12-24-2014 08:47 AM
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  1. rudypoochris's Avatar
    Hi Guys,

    Dropped my 1520 a couple weeks back from stomach height and shattered the screen. Figured maybe since it fell face down that the crack was bad luck. Had it replaced for $220. Just last night dropped from pocket height, very mild drop landing right above the volume rocker on the frame. Nope, not a fluke, wrecked it again. I am starting to think this phone will never sustain a drop and is no longer worth investing in. I treat this phone much better than my 920 (like 10x) and this has never happened to the 920 but 2/2 on the 1520.

    I am not going to use a case. Does this really happen that much or am I unlucky? Should I move to a different model?

    Thanks
    12-21-2014 04:13 PM
  2. Big Papa Smurf's Avatar
    It may be the glass it was replaced with.I had an issue when j had glass replaced on my gs3 to. Shattered like no ones business. When I purchased my first 928, it fell out of my pocket while I was laying on my back and cracked. Maybe 3 inches off the ground. I sent it in to be replaced.
    My new 928 has fallen from 3ft+ and no issues. The gs3 had the glass replaced by the mall kiosk. I can only assume the 928 had as well.
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    12-21-2014 04:18 PM
  3. mathsisbest's Avatar
    I don't use a case. I've dropped my 1520 about 10 times in the last month or so (I have butter fingers). I've been lucky that I haven't got any major cracks. Just the odd scratch...

    (drops were around stomach height too)
    12-21-2014 04:18 PM
  4. massifheed's Avatar
    If you drop your phone from any height you have to expect it to break. They are delicate, fragile, hi-tech pieces of technology that after not designed to withstand drops and shocks etc. I'd be amazed if I dropped my phone from waist height and it didn't break.

    If you've dropped your phone in the past and it's survived then that's luck. If you drop it and it breaks that's not unlucky, that's just what you should expect to happen.

    You wouldn't drop a laptop on the floor and expect that to be undamaged, surely?

    If you find that you're dropping your phone often, buy a case. If you don't like putting a case on your phone, stop dropping it! ;)
    12-21-2014 04:30 PM
  5. Visa Declined's Avatar
    Phones these days aren't really made to withstand drops. Phones with huge screens are even more susceptible to drops vs smaller phones. I don't think the 1520 is ridiculously weak, I think anyone who drops this goliath should fully expect a broken screen.

    I know it's easier said than done, but quit dropping your phone. After the first drop, I would have started using a case if I were you.
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    12-21-2014 04:34 PM
  6. P1ng0fDeath's Avatar
    Agreed. Guess it has little to do with resistance. Mostly it's luck.
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    12-21-2014 04:35 PM
  7. Bobvfr's Avatar
    Stop dropping your phone would be the best start.

    If you can't do this then buy another phone and moan about them, that at least will stop negative posts about one of the best phones on the market.

    It's a bit like saying I just crashed my car and it got bent, must be a crap car so I am going to buy a different model when any one with any ounce of common sense can see where the problem is......
    12-21-2014 04:37 PM
  8. rudypoochris's Avatar
    Okay, so consensus is expect the phone to shatter when dropped from waist height? If so, then yea I will move to a different phone. No way in hell a 635, 920, Samsung ativ odyessy, 822, etc would be shattering from those heights. I know because after using cell phones for the past 10 years of my life this is the first one to ever break once, let alone twice. Guess I got lucky for 10 years straight and this is normal now. I still have a couple 920s so ill resurrect those until a 1520 replacement comes out. Not worth the $220 replacement bill twice on a $450 phone. That answers my question anyway.
    12-21-2014 08:38 PM
  9. rudypoochris's Avatar
    Stop dropping your phone would be the best start.

    If you can't do this then buy another phone and moan about them, that at least will stop negative posts about one of the best phones on the market.

