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  1. phasar's Avatar
    The 4G LTE is a definite advantage for those who need it. Outside of 4G and Nokia apps there just doesn't seem like a logical reason to choose the Lumia over the Surface. My opinion has nothing to do with frustration. Every retailer I visited that sells both devices I've found the same screen lag issue with the Lumia device,and the screen not powering up problem is well documented.Getting the USB to function also seems to be a frustrating experience based on the forums. With the limited app selection and function of Windows RT, it only makes sense to choose the obvious superior device since your selection is limited to only two choices. Also, Microsoft can give you in store support which is a game changer in my book. As far as deleted post are concerned, I've deleted no previous posts. When it comes to battery life, several reviews give the Surface an edge in battery life,and Microsoft is releasing a power keyboard that will also add additional life as well as bulk to their devices. The bottom line is having to tap on links and images several times to get a response is annoying enough to ruin any user experience regardless of tablet features.
    01-18-2014 04:50 AM
  2. GrayW0lf's Avatar
    And yet we see forum entries such as those here that are positive as well as this one: http://forums.windowscentral.com/nok...xperience.html

    So while your issues/concerns aren't without merit, it's not appropriate to try to scare others into choosing the path that you seem to wish that you had originally taken. Again: I don't blame you for being frustrated, but I do insist that telling others that this tablet is without merit and that there is only "1" choice is inappropriate since others should make informed choices. Your feedback certainly can help, so thank you for sharing. The positive feedback from happy Lumia 2520 owners also helps.

    I again wish you the best of luck with acquiring a Surface 2 and hope you find that it is everything that you wish the 2520 was. Good luck!
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    01-18-2014 11:05 AM
  3. jabtano's Avatar
    I have a question, My wife asked me how to get the keyboard up when she was in desktop using the browser and wanted to put an address in the bar, first i said why are you using desktop?..I got that look so, I didn't go there...but I'll be damed if I couldn't get it up as well. other than that this tablet rocks. I enjoy the 2520 much better than my surface.
    02-28-2014 03:32 AM
  4. Glenmore Vinoya's Avatar
    On the system tray there should be a keyboard icon to bring up the keyboard in desktop. But it's not a good experience since almost half of your screen will be covered.
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    02-28-2014 03:41 AM
  5. jabtano's Avatar
    True I've seen it but it never comes up, I'm just muffed out by using the desktop browser
    02-28-2014 03:47 AM
  6. Glenmore Vinoya's Avatar
    I'll check my wife's 2520 tomorrow to confirm it won't come up.
    02-28-2014 04:04 AM
  7. robertre's Avatar
    works fine for me. I just tried it. The keyboard comes up fine when I tap the keyboard icon in the taskbar.
    02-28-2014 10:48 AM
  8. Citizen X's Avatar
    I have a question, My wife asked me how to get the keyboard up when she was in desktop using the browser and wanted to put an address in the bar, first i said why are you using desktop?..I got that look so, I didn't go there...but I'll be damed if I couldn't get it up as well. other than that this tablet rocks. I enjoy the 2520 much better than my surface.
    The 2520 I used isn't here but just tapping on the address bar might bring it up. If not there may be an icon in the lower right hand corner to bring up the keyboard. On the 2520 running RT the keyboard seems to pop up a lot when you need it. In desktop mode on a Dell Venue 8 Pro running Windows 8.1 I find I need to tap the keyboard icon in the lower right hand corner a lot to make the keyboard appear. Anyway I am sorry for you and your wife you can't "get it up."

