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  1. twint7787's Avatar
    Ok, so my family will be switching from Verizon to TMobile and I need some help making a decision. For those who have a 1520.3 how is the reception (anyone live in the NY area?), are there any hardware issues that I should be aware of (I know there are some issues with the 1520 concerning the screen), and what version of the OS are you on. Basically it is either I buy this phone or I wait a month and buy the Note 4. I have used iOS, Android, and Windows Phone so no need to try and sway me either way I just want to know how your experience with the 1520.3 has been on TMo's network.

    Thank you!
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    09-23-2014 05:01 PM
  2. JamesPTao's Avatar
    Ok, so my family will be switching from Verizon to TMobile and I need some help making a decision. For those who have a 1520.3 how is the reception (anyone live in the NY area?), are there any hardware issues that I should be aware of (I know there are some issues with the 1520 concerning the screen), and what version of the OS are you on. Basically it is either I buy this phone or I wait a month and buy the Note 4. I have used iOS, Android, and Windows Phone so no need to try and sway me either way I just want to know how your experience with the 1520.3 has been on TMo's network.

    Thank you!
    From the reviews I have seen and many many forum comments the 1520 seems to be not only the best windows phone but for many the best phone they have ever owned. The only downfall most list is size which if you want a phablet isn't a problem. The screen issue I have heard with some. I have owned over 10 Nokia phones and they all have great reception (it os one of the things Nokia has a reputation for). And the battery life is supposed to be fantastic allowing the user to truly use new features like Cortana extensively and still get over a days use. The 1520.3 adds the features at&t stripped out. From what I have seen ot seems like a great choice. I have been researching it for a while as I plan on buying a new phone in November and have decided after researching it that I am getting the 1520.3 as well. Hope this helps.
    09-23-2014 05:13 PM
  3. RumoredNow's Avatar
    My 1520.3 on T-MoUS gets reception as well as any other phone I've put on this service (Nexus 4, Lumia 521, 925 & 1520.3). HOWEVER, T-Mo is known to have frequencies that don't penetrate buildings well; so they have come up with WiFi calling to help when indoors. If you run a phone NOT T-Mo branded, you can not get WiFi Calling; many see that as a deal breaker. I've not been on T-Mo in NYC, but would imagine WiFi calling being a huge boon there...

    I've not seen any screen issues on my phone yet after about 5 weeks.

    The phone has official 8.1 + Lumia Cyan Firmware and if you get a BNIB model you can easily update to that. Also, as a factory unlocked device it should get updates quicker since there is no wait for carrier approval.

    My experience with 1520.3 has been very good. LOVE the screen. I tend to favor IPS over AMOLED, even though AMOLED has neat tricks with not lighting black pixels it just seems too... over the top and Samsung screens revel in that over-saturation. My wife is a big Samsung fan and I see her screens all the time. The 1520.3 has all the battery life you've been hearing about. I don't bother with battery saver concerns and keep my brightness maxed w/ auto engaged. I really am not limiting background use either and get 2 days + easily.

    ​Do your research about T-Mo in NY and how much WiFi calling is needed. That would be my only reservation.
    09-23-2014 06:28 PM
  4. AvatarEW's Avatar
    RumoredNow provides excellent and cogent points.

    I have a 1520.3 on T-Mobile and live in the middle of Long Island, NY. All carrier signals barely reach my house (two bars) because I happen to live in a dead spot for all carriers (fine for every provider approximately after half a mile travel in any direction. LOL @me)

    I have a work associate who was forced to move from T-Mobile to Verizon because he had no signal where he lived north of NYC closer to his job in CT. Metropolitan NYC no issue as the coverage is great and fast even in the boroughs. Long Island coverage is also good in my area.

    The Note 4 is attractive to me. However, I am precluded from purchasing due to a significant financial investment in the iOS and Windows Phone ecosystems and the four month old purchase of my white 1520.3.

    The real reason to get WiFi calling from T-Mobile for me is the excellent Asus RT-AC68U wireless router (200 USD on Amazon) provided for 25 USD.

    The only additional hardware issue to me is the WiFi. The 1520.3 WiFi appears weaker to me as my 1020 attains a stronger signal. I believe this lack of WiFi signal strength is attributable to the different WiFi chip in the 1520.3 which supports the wireless AC standard. Unfortunately, it appears this hardware does not function as efficiently as my 1020 with my Verizon provided Actiontec MI424WI wireless modem/router (only supports wireless b/g/n standard).

