they don't like it precisely because it's big, they're stupid. A phablet may be a phablet, but it's still nothing more than a smartphone. The phablet connotation is but a nickname of sorts for XXL smartphones and not everyone has to like them. I sure as hell don't because I simply don't like big SMARTPHONES., period. If you like them, power to you, but don't you dare accusing me of stupidity for not liking them.
    06-17-2014 05:57 PM
  24. Rawliglat x's Avatar
    By what you're saying I'm going to assume that you're inferring that everyone should or must have a phone the size of the 1520 or even like something like it. And if they don't like it precisely because it's big, they're stupid. A phablet may be a phablet, but it's still nothing more than a smartphone. The phablet connotation is but a nickname of sorts for XXL smartphones and not everyone has to like them. I sure as hell don't because I simply don't like big SMARTPHONES., period. If you like them, power to you, but don't you dare accusing me of stupidity for not liking them.
    Would you also call the size of tablets a con?
    06-17-2014 06:27 PM
  25. clvrbas's Avatar
    Its nota con or stupidity. Nokia was trying to get a device into that size category for competitive reasons. Its too big for my fancy, but I wouldn't not recommend it because of the size.
    06-17-2014 06:39 PM
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