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  1. F2a's Avatar
    Hi, I have a Lumia 520 on AT&T with no data package. When the phone first booted I checked the box to NOT use a data connection. Everything works great except I cannot send or receive picture messages. I've tried various internet and APN settings I've found around the web but nothing as worked. Does anyone have this working?
    12-31-2013 03:12 PM
  2. madyrocksin's Avatar
    Checking the box NOT to use data connection, won't that totally stop your data transfer ?? and Picture messages will need data connection. Am i missing something here ???
    12-31-2013 03:17 PM
  3. F2a's Avatar
    You can send picture messages without data. They use MMS.
    12-31-2013 03:21 PM
  4. Sooner Al's Avatar
    12-31-2013 03:59 PM
  5. tgp's Avatar
    You can send picture messages without data. They use MMS.
    No. MMS uses data.
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    12-31-2013 04:02 PM
  6. Microsoftjunkie's Avatar
    I agree with what "tgp" said. Picture messaging definitely uses data. How else would you send a picture?
    12-31-2013 04:04 PM
  7. WPmunkey's Avatar
    MMS uses data. It does not count against your data allotment but MMS needs some type of data available. WiFi doesn't count unfortunately.
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    12-31-2013 04:05 PM
  8. lucas.scott's Avatar
    No. MMS uses data.
    This is correct.
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    12-31-2013 04:11 PM
  9. F2a's Avatar
    Oh ok, well dang it's going to be almost impossible to turn data on to enable MMS but not let other things use data such as synching email etc.
    12-31-2013 04:19 PM
  10. Sooner Al's Avatar
    Oh ok, well dang it's going to be almost impossible to turn data on to enable MMS but not let other things use data such as synching email etc.
    If your connected to a WiFi network email, web surfing, etc will use that first and will only use the data connection if the WiFi link is lost. I have a $40 200 MByte data plan from AT&T and have never come close to going over because I use a lot of WiFi connections around town, at friends and at home with my AT&T Lumia 520.
    12-31-2013 04:37 PM
  11. jamrock60's Avatar
    You can't send mms without data connection

    Sent from my 920 using Tapatalk
    12-31-2013 04:42 PM
  12. F2a's Avatar
    If I had AT&T put a data block on the account and then turn the data connection on in the phone settings I wonder if I could achieve my goal?
    12-31-2013 09:52 PM
  13. lucas.scott's Avatar
    No. It actually needs the data connection. Not just a settings toggle to be on. You could use something like Whatsapp or any other messaging app though as long as the recipients also have it. MMS through the carrier is impossible without data.
    01-01-2014 10:03 AM
  14. Devmer11's Avatar
    No. It actually needs the data connection. Not just a settings toggle to be on. You could use something like Whatsapp or any other messaging app though as long as the recipients also have it. MMS through the carrier is impossible without data.
    that's incorrect I have a Lumia 520 ATT on the 25 dollar monthly plan no data plan so long as the toggle for data is on it's fine
    01-02-2014 07:42 PM
  15. Devmer11's Avatar
    Data is NOT required it doesn't use it I guess it just needs to know it's on my old Lumia 900 was the same way
    01-02-2014 07:43 PM
  16. lucas.scott's Avatar
    Data is NOT required it doesn't use it I guess it just needs to know it's on my old Lumia 900 was the same way
    You may be on a pay per message plan with that 25 bucks then. I'm going to do some further testing on this tomorrow.
    01-02-2014 09:39 PM
  17. tgp's Avatar
    that's incorrect I have a Lumia 520 ATT on the 25 dollar monthly plan no data plan so long as the toggle for data is on it's fine
    Data is still required. MMS needs mobile data. You have the $25 GoPhone plan? This includes MMS service. This would mean that your phone will get data for MMS only, similar to a feature phone without a data plan.
    01-02-2014 10:01 PM
  18. Devmer11's Avatar
    I'm on the 25 dollar monthly plan unlimited texting that's all no mobile data at all when I send mms in my account it says data but says 0$
    01-03-2014 01:49 AM
  19. Devmer11's Avatar
    screenshot-12-.jpg screenshot-13-.jpg i'm not sure why but you Have to have Mobile Data on to use the MMS Service while it does not charge me and instead uses my Messaging
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    01-03-2014 02:03 AM
  20. WPmunkey's Avatar
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ID:	53401 i'm not sure why but you Have to have Mobile Data on to use the MMS Service while it does not charge me and instead uses my Messaging
    Just trust us.
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    01-03-2014 11:42 AM
  21. F2a's Avatar
    I'm on the 25 dollar monthly plan unlimited texting that's all no mobile data at all when I send mms in my account it says data but says 0$
    Interesting, do you have anything else on the phone that might try to use mobile data in the background such as email or some sort of backup?
    01-03-2014 03:10 PM
  22. Devmer11's Avatar
    I tested by leaving the house turning on WiFi and opening a web page it goes to a redirect page that says that if I would like to use mobile data I can purchase a data plan
    01-03-2014 03:28 PM
  23. F2a's Avatar
    Interesting, thanks Devmer11! That's a good setup you have going.
    01-03-2014 03:31 PM
  24. Devmer11's Avatar
    wp_20140103.png Here is a screencap of the Page :) I guess AT&T doesn't want customers to know it or something
    01-03-2014 03:34 PM
  25. Patrick Naples's Avatar
    I just don't understand WHY we need to use Data for group and picture messages (MMS).
    I had a droid before and didn't have to use it. My friends who have Iphones don't have to either.
    I'll probably be switching back to droid when I'm eligible for an upgrade. I waste too much data with the windows phone
    04-03-2014 03:27 PM
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