07-25-2014 11:49 AM
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  1. binnyandrews's Avatar
    This Phablet is a fantastic one when it come to the hardware. But from the OS perspective this is a just another LUMIA520 with a front camera and 6" display. There are no specific software's built for this model. As a business user, i expect at least couple of software delicately written for the 1520 that differs it from other Lumias. MS seems least bothered about it but busy in promoting Android. May be it is time to switch to Nokia XL or Samy.

    Seems like death of a masterpiece hardware from Nokia!!!! Poorer are those who bought it!!!
    Last edited by binnyandrews; 06-25-2014 at 01:33 PM.
    06-25-2014 01:22 PM
  2. yaron zeevik's Avatar
    Can you give more detailed examples for dedicated apps?
    06-25-2014 01:26 PM
  3. binnyandrews's Avatar
    Can you give more detailed examples for dedicated apps?
    No need to give more details just look at rivals like Samy Note etc.They have dedicated applications for those models.
    06-25-2014 01:36 PM
  4. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    I don't consider a bigger 520....it is a bigger 930. Literally it is.
    06-25-2014 01:47 PM
  5. Pacus1x's Avatar
    I have the Xperia SP and my brother have the Xperia Z1... and leaving aside the wide hardware gap, there is no much difference software wise between both phones. So i can safely say that my brother Xperia Z1 is the bigger version of my Xperia SP.

    If you need certain apps, i think is better to make some suggestions.
    Last edited by Pacus1x; 06-25-2014 at 02:27 PM.
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    06-25-2014 01:50 PM
  6. binnyandrews's Avatar
    I don't consider a bigger 520....it is a bigger 930. Literally it is.

    Exactly thats what I am saying.. it is literally bigger than 520, 630, 720, 820 920, 930, 1020 and capable of doing better things, but what is the use if there are no applications that take advantage of the bigger screen and 2GB RAM. By the way I am not a gamer, i don't play even solitaire in this, and never watch movies- it is just for the official purpose only. I do listen to music but the current in house music app does not take advantage of the screen size. I believe MS needs to rewrite the OS for this phone to take advantage of the screen size and other hardware.
    06-25-2014 02:01 PM
  7. Blacklac's Avatar
    There are Apps or features in Apps that only work on the newer Snapdragon quad core CPU's. But I agree, there's not much special to take advantage of the added screen size.

    Gamers will always suffer as long as WP is big in emerging markets.
    06-25-2014 02:18 PM
  8. Rawliglat x's Avatar
    I dont really see any much of a big added advantages (maybe exclude stylus) with phablets in general.
    I dont really know of any special android apps written for phablets.
    Phablets are mostly big sized phones.
    06-25-2014 04:46 PM
  9. xandros9's Avatar
    This Phablet is a fantastic one when it come to the hardware. But from the OS perspective this is a just another LUMIA520 with a front camera and 6" display. There are no specific software's built for this model. As a business user, i expect at least couple of software delicately written for the 1520 that differs it from other Lumias. MS seems least bothered about it but busy in promoting Android. May be it is time to switch to Nokia XL or Samy.

    Seems like death of a masterpiece hardware from Nokia!!!! Poorer are those who bought it!!!
    Well, not exactly, it has higher end internals, obviously, and that goes a long way. It has features the 520 does not. Glance? not on the 520.
    It also benefits from 1 GB+ RAM only apps, such as Nokia Beamer, which is not available on the lower-end devices.

    (Nokia XL, I laugh)
    06-25-2014 09:03 PM
  10. thatuxguy's Avatar
    Windows Phone is just the OS, which runs on multiple devices. Its down to the app devs to make use of specific devices.

    Apps which take advantage of the larger screen are things Office and Photo editing apps. As a business user surely you would not want to use office on a screen lower than 5"? The 6" screen is perfect for this when out and about. It provides a clear working environment. What are you expecting to see on the device? Do you even know yourself?

    Also spec wise, Micah Dawson was correct. The 1520 is basically the Lumia 930. They have the same hardware, minus the screen size and the SD card slot.

    Nokia XL, is see as a entry into the WP platform for the Android users. Its meant to guide them into a the much better WP devices.
    Samsung's are full of bloatware, and give it a month will LAG like there is 128mb RAM in the device!