    Every retailer I visited that sells both devices I've found the same screen lag issue with the Lumia device,and the screen not powering up problem is well documented.Getting the USB to function also seems to be a frustrating experience based on the forums. With the limited app selection and function of Windows RT, it only makes sense to choose the obvious superior device since your selection is limited to only two choices. Also, Microsoft can give you in store support which is a game changer in my book. As far as deleted post are concerned, I've deleted no previous posts. When it comes to battery life, several reviews give the Surface an edge in battery life,and Microsoft is releasing a power keyboard that will also add additional life as well as bulk to their devices. The bottom line is having to tap on links and images several times to get a response is annoying enough to ruin any user experience regardless of tablet features.
    Sorry for you bad experience. I didn't experience any of that. I gave my dad a 2520 and he loves it. Good luck waiting for the Microsoft power keyboard you have to pay for. My dad is currently enjoying the free battery/keyboard I got with the special Nokia offer. He also uses a full size keyboard and mouse with his 2520 via a fully functional USB port. I've never seen the guy so excited about a piece of tech. I'm sure the Surface 2 is great but my Dad loves being able to have the internet anywhere. He is smiling from ear to ear.

    And really if you are on a family share plan and bought a 1520 at the same time you could have bought a 2520 for $200 with free keyboard and then paid only $10 a month to dip into your 10 GB monthly data allotment. So $200 + $10x24= $440. Current price of Surface 2? $449 with no keyboard, no extra battery capacity, no LTE, and no data. It took me ten seconds to get my Dad the 1520 and 2520 deal. No brainer.
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    02-28-2014 11:08 AM
  9. GizmoEV's Avatar
    I have a question, My wife asked me how to get the keyboard up when she was in desktop using the browser and wanted to put an address in the bar, first i said why are you using desktop?..I got that look so, I didn't go there...but I'll be damed if I couldn't get it up as well. other than that this tablet rocks. I enjoy the 2520 much better than my surface.
    In addition to the one on the desktop task bar there are times you need the on screen keyboard but it doesn't come up because there is no mechanism to tell the tablet that the physical keyboard is in "inactive mode" such as when laying the tablet over the keyboard. Just swipe in from the right to get the charms bar, select settings, then keyboard and a list of available keyboards is presented.
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    02-28-2014 07:49 PM
  10. jabtano's Avatar
    Oh no, I haven't had any issues with my 2520 we figured out the keyboard issue in desktop. Its a fingerprint magnet but I expected that. I took the $399.00 red off contract. Simply because its nice to have sitting on the coffee table. Granted it's not blazing fast like our main rig. But that wasn't what we had in mind. Just to be able to hit the net to do email or see a movie while the big boss has one of her shows on. In work I'm WiFi perfect there if I care to Take it with me. I think for the First time around making a tablet Nokia did a great job.
    03-05-2014 02:14 PM
  11. Aredubu's Avatar
    I haven't had the chance to use my tablet yet. I played with one at the VZW store and really liked it. I purchased one from a private party, in pristine condition, with 3 screen protectors included. I had just finished setting my accounts up when I got the horrid BSOD and could not get rid of it. I was sick to my stomach. I checked with the Nokia website and discovered that the tablet this still under warranty. I filed a claim for repair and Nokia-Texas sent me a box to return the unit for repair. I just received a notification from Nokia that the device could not be repaired and they are sending me a new replacement. During this waiting week I had been thinking about switching to the Surface 2 or even staying with Android OS, but this type of responsiveness is winning me over. Going out today to p/u a Nokia powered keyboard today from a local AT&T store. Hopefully, I will thoroughly enjoy this tablet.

    Sent from my LG-V510 using WPCentral Forums mobile app
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    03-12-2014 09:50 AM
  12. blackdaemon's Avatar
    The Lumia 2520 is not available where I live (Czech Republic) and will not be available, so I risked and ordered it from Clove UK without even holding it or seeing it in person before. Now I just can't stop smiling happily ever since the tablet arrived. It's just fantastic. Great feeling, it's snappy, has great battery life, incredible display (I can compare with my girlfriend's retina iPad, I like Lumia display better), I do not even use its full brightness as it is too bright on my eyes by default (I have the maximum set to 40-50%). I did not experience any slowdown or any problems with IE links not working or any sleep/resume issues as others mentioned before.
    Windows RT is great OS for a tablet, I do not miss any of the x86 apps on desktop yet, I was fully aware that tablet is a tablet and not a full PC (I also own a laptop for work and stationery gaming rig for, guess... gaming) so I am truly using the right tools for the right task and not complaining about WinRT not supporting x86 apps, I think there all the media were misleading potential buyers with all that MS hate and WinRT bashing.

