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  1. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Since I am new to windows and to this thread as well, I am still getting a hang around of how stuff works.
    Besides, that para in the end was in the hope that someone from MS will be reading it and may be work towards the psychology of such needs.
    This site has no official affiliation with Microsoft, so we have no idea if they read anything posted here. You might want to try this link: Feature Suggestions: Hot (55769 ideas) – Feature Suggestions for Windows Phone
    06-30-2014 09:33 AM
  2. Jcmg62's Avatar
    Hi Nirraj

    Sorry to hear that your 1520 experience hasn't been as great as it could be.

    As I'm sure a lot of folk here have pointed out, a huge amount of the issues you've flagged up are sorted out in W8.1 and will continue to improve with future OS updates. I've been using Windows Phone since the Metro/Tile rebirth (WP7 Lumia 800 and HTC Trophy) and I can honestly say that the system just keeps getting better and better with every update. Microsoft really are listening to their customers and are refining the OS all the time.

    I'm a Lumia 1520 user myself and appreciate it can take some getting used to. But it really is an awesome phone. The reason I chose it (apart from the amazing HD screen) is because it has the best, latest and most powerful hardware of just about any other Windows Phone, which means you should be eligible for software updates for a looooooooong time to come.

    I hope you stick with the platform and enjoy Windows 8.1 when it arrive sin the next week or two :-)
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    06-30-2014 10:19 AM
  3. willstoc's Avatar
    How do you feel about the size of the 1520, and its photographic capability with 20 mpx?
    06-30-2014 11:32 AM
  4. aximtreo's Avatar
    Hey Folks...

    Having used this for 10 days...all I can say is the more I use Lumia 1520, the more I hate it. Nokia & Microsoft need to understand that they just cant sell phones based on hardware itself. Features like privacy on Toast notifications, volumes control on player, folder play in music are necessary and make user feel at home.
    Sadly, they not only lag far behind in apps but in providing favorable user interface with applications as well. We don't only need screens and battery, but basic settings that make life easier.

    Few negative aspects of Lumia 1520..or as a matter of fact....all Windows device- (I have excluded those issues that will be rectified to some extent in windows 8.1 official update.)

    1. No folder wise music play and on top of that, no search option to get to your favorite song.
    2. No Volume control either on music player or in Video player.
    3. You cannot drag the bar to FW or RW a song or video.
    4. No option to hide the toast notifications that crop up everytime a message arrives killing your privacy and also the screen comes alive. I have seen threads, where people negated notifications lights on other devices getting them irritated every now and then. But atleast, there is only blinking light and the screen wouldn't come alive. Besides, that notification will come in background, thereby not affecting your current work and respecting your privacy (You have the options for these in Android and iOS).
    5. No separate volume control for ringtones and media players. One will have to adjust it everytime while switching applications.
    6. No option to sort the videos list date wise. I know one will have applications in store for these things but isn't it obvious that stock players shall come with these basic features.
    7. No inbuilt equalizer in the music player. You will have to go to different settings for that. Now isn't this pathetic and tidy. This is basic requirement for any music player.
    8. No option to set a downloaded application as default application for a particular task, for which it was downloaded. For e.g. even if you download a different browser, any link in any message will only open in the Internet explorer.
    9. Too sensitive screen which opens applications even when you were just scrolling past it.
    10. No smart dialing. You need to go to People everytime you search for a contact.
    11. Call history only displays name and not number. If you have saved multiple nos for same person, you will have to open every call history to see what no you called.
    Plus there are plenty other small glitches as well, a presence of which would have made your life easier using the phone.

    MS will have to understand the concept of selling mobile and have to bring in newer brain heads that will think in that direction, MINUTELY. I cannot ask a bike mechanic to work on a car thinking that they both are just engines and are used for transport.
    Every small details needs to be paid attention to. They are late with updates and launches and still when they are out, they miss these basic functionalities. I guess they are too busy tightening their security on the OS, but they will have to realize, if there are no users they will have nothing to protect.

    Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play.

    Again it needs to be pointed out. A little pre-purchase research would have made these "short comings" known to you and you could have saved your money and our time.
    06-30-2014 12:15 PM
  5. Jan Tomsic's Avatar
    They are late with updates and launches
    Not really, WP8.1 is barely starting to be officially released yet it has more users (relatively) than Android Kitkat because of developers preview (which works about 98% as good as official stable release).
    Most of those problems are fixed in WP8.1, you actually have more control over toasts and notifications than on android now. Give it a shot, it's free and costs nothing. And you don't need to fiddle with custom recoveries and bootloaders.

    Besides the issues already addressed in WP8.1, as pointed out by others:
    6. videos by date: there's Files, the official file manager app, which lets you sort anything by date, so you may find it useful to browse videos, I think it requires WP8.1, but I'm not sure. If you shot videos with your phone, then they're going to be sorted by date with other photos in Camera roll.
    7. there's one in settings, find the best setting for your earphones and leave it as it is. This is really a preference, not as much of an issue. Someone made a choice to make it like that. They could've added a link to EQ from the music app though, I agree with that, but making it work separately for system and music app, that's a bit overkill.
    8. That's true, but all browsers are built around IE engine, so the websites are displayed the same way. I like IE, it's pretty fast, and it got improved on 8.1
    9. Screen is sensitive so you can use it with gloves, you can turn the extra sensitivity off though in settings.
    10. this one truly is a pickle, but it gets somewhat better with 8.1 and theres a big chance that someone you're calling is in your (recent) history, so just scroll down a little. I'd like the T9 smar dialing as well though.
    11. on 8.1 it displays 'home' or 'mobile' next to the name, that's really good enough, if you have your contacts organized properly.

    If you don't like it that's on you really, return or sell it, don't go attacking the whole comunity. If you want answers to questions and some help transitioning into WP, adjust your tone and ask nicely.

    I hope you end up liking it, it's a really great phone and OS.
    06-30-2014 01:13 PM
  6. Mario Flamenco's Avatar
    A replacement for MX player (maybe not as good tho) on WP is Moliplayer, give it a try, maybe it will work for you :)

    MoliPlayer Pro | Windows Phone Apps+Games Store (United States)
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    06-30-2014 03:56 PM
  7. james7679's Avatar
    I have to ask, in your pre-purchase research, what features about this lovely marvel of modern technology caught your eye? How are you enjoying THOSE features?

    Backseat driving is easy. Are you a dev? Do you do any programming? I don't get the mentality that some folks have adopted; "its not what I am used to so it sucks".

    I can honestly say, that, its shortcomings aside, this is the best phone I have ever used. If all products were the same, there would never be a need for innovation. If you want to be cattle, then be cattle. But don't use something for 10 days and think you're an expert.
    Sent from my Lumia 1520 using Tapatalk
    06-30-2014 04:49 PM
  8. Moiz Mian's Avatar
    Have you tried 8.1 yet? I think you should re-review the device after playing with 8.1. Most of your problems should be alleviated.
    06-30-2014 06:47 PM
  9. nirraj's Avatar
    Hi Nirraj

    Sorry to hear that your 1520 experience hasn't been as great as it could be.

    As I'm sure a lot of folk here have pointed out, a huge amount of the issues you've flagged up are sorted out in W8.1 and will continue to improve with future OS updates. I've been using Windows Phone since the Metro/Tile rebirth (WP7 Lumia 800 and HTC Trophy) and I can honestly say that the system just keeps getting better and better with every update. Microsoft really are listening to their customers and are refining the OS all the time.

    I'm a Lumia 1520 user myself and appreciate it can take some getting used to. But it really is an awesome phone. The reason I chose it (apart from the amazing HD screen) is because it has the best, latest and most powerful hardware of just about any other Windows Phone, which means you should be eligible for software updates for a looooooooong time to come.