    I really don't see how Nokia/Microsoft are treating the 1520 as a lower spec device.
    06-26-2014 04:03 AM
  11. Pete's Avatar
    I think it's just binny who is treating the 1520 as a lower spec device.

    The point is that Windows Phone OS is engineered to give a great experience on all levels of hardware. The system will be smooth and fluid on a 520 as much as 1520 and won't suffer from lag in the same way that different android devices might.

    That being said, the large HD screen (at least for me personally) is a big plus. Browsing the internet isn't the scrolling/squinting effort that it was before on a smaller screen. I can enjoy websites in full desktop mode without them being mangled up (or being forced to use mobile mode). For business use, reading emails/documents is so much better on a larger higher resolution screen, the new calendar in WP8.1 looks so smart & crisp.

    At the end of the day, people have a great amount of choice in what device they'd want to use, both in terms of price point and size/features - the OS works great on all of them.

    Buy yes, I agree that app developers for text and information based apps could work a little more in engineering UI for high resolution screens.
    06-26-2014 08:56 AM
  12. binnyandrews's Avatar
    First of all I would like to say L1520 is not a Phone but a Phablet - Phone+Tablet. The title of this discussion is due to the manufacturer is treating L1520 as a phone.
    Secondly - I never said L1520 is a lower spec device. I repeat it is a fabulous device when it come to the hardware. The OS and applications needs to be tweaked to make use of this beautiful hardware as a phablet not as a phone.
    My smartphone usage starts with Microsoft Windows Mobile 6 (imate). The last WM6.5 phone used was HTC HD2 ( i had dual boot of WM6.5 and Android in this device but never liked Android) and that is before switching over to L800 WP7.5 - you know what happened to the WP7.5 development but still been with Microsoft and then switch over to L820. Finally arrived in L1520.

    Now coming to the point of topic...

    As per Wikipedia....

    In 2013, Nokia introduced phablets, the Nokia Lumia 1320 and Nokia Lumia 1520, both with 6-inch displays.

    Examples of phablets with screens surpassing 6 inches in size began appearing in 2013; with the Chinese company Huawei unveiling its 6.1 in (150 mm) Ascend Mate at Consumer Electronics Show, and Samsung introducing the Galaxy Mega, a phablet with a 6.3 in (160 mm) version (unlike the Galaxy Note models, it does not use a stylus).[6][28][29] In mid-2013 the Japanese company Sony unveiled its 6.4 in (160 mm) Xperia Z Ultra; marketed as "the world's slimmest Full HD smartphone",[30] it is rated for IP55/58 dust and water protection and compensates for the lack of a bundled stylus by allowing users to take notes or draw on with a regular pen or pencil.[31][32] As a variation of the concept, Asus and Samsung also released otherwise small-sized tablets, the FonePad, Galaxy Note 8.0 and Galaxy Tab 3 8.0, with cellular connectivity and the ability to place voice calls.[33] In January 2014, Hewlett Packard launched their VoicePad products with 6" and 7" screens.[34]



    Have a comparison of the in house apps provided by the manufacturer of Note 3 and L1520. I am not discussing of the paid store application though i bought a bunch of the paid applications like - WPCentrel, Advanced English Dictionary, Birthdays+, Handyscan, Moliplayer Pro, Nextgen Reader, Pocket File Manager, Polyscreen, Stop+Clear, Sysapp Pusher, etc..


    I believe that apps like Handyscan is supposed to be an in house app of L1520 - not a developer one.
    Look at the Stop+Clear - why we need this app if in house music app is able to self exit from the task-bar - i know this is not only for L1520 but for all WP's.
    Look at Moliplayer - L1520 is being a phablet, the in house video app should be able to play all kinds of videos- again i know this is not only for L1520 but for all WP's.
    Sysapp Pusher - I am glad that MS has given an option in store to check and update the installed apps - WP8.1 only

    Not having a stylus - I understand that we don't need this as long as we can make it with finger tips.