    My only issues are:
    - Fingerprints M.A.G.N.E.T., some sort of anti-fingerprint layer would be great
    - It's hard to locate the hardware Windows logo "button" in the dark (should be lit up as on WP), sometimes I even find myself holding the tablet upside down. Also it takes considerable finger force to make the Windows button to register the tap, so I ended up not using it at all (I use charms bar for that).
    - Impossible to obtain backup charger (I hope this will change in future)
    - No protective cover (I do not need/want the heavy keyboard cover, something like that but without keyboard/battery would be great) and all that I have found so far is looking hideous. I hope this will also change soon.
    03-25-2014 11:05 AM
  13. GizmoEV's Avatar
    The Lumia 2520 is not available where I live (Czech Republic) and will not be available, so I risked and ordered it from Clove UK without even holding it or seeing it in person before. Now I just can't stop smiling happily ever since the tablet arrived. It's just fantastic. Great feeling, it's snappy, has great battery life, incredible display (I can compare with my girlfriend's retina iPad, I like Lumia display better), I do not even use its full brightness as it is too bright on my eyes by default (I have the maximum set to 40-50%). I did not experience any slowdown or any problems with IE links not working or any sleep/resume issues as others mentioned before.
    Windows RT is great OS for a tablet, I do not miss any of the x86 apps on desktop yet, I was fully aware that tablet is a tablet and not a full PC (I also own a laptop for work and stationery gaming rig for, guess... gaming) so I am truly using the right tools for the right task and not complaining about WinRT not supporting x86 apps, I think there all the media were misleading potential buyers with all that MS hate and WinRT bashing.
    I think you nailed it. I think the media thinks, "Why tell the truth when we can fib and bash something?"

    My only issues are:
    - Fingerprints M.A.G.N.E.T., some sort of anti-fingerprint layer would be great
    I agree. I went with an iLLumiShield which does have the oleophobic coating. I originally when with an antiglare screen protector but it made the display hardly better than the Surface RT and gave it a speckled look to things. I got mine from Amazon: Amazon.com: iLLumiShield - Microsoft Surface Windows RT Screen Protector Japanese Ultra Clear HD Film with Anti-Bubble and Anti-Fingerprint - High Quality (Invisible) LCD Shield - Lifetime Replacement Warranty - [2-Pack] OEM / Retail Packaging: Compu

    - It's hard to locate the hardware Windows logo "button" in the dark (should be lit up as on WP), sometimes I even find myself holding the tablet upside down. Also it takes considerable finger force to make the Windows button to register the tap, so I ended up not using it at all (I use charms bar for that).
    I agree to the hard to see it. I would have thought they would have at least given it a mirror look to the icon. It isn't, however, hard to "push" to get it to activate. It seems to have some sort of intelligence built in to try to avoid accidental activations. It does take a direct touch to work.

    - Impossible to obtain backup charger (I hope this will change in future)
    I did finally get one through Verizon even though I'm an AT&T customer. The chargers should become more plentiful as time goes on.

    - No protective cover (I do not need/want the heavy keyboard cover, something like that but without keyboard/battery would be great) and all that I have found so far is looking hideous. I hope this will also change soon.
    While I like the power keyboard and its two standard USB ports I do wish there was a keyboard only cover like the Surface line of tablets has. There are times where I don't want the bulk of the power keyboard and I don't expect to need the keyboard so I picked up a Poetic SlimLine case, also from Amazon: Amazon.com: Poetic SlimLine Case for Nokia Lumia 2520 10.1 Inch Window RT Tablet Black (3 Years Manufacturer Warranty from Poetic): Computers & Accessories. It is a very lightweight case. It does not, however, have the auto on/off ability that the Nokia power keyboard does so you have to remember to hit the power button or just let the tablet go to sleep on its own. I definitely recommend you consider this case.
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    03-25-2014 10:41 PM
  14. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    I wrote a review for Digispun, read it here: Tablet Review: Nokia Lumia 2520 | DigiSpun
    04-02-2014 10:25 AM
  15. GizmoEV's Avatar
    I wrote a review for Digispun, read it here: Tablet Review: Nokia Lumia 2520 | DigiSpun
    Hi James,