    I hope you stick with the platform and enjoy Windows 8.1 when it arrive sin the next week or two :-)
    Hi There.... There is no doubt that this phone is one of its kind and I am going to stick with it for a long time.
    And I am desperately hoping that WP 8.1 sweeps away most of the glitches....Eagerly awaiting its arrival..!!!!
    06-30-2014 11:12 PM
  10. nirraj's Avatar
    How do you feel about the size of the 1520, and its photographic capability with 20 mpx?
    Honestly..Its not that big. After using it for 2 weeks, when i look at the screen of even a 5" phone..it seems I am looking at iphone 4. I am driving bike comfortably with phone sitting nicely inside the pockets.
    On the camera part, it's amazing. I mean i have never seen a phone taking so excellent pictures, specially in the low light. The bigger camera sensors (1/2.5") assist in taking great memories.
    06-30-2014 11:17 PM
  11. Judas20's Avatar
    Guess what OS currently has ~80% of its market and is also commonly called the most insecure OS in the world?
    How many security issues have you faced with Windows upto this date?
    07-01-2014 01:21 AM
  12. colinkiama's Avatar
    No matter how bad it is..I am not going back to Lag-droid. I have suffered heavily on its slow performance. Windows was a new approach and maybe 5 years of Android use made me expect if not more, then at par with it.
    But things do take time and I would like to give MS that time, may be an year or so to make me feel that the decision to switch to windows was genuine (in the long run).


    For the equalizer part, I keep changing the headphone/earphones and thus need that setting frequently.

    But one thing that i desperately need from MS is to view music files in folders or provide Poweramp player in store along with MX player for videos.
    Stop living in the past, android is not slow anymore, get a new android device and stop struggling.
    07-01-2014 03:04 AM
  13. winboy's Avatar
    I love my 1520. Best phone I've ever owned. Moved from Android and it was the best move have ever made!
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    07-01-2014 06:00 AM
  14. Shobin Drogan's Avatar
    I do agree all of what you said in 8.0 but honestly dude, if these things matter so much to you, you couldve just spent that time updating your phone instead of writing all of this.
    I don't mean to be rude, but im just stating something that couldve been easily avoided, 8.1 dev preview has 0 drawbacks, only difference is that you get everything way sooner than the actual update.
    Rodrigo Mendes likes this.
    07-01-2014 06:05 AM
  15. rex.reyesiii's Avatar
    my reply to this thread(re: marketshare) is this:

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    When WP tries they die LOL. :)
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    07-01-2014 06:37 AM
  16. Rodrigo Mendes's Avatar
    Hey Folks...

    Having used this for 10 days...all I can say is the more I use Lumia 1520, the more I hate it. Nokia & Microsoft need to understand that they just cant sell phones based on hardware itself. Features like privacy on Toast notifications, volumes control on player, folder play in music are necessary and make user feel at home.
    Sadly, they not only lag far behind in apps but in providing favorable user interface with applications as well. We don't only need screens and battery, but basic settings that make life easier.

    Few negative aspects of Lumia 1520..or as a matter of fact....all Windows device- (I have excluded those issues that will be rectified to some extent in windows 8.1 official update.)