    May be i am feeling this because i do have an L820 phone which runs the same apps and WP8. The only difference i am feeling between these two (L820 being phone and L1520 being phablet) are L1520 screen size and camera!!! But, it is very worth to say that with L1520 Nokia / MS has done a pretty good job at the hardware and unique design, they bridged the gap between Phone and Tablet. The look and style is very appealing. Though it does not poses a stylus, it has a premium look and feel.
    So the conclusion here is - This is the best phablet (hardware wise) that i have ever used. Love the look and feel. Specifically the battery is awesome - easily two days in 3G network with prolonged voice usage of 2.5 to 3 hours per day. My concern here is Microsoft needs to treat and develop L1520 as a phablet not as a phone as they do with SP. Hope I am loud and clear.

    By the way - L1520 has glance as well compared to L930!!!!
    Last edited by binnyandrews; 06-26-2014 at 10:08 AM.
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    06-26-2014 09:50 AM
  13. thatuxguy's Avatar
    I don't think any of us need you 1st grade education on mobile devices.

    Once again the primary apps that BUSINESS users use, are also the features that Nokia and MS pushed that benefit the device. That being Office and photo editing.

    Your issue is with the app developers, they are the ones developing the apps for the WP devices. Seeing as the 1520 audience is quite a small percentage they will see no need to optimise their apps.

    You need to remember:-
    Android covers tablets, phones, TV's, cars, etc.
    iOS covers iPad, iPhone. (mainly)
    Windows Phone covers... urrrm Windows Phone. There is no tablet version, that would be Windows.

    Microsoft don't need to treat it any differently, otherwise they would of made the Surface RT a windows phone base OS.
    06-26-2014 11:48 AM
  14. binnyandrews's Avatar
    My little knowledge tells me a Business card reader app is a PRIMARY app for a BUSINESS phone which is supposed to be an in house app. Thanks developers you us this in the store.
    06-26-2014 12:45 PM
  15. meddyrainzo's Avatar
    I totally understand the OPs point. There is no ground breaking difference between the L1520 and the L920(The 520 is too low end hardware wise). No stylus support, no air gesture support, no note taking support, no dual screen multitasking....It performs the same task as low end WPs. The only thing the 1520 can boast of is the screen size.

    Hopefully another Phablet(even if it has a 5.5" screen) is released along with the McLaren with stylus support and special software to make it more than just a "big phone"
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    06-26-2014 01:18 PM
  16. Rawliglat x's Avatar
    I see your point, its that L1520 should have differentiated features.
    Firstly I'm going to tell you, it does have. But before i beat down on that I should mention that apart from the bigger screens, phablets dont have any drastic differences in comparison with a regular smartphone (and I can say the same for tablets, but that's besides the point).

    The only big advantages I would say an android phablet is the stylus function and "maybe" the multitasking. And these characteristics are only synonymous to the note 3. Devices like Xperia Z Ultra and One Max don't possess such functions.

    At the end of the day they run same OS and same apps as any regular (android) smartphone. But where the difference come into play is how they utilize the OS.
    Given their (usually) better specs and bigger screen, the apps seems to perform better on them. And don't forget some apps require a certain amount of RAM to run. Also with tasks like browsing the net and reading on the go, you would derive much greater satisfaction owning such devices.

    So at the beginning I said I would tell you the differentiated features the Lumia 1520 has over the 520, here they are:
    The up comping Miracast
    Sunlight readability
    (Cant think of more right now)

    Those might not seem like much, but compared to android phones like one max, its a huge step.
    Also, to add more point, the way it renders is much better apps is much better in comparison to other smartphones. The problem is some developers don't develop their apps to utilize this beast. But when you do things like reading and surfing the net, the experience doesn't get any better.

    And about your "lack of stylus support" maybe I dont get what you mean, but the L1520 very much supports a stylus (maybe with limited functions). It just doesn't come with one out of the box.
    <3 <3 Oh that big beast they call a battery <3 <3

    I think the aim of Microsoft at this point isnt to create a more differentiated environment, but to produce a unified environment where all your devices can interact flawlessly. And you can use your favorite apps across all your devices.
    06-26-2014 02:16 PM
  17. Dietrich Cleijne's Avatar
    There might not be 1520 specific software in this machine, but there is specific 1520 hardware in it.
    And that hardware beats the crap out of most other smartphones, not even mentioning the enormous battery life the gigantic screen and the camera.
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    06-27-2014 06:07 AM
  18. Dominik Dominik's Avatar
    I think OP has a good point. MS should at least enable split screen for native apps like IE, office, skype ... Right now the only real reason to buy L1520 over L930 is for the battery (L1520 is the only Nokia smartphone with decent battery IMO).
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    06-27-2014 11:02 AM
  19. Rawliglat x's Avatar
    Right now the only real reason to buy L1520 over L930 is for the battery
    I think that is the whole point.
    L1520 was released and it didn't appeal to some users because of the size so Nokia made it in a smaller size, the LIcon/L930.
    They are meant to be the exact same phone in different sizes (Kudos to Nokia for giving us size variants), so "every" customer could have the top Nokia hardware.