    Over all a good review. Some questions however. You said, "It’s a comfortable consumer device that feels light enough to carry around, but the OS leaves a bit to be desired." Compared to what? A Kindle Fire? iPad? or compared to Windows 8? There is a big difference. Remember it IS a tablet, after all.

    "You can’t load Windows programs onto it, and it won’t run many of the Windows desktop apps, such as Tweetdeck, that are available." Remember, it is a tablet.

    "You also can’t download a different browser like Chrome or Firefox so you’re stuck using Internet Explorer." Last I checked, you can't do that on an iPad either.

    "You can get Apps from the Windows RT store, again this is different from the Windows App store that has come on in leaps and bounds over the past year." Really? I didn't notice. How do you get to the two different Windows stores. I only know about the Windows App store and the Windows Phone App stores. All the Modern UI apps I have installed on my desktop Windows 8 computer are also on my Lumia 2520. There may be a handful of exceptions but I haven't seen them yet. What are they?

    Again, the review over all was good except for one point I think you missed. This is a tablet, not a computer in tablet form. It is perfectly legit to point out that it is a tablet but to complain that it isn't a desktop computer in tablet form is not. What you did was like complaining that the small pick-up truck that company X just came out with isn't very good because it can't haul as much dirt as a dump truck. It wasn't designed for the same market or use.
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    04-02-2014 03:22 PM
  16. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    Whoa!!
    I was not complaining, I was simply pointing out the facts to people that might make those comparisons.
    I have the 2520 and prefer it to a full Win8 tablet or laptop.

    Remember, I wrote that before Microsoft unified the app stores.

    Hi James,

    Over all a good review. Some questions however. You said, "It’s a comfortable consumer device that feels light enough to carry around, but the OS leaves a bit to be desired." Compared to what? A Kindle Fire? iPad? or compared to Windows 8? There is a big difference. Remember it IS a tablet, after all.

    "You can’t load Windows programs onto it, and it won’t run many of the Windows desktop apps, such as Tweetdeck, that are available." Remember, it is a tablet.

    "You also can’t download a different browser like Chrome or Firefox so you’re stuck using Internet Explorer." Last I checked, you can't do that on an iPad either.

    "You can get Apps from the Windows RT store, again this is different from the Windows App store that has come on in leaps and bounds over the past year." Really? I didn't notice. How do you get to the two different Windows stores. I only know about the Windows App store and the Windows Phone App stores. All the Modern UI apps I have installed on my desktop Windows 8 computer are also on my Lumia 2520. There may be a handful of exceptions but I haven't seen them yet. What are they?

    Again, the review over all was good except for one point I think you missed. This is a tablet, not a computer in tablet form. It is perfectly legit to point out that it is a tablet but to complain that it isn't a desktop computer in tablet form is not. What you did was like complaining that the small pick-up truck that company X just came out with isn't very good because it can't haul as much dirt as a dump truck. It wasn't designed for the same market or use.
    04-04-2014 11:10 AM
  17. GizmoEV's Avatar
    Whoa!!
    I was not complaining, I was simply pointing out the facts to people that might make those comparisons.
    I have the 2520 and prefer it to a full Win8 tablet or laptop.