    It's a bit like saying I just crashed my car and it got bent, must be a crap car so I am going to buy a different model when any one with any ounce of common sense can see where the problem is......
    Flawed logic. When you crash your car it will be damaged 99% of the time. That is expected. When you drop a phone it is damaged probably what, 10% of the time? Guess not so for the 1520.
    12-21-2014 08:41 PM
  10. Daniel James 2's Avatar
    Flawed logic. When you crash your car it will be damaged 99% of the time. That is expected. When you drop a phone it is damaged probably what, 10% of the time? Guess not so for the 1520.
    Assuming the chance is 10%, the chance of it happening twice to the same person is 1%. Unlikely, but still possible. Statistics is a B.
    12-21-2014 09:52 PM
  11. rudypoochris's Avatar
    Assuming the chance is 10%, the chance of it happening twice to the same person is 1%. Unlikely, but still possible. Statistics is a B.
    Yeah, hence my question re: Am I just unlucky. Seems confirmed I am not unlucky and indeed this is "normal" for the 1520. Oh well.
    12-21-2014 09:55 PM
  12. Dusan Randj's Avatar
    The bigger the screen the more fragile it is. Simple like that, Nokia for sure made it sturdy but there are physical limitations...
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    12-21-2014 10:02 PM
  13. rdifiori's Avatar
    I haven't dropped any of my phones in years. I don't get it. If and when I do, I expect it to break--maybe that's why I'm so careful. Maybe get a more protective case if you're so prone to drops?
    12-21-2014 10:27 PM
  14. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    Should I move to a different model?
    No, but you might want to rethink your decision to become a professional juggler.
    12-21-2014 10:39 PM
  15. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I read a lot of these stories at the various forums.

    Gravity alone is not to blame. A big part of it is how the phone lands and on what type of surface. Every drop is unique. Filled with vastly differing variables. No two results will ever be the same.

    1" or one mile... A phone can and will break. Any phone.

    One thing that seems consistent with these types of threads is denial. "It's not the fact the phone was dropped, the design/parts/quality is flawed."

    Yeah, if you are prone to dropping phones, if you seem unlucky that they always break on you and not your pals... There might be something going on.

    ​Get a mil spec ruggedized phone.
    12-21-2014 10:56 PM
  16. taphius's Avatar
    I've dropped mine a few times (always in a case though) with no damage.

    With as large of a screen as these have, you kind of have to expect it. A drop is going to create quite a bit of torsion/tension on the frame with the screen being the weakest(brittle) part.
    12-22-2014 01:15 PM
  17. T Moore's Avatar
    Unlucky? Has nothing to do with luck, just depends on how careful you are.
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    12-22-2014 01:21 PM
  18. xandros9's Avatar
    Phone-dropping is an exceedingly squishy science.

    There are so many factors in play here. From the design of the phone (material, component layout, etc.) to the nature of the fall. (what material did it fall on? how did it contact the material? speed?) and of course, a liberal amount of luck can be applied here.

    I've seen stories of some Lumia's (or other phones, actually) surviving situations I wouldn't expect a phone to come out of unscathed, but I've also heard stories of phones cracking from a drop I (perhaps mistakenly) wouldn't call dangerous. Sometimes they are the same model.

    Of course the best option is to not drop the phone, but people are all different. I drop my phone rarely, while my sister's Lumia is comparatively much-more dinged up.
    A case is an option, and a fine insurance if you are someone who is more clumsy, especially with the perhaps unwieldy size of the 1520 and other phones in its class.

    Of course, different phones are built differently, I personally suspect the sheer size of the glass and nature of the 1520 makes it more susceptible than the rather tanky 920, but I really can't say. Its not a complaint i often see. It's almost random, perhaps like Phone Roulette. I don't think it can be called "ridiculously weak" without significant study (inner scientist go!) as I've seen plenty of threads calling any given model weak.
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    12-22-2014 03:13 PM
  19. jodeltje's Avatar
    I have to say that the 1520 is indeed a fragile phone.
    There are a few things that cause this, such as the shape, the thin pointy corners don't bounce away as easy as the more rounded phones do, which helps in absorbing some force. Also, this phone seems to lack a proper frame, the thin plastic hits the unsupported screen almost directly might it hit the floor.
    12-22-2014 07:56 PM
  20. rudypoochris's Avatar
    I have to say that the 1520 is indeed a fragile phone.
    There are a few things that cause this, such as the shape, the thin pointy corners don't bounce away as easy as the more rounded phones do, which helps in absorbing some force. Also, this phone seems to lack a proper frame, the thin plastic hits the unsupported screen almost directly might it hit the floor.
    I think its because the glass is raised above the frame. Same problem with iPhone 4 and 5 which crack all the time. I do think this is by far the most fragile Nokia I have owned. Too bad its a great phone. I use my phone like crazy and a drop every half year is inevitable. I'll just switch to something more reliable. Since.