    On other words, L930/LIcon = Big L1520.
    Nokia customers asked for this, so....
    06-27-2014 11:28 AM
  20. Paul May's Avatar
    I know AT&T is meant to be re-releasing the 1520 in the US in green. Maybe we will see something software wise from them then. Also, while the apps may not differ much between the Nokia devices you should understand that the Nokia made apps are a big advantage over getting another brand of phone. I use Nokia maps and Drive+ daily without any issues.
    06-27-2014 12:25 PM
  21. rory753's Avatar
    The absolute only thing I think shoud have been redesigned for the 6" phablets is the keyboard, or allow 3rd party keyboards to be installed. while I was fine with it, my wife went back to the 925 specifically because of the keyboard. somethings shouldn't be just upscaled.
    06-27-2014 12:33 PM
  22. Pierre Blackwell's Avatar
    I guess I'm not quite understanding your statement. The appeal of the 1520 is the size of the screen first and foremost. I finally gave up my 920 because of that and in retrospect it does come with a better camera. The third tile in 8.1 really shines on the 1520 as well. It takes advantage of some of the more detailed games because of it's 1080p screen. Not to mention the SD slot is really nice to have. I guess my questions is why would you want to have dedicated software for a device thats purpose really is to project the OS on a larger screen?
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    06-27-2014 12:51 PM
  23. Dietrich Cleijne's Avatar
    I think that is the whole point.
    L1520 was released and it didn't appeal to some users because of the size so Nokia made it in a smaller size, the LIcon/L930.
    They are meant to be the exact same phone in different sizes (Kudos to Nokia for giving us size variants), so "every" customer could have the top Nokia hardware.

    On other words, L930/LIcon = Big L1520.
    Nokia customers asked for this, so....
    Then why is it still being manufactured?
    The 1520 is the best Windows Phone period.
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    06-27-2014 01:22 PM
  24. Rawliglat x's Avatar
    Then why is it still being manufactured?
    Well like I said earlier, when L1520 was brought out, some people complained the it was a perfect phone but the size was just too big for them to get onboard. For this reason Nokia decided to create a smaller version for such people.
    But that is just "some people". There are still a lot of people (like me and probably you) who prefer the bigger size and the L1520 is still in production for such people.
    Nokia is known for its variations. They try to make a phone of all grades and specs to appease all customers.


    The 1520 is the best Windows Phone period.
    Well that is pretty much subjective. Only 3 differences (I know of ) between the L1520 and the L930.
    1. Glance screen support (of which it would no longer be updated).
    2. Memory card.
    3. Size.

    If you don't use glance screen and a 32Gb memory card is sufficient for you (of which there are lots of people), the question of a "better phone" becomes solely dependent on your size preference. I know people who would never consider the L1520.
    If you prefer smaller phones, L930 wins.
    If you prefer bigger phones (phablet) L1520 wins.

    I personally go with L1520, but again thats subjective.
    06-27-2014 01:54 PM
  25. Pierre Blackwell's Avatar
    The split screen functionality on the Galaxy Note 3 seemed a little congested even though it is a nice feature to have. I like the feature on Windows 8.1 on my ASUS T100 because now you're talking about a 10"+ screen which gives the extra space to get a full peripheral effect. The crisp display is the biggest advantage. I love playing Spartan assault or Modern Warfare 4 on my 1520. The fact that it's not too thick or about the same weight as the 920 is an amazing convenience. Air gestures and the stylus are a great thing, but those are luxuries that you really don't need on the 1520, especially with 8.1 and you can take down notes using your finger or a stylus. The size is going to continue to be the biggest dilemma for those looking at the 1520 to replace their current phone. You're limited on where you can store it, most pockets aren't deep enough, and for some holding that colossal phone to your ear may seem too foreign.
    06-27-2014 02:50 PM
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