    1. No folder wise music play and on top of that, no search option to get to your favorite song.
    2. No Volume control either on music player or in Video player.
    3. You cannot drag the bar to FW or RW a song or video.
    4. No option to hide the toast notifications that crop up everytime a message arrives killing your privacy and also the screen comes alive. I have seen threads, where people negated notifications lights on other devices getting them irritated every now and then. But atleast, there is only blinking light and the screen wouldn't come alive. Besides, that notification will come in background, thereby not affecting your current work and respecting your privacy (You have the options for these in Android and iOS).
    5. No separate volume control for ringtones and media players. One will have to adjust it everytime while switching applications.
    6. No option to sort the videos list date wise. I know one will have applications in store for these things but isn't it obvious that stock players shall come with these basic features.
    7. No inbuilt equalizer in the music player. You will have to go to different settings for that. Now isn't this pathetic and tidy. This is basic requirement for any music player.
    8. No option to set a downloaded application as default application for a particular task, for which it was downloaded. For e.g. even if you download a different browser, any link in any message will only open in the Internet explorer.
    9. Too sensitive screen which opens applications even when you were just scrolling past it.
    10. No smart dialing. You need to go to People everytime you search for a contact.
    11. Call history only displays name and not number. If you have saved multiple nos for same person, you will have to open every call history to see what no you called.
    Plus there are plenty other small glitches as well, a presence of which would have made your life easier using the phone.

    MS will have to understand the concept of selling mobile and have to bring in newer brain heads that will think in that direction, MINUTELY. I cannot ask a bike mechanic to work on a car thinking that they both are just engines and are used for transport.
    Every small details needs to be paid attention to. They are late with updates and launches and still when they are out, they miss these basic functionalities. I guess they are too busy tightening their security on the OS, but they will have to realize, if there are no users they will have nothing to protect.
    1- Maybe after WP8.1 changes, more and better players (with folder option) will came to MS Store.
    2. Just adapt yourself. WP8.1 bring sepparated controls, anyway. Not in app, but you will have at your hand. And you have buttons to do it.
    3. 8.1 have this feature.
    4. 8.1 have it too.
    5. Again, 8.1 brings this feature.
    6. Yeah, store have a plenty of apps to do it. And is exactly why is there.
    7. Don't disagree here, but you REALLY change your equalize settings too often? You're really need this feature on music app? And it's Nokia feature, so that never happens.
    8. This is not a PC. And hopefully never be.
    9. 1520 have a sensitive bug. Will be fix.
    10. Again, in store you will find a dozen of apps with this and much more feature.
    11. 8.1 bring some news for it.


    Windows Phone is not a mature system yet. We all agree with that. But Android took at least 4 years to become acceptable and have a minimum - just a minimum - of stability. Windows Phone have it in the DAY ONE.

    Windows Phone is not perfect, need more feature, more APIs, have a lot less feature than rivals, but 8.1 brings a whole new world. And in 3 years the system is really close to get the mature that needs.

    Microsoft have did a very good job with Windows Phone. It's very hard begin in the end of the game and Microsoft made it. But don't expect that system have all features yet.
    Last edited by Rodrigo Mendes; 07-01-2014 at 07:29 AM.
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    07-01-2014 07:15 AM
  17. Rodrigo Mendes's Avatar
    Stop living in the past, android is not slow anymore, get a new android device and stop struggling.
    Yeah, but still VERY unstable (even with tops, but most common in low and midranges) and have a very bad memmory management yet. And this is a VERY old problem. A 6 years problem.

    So, the perfect world don't exist.
    07-01-2014 07:32 AM
  18. nirraj's Avatar
    I do agree all of what you said in 8.0 but honestly dude, if these things matter so much to you, you couldve just spent that time updating your phone instead of writing all of this.
    I don't mean to be rude, but im just stating something that couldve been easily avoided, 8.1 dev preview has 0 drawbacks, only difference is that you get everything way sooner than the actual update.
    There is a risk of getting your warranty void if you install the developer version of 8.1. I am desperate for these features to kick in, but not desperate to risk a $700 device. I will rather wait.
    The only point is asking for obvious basic features in a flagship device..!!!
    07-01-2014 08:01 AM
  19. nirraj's Avatar
    Stop living in the past, android is not slow anymore, get a new android device and stop struggling.
    That's exactly the problem with Lag-Droids...They perform excellent in the beginning and as you go along using the device..It starts showing true colors...The last device I used ran on Android 4.3 and still there were issues. Any application will take ages to launch...and this is where I love windows. No matter how long you have been using it..or how many applications are being run in the background..It never runs out of breath and charms you everytime with its speed to handle everything thrown at it.
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    07-01-2014 08:09 AM
  20. michail71's Avatar
    Has there ever been a reported case of a warranty being voided for running an official preview? I find it to be unlikely. I did a warranty claim once with a hacked firmware and had zero issues.
    07-01-2014 08:13 AM
  21. Will6371's Avatar
    Has there ever been a reported case of a warranty being voided for running an official preview? I find it to be unlikely. I did a warranty claim once with a hacked firmware and had zero issues.
    I spoke to a guy from Nokia repair centre and asked him and he said that if a service tech said that 8.1 voided the warranty then it was one of two things, either he doesn't know what he is talking about or he is lying. He said that if a phone came in for repair then it would be flashed back to 8.0 only because they can't flash it with 8.1