    Ultimately, due to the generally excellent T-Mobile coverage in NY, I believe this is a financial and ecosystem preference decision. I advise waiting until November when holidays deals will impact any purchase.
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    09-25-2014 07:48 AM
  5. ThePKReddy's Avatar
    Hmm... The service is unrelated to the devices you mentioned. They're both compatible with TMO. I'm running a Hong Kong variant. I get the same reception (minus LTE due to compatibility issues) as my friends with T-Mobile branded smartphones.
    09-25-2014 08:10 AM
  6. trekgraham's Avatar
    The question I wonder is how compatible is there Lumia 1520 on T-Mobile LTE network? Does it work on non refarmed LTE towers? Is there a T-Mobile version? If not then that means absolutely no Wi-Fi calling right?
    09-25-2014 08:18 AM
  7. phasar's Avatar
    That's a no brainer, the Note 4. The 1520 is just a large 920. Nothing about it is optimized to take advantage of it's huge screen. The Note 4 has state of the art hardware, and the software is optimized to take advantage of it's large screen. The defective screen on all 1520 devices has led many 1520 owners to switch to other phones. Plus, no one really knows where WP is heading, including Microsoft.
    Last edited by phasar; 09-25-2014 at 08:33 AM.
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    09-25-2014 08:20 AM
  8. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    The only additional hardware issue to me is the WiFi. The 1520.3 WiFi appears weaker to me as my 1020 attains a stronger signal.
    Both of my 1520.3s consistently reported fewer bars for cell and wi-fi compared to the 925 it replaced that my wife is using now (both on T-Mobile). Basically about one bar on each. I guess I should put a SIM in our 635 and 521 backups to see how it compares to them. I don't know if the 1520.3 is worse than most phones or the 925 is better than most phones.
    09-25-2014 09:40 AM
  9. jaimeastin's Avatar
    That's a no brainer, the Note 4. The 1520 is just a large 920. Nothing about it is optimized to take advantage of it's huge screen. The Note 4 has state of the art hardware, and the software is optimized to take advantage of it's large screen. The defective screen on all 1520 devices has led many 1520 owners to switch to other phones. Plus, no one really knows where WP is heading, including Microsoft.
    I just got a 1520, but still looking for that flagship to roll in... The 920 is just hard to match... All 1520 is a "small" and "cautious" with minor upgrades and no qi... With all that said... The M8 and the note phones are the first androids that got me wanted to go back to android for a while... Last time this happened, It was a 2nd Gen nexus tablet that I sold after a month and bought a dvp8...

    The m8 I'd just well designed... But the note.. We are talking about a beast of a phone... Really new or updated features... Features from the past like a stylus now that technology is right for it... My 1520 is nice, but I could and still will use my 920 as there is nothing really but a BBB bigger screen... The note is nice, but runs android...maybe Samsung will follow note and put windows on the note hardware... Like the android users who want Nokia hardware and not Microsoft OS... I want the hardware of the note, but not android... Personal preference.
    09-25-2014 10:02 AM
  10. RumoredNow's Avatar
    The question I wonder is how compatible is there Lumia 1520 on T-Mobile LTE network? Does it work on non refarmed LTE towers? Is there a T-Mobile version? If not then that means absolutely no Wi-Fi calling right?
    The 1520.3 has the required 1700 MHz band on the 3G/H+ radio for T-Mo coverage at all speeds up to and including LTE no matter where... There is no T-Mo Branded 1520... If your phone is not T-Mo Branded it will never get WiFi Calling.


    Both of my 1520.3s consistently reported fewer bars for cell and wi-fi compared to the 925 it replaced that my wife is using now (both on T-Mobile). Basically about one bar on each. I guess I should put a SIM in our 635 and 521 backups to see how it compares to them. I don't know if the 1520.3 is worse than most phones or the 925 is better than most phones.
    ​Funny... My 1520.3 seems to do about one bar better on cellular and one bar worse on WiFi than my 925 did.
    09-25-2014 10:22 AM
  11. RumoredNow's Avatar
    ...All 1520 is ...minor upgrades and no qi...
    That's just the AT&T model that has no Qi. The 1520.3 being discussed here has Qi Charging built in with no special case required. I just used it yesterday. I won't use it today as the battery is still pulling strong.
    09-25-2014 10:28 AM
  12. AvatarEW's Avatar
    That's a no brainer, the Note 4. The 1520 is just a large 920. Nothing about it is optimized to take advantage of it's huge screen. The Note 4 has state of the art hardware, and the software is optimized to take advantage of it's large screen. The defective screen on all 1520 devices has led many 1520 owners to switch to other phones. Plus, no one really knows where WP is heading, including Microsoft.
    I'm not sure if you're trolling or venting. I will address the venting:

