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  1. birdymkr's Avatar
    I have recently played with both and own a Surface Pro. There's really something about the Nokia design and finish that captured my interest. The red is so sexy and feels perfect in hand. While I'll keep my pro the new Nokia tablet will be at my side wherever I go. I believe it has potential to finally compete with the Apple offerings and change minds regarding RT.
    10-30-2013 04:29 PM
  2. bjax's Avatar
    I have recently played with both and own a Surface Pro. There's really something about the Nokia design and finish that captured my interest. The red is so sexy and feels perfect in hand. While I'll keep my pro the new Nokia tablet will be at my side wherever I go. I believe it has potential to finally compete with the Apple offerings and change minds regarding RT.
    How were you able to play with both? Is the 2520 out somewhere? I don't understand why no official release dates are out yet.
    10-31-2013 12:38 AM
  3. Ahmed Bilal's Avatar
    i know i want a date at least because its eating at my brain
    10-31-2013 04:32 AM
  4. birdymkr's Avatar
    How were you able to play with both? Is the 2520 out somewhere? I don't understand why no official release dates are out yet.
    Not out yet, just have the right friends. Both were final developer versions.
    10-31-2013 09:04 AM
  5. sanshiro's Avatar
    Not out yet, just have the right friends. Both were final developer versions.
    We need their names and addresses.
    10-31-2013 11:59 AM
  6. bjax's Avatar
    Not out yet, just have the right friends. Both were final developer versions.
    I'm extremely jealous. I just want it to be out already...
    10-31-2013 11:40 PM
  7. Wendy Bautista's Avatar
    I really want the 2520 but since its lte only I think I'm going with the surface pro 2. I don't want to pay for the tablet and pay for my phone
    11-01-2013 07:12 PM
  8. bjax's Avatar
    I really want the 2520 but since its lte only I think I'm going with the surface pro 2. I don't want to pay for the tablet and pay for my phone
    When you say "it's LTE only" and "pay for the tablet and pay for my phone", do you mean as in paying for data? Cause you could always buy the tablet off-contract and just use the wi-fi.
    11-01-2013 08:18 PM
  9. baseballbert's Avatar
    Which one will be better for productivity? Using office, that kind of thing.
    11-03-2013 04:25 PM
  10. JaimitoFrog's Avatar
    i plan to see both in person when it is out in the stores, and make decision then. want to see how they feel in the hands, how keyboards differ, screen color etc.

    i'm leaning on nokia now, since the nokia software apps seems a bit more special, GPS and Here maps, plus its ability to make calls/txt when tethered to a lumia phone which i have.
    11-09-2013 06:30 AM
  11. Doctor Pork's Avatar
    Which one will be better for productivity? Using office, that kind of thing.
    Given the fact that they will run the same programs with a few Nokia exceptions which to be honest are not that productivity focused, it will likely be a question of what form factor fits you the best. The surface got the advantage of having the kickstand which is much faster to use than using the Nokia keyboard cover if you want to use it as a stand, the surface type cover is excellent and can be folded behind the tablet in a matter of seconds if you want to swiftly switch between laptop mode or tablet mode on the road. The Nokia keyboard quality is more or less unknown at the moment, but in some cases it could be more stable to use in the lap. The Nokia 2520 should get better battery life unless the surface use the power cover which could be a big boost if you need a really long runtime. The surface with Power cover should probably get the longest runtime though.

    If you work outside, it is likely that the 2520 got a better screen and it got super sensitive touch so it could be better then. The in built LTE will also be a big benefit if you use it a lot outside of WiFi zones. Sharing you connection from your phone works, but it is inconvenient if you have to switch it on too often.
    11-10-2013 10:32 AM
  12. calebcre's Avatar
    i'm leaning on nokia now, since the nokia software apps seems a bit more special, GPS and Here maps, plus its ability to make calls/txt when tethered to a lumia phone which i have.
    Hold up! Totally didnt know that you could text from the 2520 when tethered to a phone. That would be the final selling point for me.
    Anyone have a source link for this?
    11-10-2013 06:36 PM
  13. gschneiderAW18's Avatar
    I am also massively caught in this dilemma.

    I have drawn some conclusions I really don't need LTE as I cant get it where I live anyway. Plus I always tethered my iphone5 to my iPad or laptop so its not really a deal breaker. GPS isn't really required most apps that use it are purely using it to direct you somewhere, in which case I would be moving, so I'd be on my phone not a tablet.

    For the me the real issue is Snapdragon 800 vs. Tegra 4 its a real shame MS went with the 1.7ghz and not the 1.9ghz but still I am not won over by which one as actually better. Performance makes a bit difference to me. Its what my laptop is all about and so my tablet must also live up to expectations.
    11-11-2013 04:14 PM
  14. Jeff Kibuule's Avatar
    I am also massively caught in this dilemma.

    I have drawn some conclusions I really don't need LTE as I cant get it where I live anyway. Plus I always tethered my iphone5 to my iPad or laptop so its not really a deal breaker. GPS isn't really required most apps that use it are purely using it to direct you somewhere, in which case I would be moving, so I'd be on my phone not a tablet.