    Remember, I wrote that before Microsoft unified the app stores.
    But you didn't give an appropriate context and instead fed the misconceptions people have about Windows RT tablets. Some how it is ok for Apple to have two completely different platforms and yet when Microsoft does it something is wrong. That is what I'm referring to. Also, I don't see how you could have written the review before the app stores were unified since when I bought my wife's Surface RT in April 2013 there was only one Windows App store and the Lumia 2520 came out in November. Now the Windows Phone and Windows app stores are still separate but that isn't what you said.
    04-04-2014 12:04 PM
  18. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    But you didn't give an appropriate context and instead fed the misconceptions people have about Windows RT tablets. Some how it is ok for Apple to have two completely different platforms and yet when Microsoft does it something is wrong. That is what I'm referring to. Also, I don't see how you could have written the review before the app stores were unified since when I bought my wife's Surface RT in April 2013 there was only one Windows App store and the Lumia 2520 came out in November. Now the Windows Phone and Windows app stores are still separate but that isn't what you said.
    Oops, I see your point.

    Send me a PM with the corrections I need to make and I'll edit my review.
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    04-04-2014 01:53 PM
  19. aximtreo's Avatar
    Gmail Calendar will not sync through the tablet.
    You have to get a separate app.

    It's been some time since this post but the way I got around the gmail synching problem was to go to the gmail setup and have it forwarded to my outlook inbox. Works like a charm.
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    09-05-2014 04:09 PM
  20. astraith's Avatar
    But you didn't give an appropriate context and instead fed the misconceptions people have about Windows RT tablets. Some how it is ok for Apple to have two completely different platforms and yet when Microsoft does it something is wrong. That is what I'm referring to. Also, I don't see how you could have written the review before the app stores were unified since when I bought my wife's Surface RT in April 2013 there was only one Windows App store and the Lumia 2520 came out in November. Now the Windows Phone and Windows app stores are still separate but that isn't what you said.
    I do want to point somethings out, although I agree with the general point.

    The iPad can download Chrome (although, now that Chrome runs Blink I wonder if it's the same Chrome that every one else gets), or any Webkit Browser.

    And although I agree that Windows App store is universal - pretty much any app that is in the store works both for RT and Desktop - but Microsoft did not market Windows RT well. They caused the confusion, and they need to fix it.

    However, as an owner of this Tablet, my beef is with the software glitches with no official response on when they will be fixed. Nokia, and now Microsoft, needs to get on that.
    09-25-2014 01:12 AM
  21. lutencio's Avatar
    Hi everyone!
    Sorry my English, I'm brazilian.
    Could someone help me?
    I have gave a Galaxy tab 3 to my wife, but she is sad, because it doesn't play the facebook's videos.
    I'd love to give a Nokia 2520 tab to her, but I'm afraid. Will this tablet play the facebook's videos?
    I'd hate to spend money and don't solve this problem.
    Could someone who is nokia 2520 owner test it for me, please?
    11-23-2014 04:52 PM
  22. GizmoEV's Avatar
    Hi everyone!
    Sorry my English, I'm brazilian.
    Could someone help me?
    I have gave a Galaxy tab 3 to my wife, but she is sad, because it doesn't play the facebook's videos.
    I'd love to give a Nokia 2520 tab to her, but I'm afraid. Will this tablet play the facebook's videos?
    I'd hate to spend money and don't solve this problem.
    Could someone who is nokia 2520 owner test it for me, please?
    I have a 2520 made for the US market. It plays Facebook videos when using both the Facebook App and when using Internet Explorer to access Facebook. I am also able to play videos which are run through Adobe Flash player.
    11-23-2014 07:18 PM
  23. Melissa Brown5's Avatar
    This is unedited, just a cut and paste job (not the whole post, however). For me $600.00 is a huge loss, so I won't be in the market for at least close to another year. It will probably be the Surface Pro 3 in 2016 as it's priced 4 times the Nokia, which performed well, once I figured everything out, by the way. Now, however, that it is broken, I see that the customer service division is lacking. Think of a heart that doesn't pump. That is about the level of service you can expect from Nokia. Microsoft (via phone is not much better, I've waited 25 minutes for a Microsoft service rep and still got nothing). So, before I buy another machine, I'll have to research the customer service reports. Barnes and Noble, though they lost out with the Nook, had excellent customer service and replacement terms I simply disposed of the last one I got because of the constant problems I had with it quitting.