    The only thing similarities between the 1520 and 920 is that they were designed by Nokia, the on-board memory capacity, and both were available on AT&T exclusively in the USA. You can look up the differences for yourself on Nokia's website or Wikipedia.

    You need to make the distinction clearer than "nothing about it". That statement is misleading. Windows Phone 8.1 does support full HD resolution otherwise 1520 and HTC One (M8) for Windows (that name!) would not be able to turn on.

    I agree with you concerning the screen.

    ​Such broad generalized statements concerning a multibillion world-wide organization...nothing further needs to be said.
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    09-25-2014 10:35 AM
  13. AvatarEW's Avatar
    Hmm... The service is unrelated to the devices you mentioned. They're both compatible with TMO. I'm running a Hong Kong variant. I get the same reception (minus LTE due to compatibility issues) as my friends with T-Mobile branded smartphones.
    The context per the requestor was T-Mobile service with the 1520.3 in NY. I provided my experience and explained that service was not an issue.
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    09-25-2014 10:38 AM
  14. Pierre Blackwell's Avatar
    Some obvious things you need to look at is the 1520 is close to a year old, so you know the Note4 will have better software/hardware from as specs perspective. I realm don't invest much in specs, especially dealing with Android. The 1520 is one of the best phones on the market. I will agree with optimization of the amazing 6" screen, but Denim and WP9 should do that. It is already the best display especially in sunlight. What you have to ask yourself is are you willing to deal with Androids OS over WP? I find both Android and iOS rather boring. Stagnant icons that don't tell me anything. I get the widgets, as I was once an Android user, but the lol and fluidity just doesn't compare and I'm not willing to compromise that. Cortana integration and with Threshold coming later this month, you can expect more.
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    09-25-2014 10:52 AM
  15. psoham777's Avatar
    I say 1520. My friend has note 3, it lags & if I am not mistaken, there's only a few improvements in note 4. If 1520 is old for you & if you are willing to wait, wait for 1520 successor, but that'll take time. 1520 is still the beast
    09-25-2014 10:58 AM
  16. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I do here that Snap (running side by side Apps on a split screen) is coming to WP. Certainly the 6" HD screen on the 1520 should be a candidate for this advance...
    09-25-2014 11:00 AM
  17. psoham777's Avatar
    Nice, I didn't knew that. Hope all the wps get it soon
    09-25-2014 11:36 AM
  18. salmanahmad's Avatar
    If you are buying either of the phones based on their reception, it's hard to say based on the fact that the Note 4 hasn't even released yet.

    I can't say much about reception, but I would have a lot more to say if the OP wanted a detailed initial comparison.

    But in short, the 1520 doesn't seem to have a whole lot of manufacturing issues that people have complained about however there was a particular touch issue where swipes we're occasionally registered as taps.

    It was extremely annoying to people but I believe a software update fixed it.

    Either way you go, 1520 and Note 4 are both great devices.
    09-25-2014 12:11 PM
  19. twint7787's Avatar
    Thanks for the reply's guys. And after much debate.... I'm going with the Nokia Lumia...635 lol. Sorry for being anticlimactic but I want to wait to see where WP is headed before I decide to commit again. I really enjoy WP and the 635 will be compatible with Tmo right out of the box and have 8.1; both huge pluses for me.
    Its relatively inexpensive and would rather not waist time buying a low end Android phone as I know how that would likely end up. Anyway thanks for the feedback.
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    09-27-2014 07:21 PM
  20. trekgraham's Avatar
    If you are buying either of the phones based on their reception, it's hard to say based on the fact that the Note 4 hasn't even released yet.

    I can't say much about reception, but I would have a lot more to say if the OP wanted a detailed initial comparison.