    Also asked my friend who works for a well know phone shop/provider in the UK and he said the same.
    07-01-2014 12:14 PM
  22. Jan Tomsic's Avatar
    For the equalizer part, I keep changing the headphone/earphones and thus need that setting frequently.
    Me too, but I just keep the EQ on flat. And it doesn't work with bluetooth headphones anyway, and I use those the most. You get used to it :)

    And 8.1 preview comes directly from M$, it's not some shady ROM that actually may break your phone. Except for some minor bugs and a reboot every now and then, everything is working as it should on my 925. The official update should be out very soon, so you might as well wait, but installing the preview will not void your warranty. If you do go for the preview, I recommend factory resetting the phone after the update, it's much faster after that.

    You're right about lagdroids :D Though everyone is telling me 'you can't compare Nexus 7 2012 to 925' but then why is my 925 (1 year old model based on 2 year old hardware) running much smoother than just 6 months older Nexus 7? No matter what you do on WP, pressing start will open Start and you can call someone from there in matter of seconds. On Nexus 7 I wait even 10 seconds just to open the homescreen, which is not even complicated (just one page with only 1 widget and 12 icons really).
    I guess the newest androids are better, I haven't tried any yet, but I don't think android phone that costs the same as my 925 did would be this fast.
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    07-01-2014 12:48 PM
  23. Will6371's Avatar
    Me too, but I just keep the EQ on flat. And it doesn't work with bluetooth headphones anyway, and I use those the most. You get used to it :)

    And 8.1 preview comes directly from M$, it's not some shady ROM that actually may break your phone. Except for some minor bugs and a reboot every now and then, everything is working as it should on my 925. The official update should be out very soon, so you might as well wait, but installing the preview will not void your warranty. If you do go for the preview, I recommend factory resetting the phone after the update, it's much faster after that.

    You're right about lagdroids :D Though everyone is telling me 'you can't compare Nexus 7 2012 to 925' but then why is my 925 (1 year old model based on 2 year old hardware) running much smoother than just 6 months older Nexus 7? No matter what you do on WP, pressing start will open Start and you can call someone from there in matter of seconds. On Nexus 7 I wait even 10 seconds just to open the homescreen, which is not even complicated (just one page with only 1 widget and 12 icons really).
    I guess the newest androids are better, I haven't tried any yet, but I don't think android phone that costs the same as my 925 did would be this fast.
    I wouldn't bet on it, I have spent a weekend with an Xperia Z2 and a day with an S5 and they both lag and stutter.
    07-01-2014 01:22 PM
  24. manicottiK's Avatar
    1. No folder wise music play...
    Alas, the world has moved on -- blame Apple and the success of the first generation iPod for moving many folks from folder location playback to MP3 tags and playlists. Android may be one of the last platforms providing a built-in media player with the option to play back via file location.
    07-01-2014 02:43 PM
  25. DaT Franchise's Avatar
    I wouldn't bet on it, I have spent a weekend with an Xperia Z2 and a day with an S5 and they both lag and stutter.
    Change the launcher on the s5, no more lag
    07-01-2014 02:53 PM
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