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    Sorry, I lost track of the blog I wanted to post, but go to any blog and you'll find the same or try my FB page: Melissa Brown, see the Chinese lantern profile to read the post from today. Happy Shopping

    Question for GizmoEv. I will be replacing my broken NL 2520 in 2016. My primary needs are for video, but I am interested in the tap and touch tech, which I do use for PDF data and hope to use for transferring purchase data from my phone to tablet. If you have an opinion on it, which of the Surface Pro's do you think most resemble the Nokia 2520 for speed and picture quality. I know the entry level won't due. That would be delusional, right?

    I don't want to burst any bubbles here. NL 2520 is a great product for the money (even at full price, which I paid). Unfortunately, this product was not developed by MS and as an auxiliary product to MS, I suspect it will be phased out in favor of promoting the rival product the Surface Pro 3. I have had countless problems finding information about repairs (which I did not have with Nook). I finally opted for the self-ship option and the problem melted away. DO NOT BOTHER trying to call. No one will answer. You'll be hold until God answers. Anyway, now I have to wait for them to email me specific shipping instructions (with free-ship option, they send you a box - in 2 days - did not happen, today was day 6). Bottom line - Great product for the money, but since I purchased it in September and all the functions except sound ceased, it amounts to renting it for $200.00 per month, especially if the service is as poor as I have read. I will likely wait at least 3 weeks. Nokia took care of me within seven days, in fact, sent a new product. If the have corrected their issues, I might go in for that again. Any advice will be appreciated.

    PLEASE SHOPPERS. Hold your credit cards. The acquisition of Nokia 2520 means that Nokia is just waiting for MS finish the transition of the purchase of a previous competitor. MS has no reason to enthusiastically honor the contracts of Nokia 2520 tablet users. The Surface Pro 3 is the recent comp and the entry point for quality is 3 to 4 times that of the Nokia. If you end up needing to return your Nokia for repairs - you'll be sadly disappointed at the lack of service. Nokia is now flooded with service contracts they either cannot fulfill now or are simply no longer interested in doing so. One Nokia client has had so many problems - first, they returned it to him damaged and unrepaired and with a scratched screen. They took responsibility for it, but 3 weeks on, he has nothing and no estimated turn around time to get it back. So, hold on or buy one for half the price and if it fails within 3 months you will have rented it for 100 dollars per month rather than 200, which currently is my situation. I am still waiting for shipping instructions to arrive via e-mail. Why not just post shipping instructions on the same site? I'm telling you, it is to circumvent, forestall and frustrate you until you miss your warranty deadline or until you simply give up. I see lawsuits waiting and a settlement coming. So, if you've already made your purchase and it's too late for you to return it - then save your boxes and receipts. Microsoft and Nokia will probably have a settlement in a few years. The same happened wit people that had accounts with Barnes and Nobles (through Nook) and lost the books they ordered when the devices continued to fail.
    Last edited by Guytronic; 12-01-2014 at 04:29 PM.
    12-01-2014 02:30 PM
  24. greek64's Avatar
    Don't do that. Nokia's service department is in shambles. Anyone having their tablets repaired face a reduced staff thanks to the MS acquisition. I smell a rat. MS just wanted to eliminate the cheaper comp to their Surface Pro, my first choice until a Verizon store sold mr the Nokia 2520. Now I wish I had the Surf P3. That said, I don't know the turn around time average for MS repairs or replacement products. I'll have to check on that.
    Last edited by greek64; 12-01-2014 at 10:29 PM. Reason: spelling errors
    12-01-2014 10:19 PM
  25. vlad0's Avatar
    I've had mine for a few months now and I like it a lot. The battery life, outdoor visibility, and the LTE modem are enough for me to not even consider another tablet. The Surface Pro 3 is the only one, and I will probably upgrade to that once they add LTE support to the line.

    I had a problem with it crashing/not waking up from sleep for a while but it kind of went away on its own. Not sure what happened or what I did..
    12-16-2014 10:33 PM
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