    But in short, the 1520 doesn't seem to have a whole lot of manufacturing issues that people have complained about however there was a particular touch issue where swipes we're occasionally registered as taps.

    It was extremely annoying to people but I believe a software update fixed it.

    Either way you go, 1520 and Note 4 are both great devices.
    I think the swipes being seen as taps is a WP issue, cause I have it on my Lumia 521
    09-30-2014 09:14 AM
  21. clitrenta's Avatar
    Anyone have an idea when the 1520's successor will be out? I do have time. I think the Notes are great devices actually. I had the Note 3 and the only issue I had with that was unstable WiFi connection (quite annoying at times) but other than that, it was a beast of a phone. That said, I think I have made up my mind to go back to WP with my next upgrade because I LOVE the OS. Looks and runs great and I love how it interacts with my computer. Add Cortana to that and its a no-brainer. Part of my problem with WP was app availability but upon further consideration, I've decided I can deal with those short comings. The 1520 is a beautiful phone and I expect the next one to be even better. There's nothing like live tiles and I miss them immensely. When deciding between this and the Note, I really think you have to decide what's most important to you. The Note does some things no other phone can but the Lumia (all of them) is just special in my opinion. It always pulls at me and NO ONE puts a better camera on a phone than Nokia.
    09-30-2014 09:42 AM
  22. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Anyone have an idea when the 1520's successor will be out?...
    Many are asking. Few know anything... I wouldn't bank on anything until this spring.
    09-30-2014 10:29 AM
  23. Peter Harvey's Avatar
    Ok, so my family will be switching from Verizon to TMobile and I need some help making a decision. For those who have a 1520.3 how is the reception (anyone live in the NY area?), are there any hardware issues that I should be aware of (I know there are some issues with the 1520 concerning the screen), and what version of the OS are you on. Basically it is either I buy this phone or I wait a month and buy the Note 4. I have used iOS, Android, and Windows Phone so no need to try and sway me either way I just want to know how your experience with the 1520.3 has been on TMo's network.

    Thank you!
    I have a Lumia 1520.
    My wife's Samsung Galaxy S5 is a sub-24 hour battery life disaster.
    My receptionist's Galaxy Note 3's battery life isn't much better than my wife's.
    My Lumia 1520's battery life is a dream.

    Furthermore, the vertical scrolling of pages on Android is a disaster; the scrolling lacks momentum & end of page "bounce back" - I think Apple forced Samsung to delete for copyright reasons? However WindowsPhone still has this wonderful feature; Windows Mobile may have had this feature since the late 1990's.

    The old "curtain" drop downs on Android look so old. WindowsPhone no longer uses curtains, but uses either a full page, or a half page.

    Windows Phone not only looks better, but performs better....
    09-30-2014 12:02 PM
  24. Pierre Blackwell's Avatar
    It's going to cone down to the OS. The Note 4 just got released so its going to have the latest specs from a processor standpoint but you have to keep in mind that Android has always been spec heavy and the Android OS needs a lot more resources to run than WP so I never read too much into specs. I will say that the Note series has always seemed to emphasize on screen utilization and the fact that its a phablet, where as the 1520 is pretty much an enlarged 930. Don't get me wrong, I think the 1520 is one of the best phones out there and definitely the best WP, but it would be nice to take advantage of this amazing screen and display more. I believe the "Denim" update will provide some of that, like with split screen. All in all, I still wouldn't trade WP8.1 for kit Kat ( give me a break 😉). There is some dual polarization technology that the 1520 has that's rarely mentioned that is amazing for when you're reading outside on a sunny day. Also keep in mind the pricing. The Note 4 is brand new, where as the 1520 is almost a year old so you can look at off contract 1520s with Qi wireless charging.
    10-05-2014 10:43 AM
  25. blue1k's Avatar
    I have the S5 and 1520. With some knowledge of Android and settings the s5 is as smooth as my 1520. Have had time to try out a note 4. It's a much better device than the 1520 in these areas:
    1. Screen
    2. Work related features
    3. Access to spen apps
    4. Camera focus
    5. Video quality
    6. Multi tasking with multi window
    7. Shot to shot time
    8. White balance

    Btw my s5 lasts at least 18 hours for me with 4 hours on screen time and higher brightness. It bugs me because most people here are quick to dismiss android but really need to read more on how to optimize a device.
    10-05-2014 10:50 AM
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