    For the me the real issue is Snapdragon 800 vs. Tegra 4 its a real shame MS went with the 1.7ghz and not the 1.9ghz but still I am not won over by which one as actually better. Performance makes a bit difference to me. Its what my laptop is all about and so my tablet must also live up to expectations.
    I expect the Snapdragon 800 to have better battery life as Windows RT doesn't fully utilize the shadow core in the Tegra 4 according to AnandTech.
    11-15-2013 05:16 PM
  15. Huime's Avatar
    Given the fact that they will run the same programs with a few Nokia exceptions which to be honest are not that productivity focused, it will likely be a question of what form factor fits you the best. The surface got the advantage of having the kickstand which is much faster to use than using the Nokia keyboard cover if you want to use it as a stand, the surface type cover is excellent and can be folded behind the tablet in a matter of seconds if you want to swiftly switch between laptop mode or tablet mode on the road. The Nokia keyboard quality is more or less unknown at the moment, but in some cases it could be more stable to use in the lap. The Nokia 2520 should get better battery life unless the surface use the power cover which could be a big boost if you need a really long runtime. The surface with Power cover should probably get the longest runtime though.

    If you work outside, it is likely that the 2520 got a better screen and it got super sensitive touch so it could be better then. The in built LTE will also be a big benefit if you use it a lot outside of WiFi zones. Sharing you connection from your phone works, but it is inconvenient if you have to switch it on too often.
    both comes with power keyboard. 2520 is rated for 15hours with it tho.
    11-16-2013 10:53 PM
  16. Roderick Aspiras's Avatar
    Its hard to decide now unless you see both in the flesh. I think what you should do is wait for the lumia 2520 to hit stores. Read some reviews and actually feel the device if you have the chance to see it in the store. Hope this helps.
    11-17-2013 06:31 AM
  17. rx74ray's Avatar
    I just looked at them side by side at MS store. Here are my first impressions:

    2520 is sleek and pops. I was looking at the red one. Uni-body design stands out. Thinner side edges feel nice in hand. But it feels heavier than Surface 2, not by much, but it was noticeable to me. The screen on 2520 was amazing and it was clearly better looking than S2. In the picture they are both running at max brightness. Lumia can get super bright!
    S2 was a hair thinner.

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    11-19-2013 12:01 AM
  18. rav16's Avatar
    I just looked at them side by side at MS store. Here are my first impressions:

    2520 is sleek and pops. I was looking at the red one. Uni-body design stands out. Thinner side edges feel nice in hand. But it feels heavier than Surface 2, not by much, but it was noticeable to me. The screen on 2520 was amazing and it was clearly better looking than S2. In the picture they are both running at max brightness. Lumia can get super bright!
    S2 was a hair thinner.

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    Thanx for the pic ....if given a choice which you will prefer ?
    11-19-2013 03:49 AM
  19. Doctor Pork's Avatar
    both comes with power keyboard. 2520 is rated for 15hours with it tho.
    Yes, I said that there would be a surface Power cover... Given that the battery in that is the same size as the one in the Surface 2, it will obviously approximately double the run time up to about 20 hour even if we don't know any more specifications.

    About the pictures, it is a bit hard to compare as the brightness might be too different, but the yellow on the desktop tile looks a bit muted on the Surface, which would be expected as it has a screen that does not cover the entire colour space which the 2520 likely does then. The same is true if you compare the iPad Air with the iPad mini with retina display for that matter.

    Retina iPad mini display shows poorer color accuracy than Apple's iPad Air
    11-19-2013 05:10 AM
  20. Marc_SP's Avatar
    Microsoft really screwed up on this one. Basically they made a tablet without including any of the standard tablet sensors and antennas. The same goes for the Surface Pro, how stupid can you be to build a tablet with only the internals you would use in a laptop type device [edit: by this I mean lacking all mobile sensors and such, not using the main components like cpu, etc.]. Tablets by their definition are mobile devices and Microsoft once again screwed up with this. I am glad Nokia is doing it right, now only if they could come up with a competitor to the Surface Pro.
    Well, the bestseller tablet in the world (Wifi iPad) doesn't have GPS either. Sure it must be good to have a GPS, but may be it is not so needed. Most people will have the GPS in the phone anyway, and you can still check the map in the tablet without GPS. And the NSA will not locate you so easily, hehe. 8-P
    11-19-2013 05:31 AM
  21. jmerrey's Avatar
    Right now, the biggest factor in my decision making process is the kickstand and keyboard case. The Surface's solution seems much more elegant, and flexible. I'm not crazy about not being able to fold back the keyboard for tablet use on the 2520. I've seen how you can slide it down, but that looks really bulky. Also, one of my favorite positions for media viewing is with the keyboard back, and the kickstand extended actually onto the back of the keyboard case. Makes a very compact and stable viewing station. I'm sure I'll try the 2520 out, but if everything else is close to equal, I'll stick with the Surface for these reasons.
    11-19-2013 08:31 AM
  22. RodimusMajor's Avatar
    I'm not as focused in the folding-behind stuff. I like the look of the Nokia power keyboard a bit better because it seems thicker and to have a bit more surface (no pun intended) area-- all the better to balance on one's lap with.
    11-19-2013 09:16 AM
  23. rx74ray's Avatar
    Thanx for the pic ....if given a choice which you will prefer ?
    I'll go with surface. Lumia is just enough heavier that makes you wanna put it down and use surface instead.
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    11-19-2013 10:46 AM
  24. berty6294's Avatar
    I'll go with surface. Lumia is just enough heavier that makes you wanna put it down and use surface instead.
    Bold statement! I'm excited to check the 2520 out and see for myself. I'm definitely sticking with my S2 but I'm quite curious.
    11-19-2013 10:53 AM
  25. calebcre's Avatar
    I'll go with surface. Lumia is just enough heavier that makes you wanna put it down and use surface instead.
    That's interesting... According to the spec comparisons, the Lumia is supposed to be .1-.15 lbs lighter than the surface....
    11-19-2013 10:55 AM
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