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  1. zahir hussain2's Avatar
    hi guys

    when ill be denim update release for lumia 1520 in Saudi ?/??
    01-14-2015 02:08 AM
  2. bonghy90's Avatar
    No idea. Microsoft is keeping everyone in the dark here. They aren't like apple who pushes out an update globally. Microsoft has basically forsaken its own mobile platform. Hardly anybody buys a Lumia in Malaysia. I am one of the few left.
    01-14-2015 02:13 AM
  3. Felix Bank's Avatar
    I'm still waiting for the update in the UK...
    Frosted_Imp likes this.
    01-14-2015 02:31 AM
  4. maclancer's Avatar
    The problem is that Microsoft depends on the carriers to test and release the firmware to a specific device, unlike Apple that they design, test and releases directly to their phones. I really don't understand why Microsoft just do that. Carriers don't need to be the one that judges if you receive the firmware or not. But it could also be that Microsoft negotiate with the carriers and they put that condition in order to accept Windows Phone in their sales.
    01-14-2015 02:31 AM
  5. sk1d_mark's Avatar
    I've got an unlocked 1520 and don't have the update :(

    I thought buying high end unlocked phones would allow for swifter updates, but neither the wifes 930 or my phone have the updates yet.
    01-14-2015 03:01 AM
  6. abhirajsoni's Avatar
    Microsoft are talking about windows10 on 21st jan. But they didn't even release the denim yet. This is pathetic.
    Jokubas Mickus likes this.
    01-14-2015 03:08 AM
  7. Pete's Avatar
    Talking about does not mean "releasing". Windows Phone 10 is a long way from being released to the public.

    Denim is is due Q1 2015 and is on track for that timescale. Don't forget that we had Cyan relatively recently.
    01-14-2015 03:15 AM
  8. abhirajsoni's Avatar
    My only point is that if they release an update, they should release it worldwide. So that people don't wait in other countries for the same update. :/
    Qais Abu-Hasan likes this.
    01-14-2015 03:25 AM
  9. Pete's Avatar
    This has been the case ever since Windows Phone 7 and I don't see it changing before Windows Phone 10.

    We don't know how firmware updates will be handled with WP10, we might find out next week, or we might have to wait longer for that information. Carriers still need a way of making and testing firmware changes though. Or there might be another solution, we just don't know yet. We'll certainly know a lot more next week.
    aximtreo and okizen like this.
    01-14-2015 03:29 AM
  10. Citizen X's Avatar
    My only point is that if they release an update, they should release it worldwide. So that people don't wait in other countries for the same update. :/
    I could be wrong but my understanding is they are rolling it out piecemeal so they can catch and correct any bugs before releasing it for all phones in large markets like the US.
    01-14-2015 09:52 AM
  11. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    01-14-2015 03:53 PM
  12. EuroKnuter's Avatar
    It really is bizarre to me that 60% of the user base is left vulnerable to a severe security vulnerability (nearly a billion devices!!) and we won't get a patch because our software is too old. Oh, right, that's not us!
    01-14-2015 04:02 PM
  13. EssThree's Avatar
    Still waiting on unbranded country variant update for 1520 and 920 in Australia. Just gotta play the waiting game.
    01-15-2015 06:50 AM
  14. Paul Stasik's Avatar
    Still waiting on AT&T in the US. Got the bug in the extras+info screen just taunting me.
    01-15-2015 08:45 AM
  15. P_1's Avatar
    Guys any update for denim update for Lumia 920. India.
    01-15-2015 08:52 AM
  16. michail71's Avatar
    Perhaps they hit some bugs then? Wish it was part of the developer preview.
    01-15-2015 09:59 AM
  17. dicks-webos's Avatar
    Heard that Netflix crashes on Denim, maybe they are fixing that first?
    01-15-2015 10:56 AM
  18. Nakazul's Avatar
    Unlocked in Sweden, still nothing.
    01-15-2015 12:10 PM
  19. wphashan's Avatar
    I just received email from MS, saying lumia denim software update available for entire range of lumia device
    01-15-2015 01:48 PM
  20. davidewart's Avatar
    Downloading update for HK CV L930 now!
    wphashan likes this.
    01-15-2015 02:01 PM
  21. awilliams1701's Avatar
    Unfortunately by design CDMA carriers like Verizon and Sprint have 100% control of both the hardware and firmware on their network. Their networks require keys to be included in the firmware or the phone won't connect. If they don't approve, Microsoft doesn't get the keys. GSM carriers like AT&T and T-Mo don't require this, but if Microsoft tried to bypass them, they could stop selling the phones. The only reason the iphone gets away with this is because "everyone wants an iphone" (which I don't believe, but they do). So part of the agreement is that Verizon universally approves ALL updates without testing. Microsoft just doesn't have the power to make that deal.

    The problem is that Microsoft depends on the carriers to test and release the firmware to a specific device, unlike Apple that they design, test and releases directly to their phones. I really don't understand why Microsoft just do that. Carriers don't need to be the one that judges if you receive the firmware or not. But it could also be that Microsoft negotiate with the carriers and they put that condition in order to accept Windows Phone in their sales.
    01-15-2015 02:10 PM
  22. okizen's Avatar
    I agree with abhirajsoni. Take the RM-937 for example. They should release the firmware globally so that is the same for Ghana as it is Finland and Saudi Arabia instead of releasing it according to global regions.
    01-15-2015 04:26 PM
  23. fdalbor's Avatar
    When it comes, it comes. Phone (820) is fine without it. If it helps when it comes, great. It will just get better, I hope. Having the same problem with my Moto G lte, it was suppose to get Lollipop and it was released for some phones. But Google had suddenly stopped pushing it out. Lots of people waiting for that one also. WP is not the only boat on this lake.
    01-15-2015 04:50 PM
  24. fatclue_98's Avatar
    For all those who are so impatient, I have the answer. The Denim Update will be on your phone when the notification tells you it's there.
    RumoredNow and freddiet22 like this.
    01-15-2015 04:57 PM
  25. denispage's Avatar
    Not really. I have an unbranded lumia 1520 (no carrier) and still no Denim update. MS is doing a TERRIBLE job in firmware updates.
    01-15-2015 06:48 PM
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