    After reading these forums more it seems a quire frequent occurrence with the 1520. I have an extra glass here I might rebuild the phone and do a drop test versus the 920 to illustrate the difference. 100% sure the 920 or 635 won't be cracking in any case.
    12-23-2014 03:24 AM
  21. rhamblet's Avatar
    I have dropped 4 Nokia 1520s, this is my 5th device. Two yellows, two whites, and now this black one. They are not exactly bulletproof... Its a 1 drop kind of phone, and trust me, its not worth a case unless you buy an otter box.
    12-23-2014 08:43 AM
  22. Jazmac's Avatar
    That's like jumping from an airplane wearing a backpack hoping it opens into a chute. Then blame the backpack for not doing a better job of landing you safely. It cost you 220 bucks the first time and it'll likely cost the same this time. Just like metals on the Iphone6 Plus will bend, glass will break. Its not a phenomenon when it happens, those materials are doing what they've always done. How about just get a case? Its cheaper than replacing glass.
    12-23-2014 09:01 AM
  23. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    To the OP, I managed to crack my supposedly indestructible L920 screen.

    It all comes down to how it falls and what it falls onto. Obviously the harder the surface the more likely you'll break something. If it falls on a corner you're likely to crack it. If you drop it another way the whole screen goes. You drop another way and you get a scratch or two.

    As someone has mentioned. The variables are impossible to calculate and difficult to determine.

    I tend to think of my phone like a laptop. I wouldn't drop it from any height. Yes phones should be a bit more rugged but when the screen gets over 6" and is thin you can't expect it being too robust.

    You've been unlucky and unfortunately dropping something like a 1520 is more likely to break simply due to physics than say dropping a L920 or something smaller.
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    12-23-2014 09:24 AM
  24. jomarr's Avatar
    Funny because I dropped my 1520 a month ago naked on concrete and only a couple of scratches, light scratches that aren't visible to the naked eye unless you put it on direct light.

    I guess it depends on the situation.
    12-23-2014 09:50 AM
  25. stephen_az's Avatar
    Yeah, hence my question re: Am I just unlucky. Seems confirmed I am not unlucky and indeed this is "normal" for the 1520. Oh well.
    I am sorry but how exactly has your position been confirmed? I see most people saying don't drop your phone or any phone can break or a large glass screen is susceptible to cracking. Where are all the people saying they dropped theirs and it also broke? As to the comment about a phone being damaged 10% of the times, that is just a number being pulled out of thin air. In fact, the same goes for saying a car will be damaged 99% of the time. With any vehicle made or sold in the US bumpers are designed to protect it from damage at low speeds. Likewise, you can total another person's car at 65MPH by spinning them through minor contact at a rear quarter panel and your own vehicle may have little more than a few scrapes. Police do it all the time, as do stock car drivers. The point being is all factors must be considered and there may be circumstances where damage to a phone (or car) will happen 100% of the time and others where it may occur 1%. As such, the logic is absolutely flawed.

    I am not going to tell you to buy a different phone nor not drop your phone - one is your choice and none of my business and the other may be beyond your control. I dropped my 928 and 822 a number times due to temporary dexterity issues before and after having three vertebrae fused in my neck, Neither were damaged but that does not mean they are indestructible. I also would have objected to anyone saying I should be more careful since they clearly were unaware of my own circumstances. What I will say is I do object to claiming a screen is ridiculously weak (your words) based solely upon personal experience. The only thing that has been confirmed here is that phones can break if dropped. How you choose to proceed is up to you but in no way has your assertion that the 1520 is exceptionally fragile been demonstrated to be factual. It is still simply an opinion based upon personal experience....
    Last edited by stephen_az; 12-23-2014 at 11:48 AM.
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    12-23-2014 11:00 AM
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