11-17-2014 03:33 AM
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  1. andrygun's Avatar
    Right.. Just realized it can be downloaded although with a few limitations.. Thanks for letting me know 😊
    11-13-2014 06:22 AM
  2. Chris_Kez's Avatar
    Since they're using the sign it's an indication they're in the UK, which means unless they own a L730/5 L830, L930 or running DP they don't have Cortana.

    So though it's a great feature there are many who don't know about 'Cortana's' features because they don't have it.
    I recognized that the OP is from the UK, but I also know that lots of folks are running the Developer Preview and using Cortana. With just a few minutes of research he could be one of them. I thought my link might be the helpful hint to start him on his quest. :)
    11-13-2014 07:58 AM
  3. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I recognized that the OP is from the UK, but I also know that lots of folks are running the Developer Preview and using Cortana. With just a few minutes of research he could be one of them. I thought my link might be the helpful hint to start him on his quest. :)
    I think if they had Cortana they might have mentioned it. Also there's many who don't want DP or are scared to get it for whatever reason.

    I agree people should research prior to posting things on this forum but this place is a bit of dumping ground and when people are upset they tend to use this places as their soapbox. :P
    Laura Knotek and ven07 like this.
    11-13-2014 08:49 AM
  4. jmshub's Avatar
    I understand OP is frustrated, and if he wants to switch to a different smartphone platform, then he should. It's not my job to try to make everyone like Windows Phone, nor do I get upset if it isn't a perfect fit for someone and they'd prefer to switch to Android or iOS. Release that it is frustrating for us who do like WP that circumstances have made it that the exact feature that he finds lacking is available, but not to everyone due to regional restrictions of Cortana, and of course, the carrier's inability or unwillingness to update in a timely manner.

    Furthermore, as LaRue said, people only come in here to rant when they have issues, whether a major problem or a minor annoyance, it's the same level of reaction for most people. What sucks is that credit is never given for the things that Microsoft does as well as, or much better than competing smartphones. Last night, a friend texted me to say that we have a gig on Dec 13 from 5 to 11. 5 to 11 was underlined, I was able to tap that, and it was ready to add to my calendar. The time, date, location and subject were automatically filled with information from the SMS message. I don't know if Android or iOS have this same feature, but it was amazing! It's literally the easiest way to add an event to your calendar that there is. Two taps of the screen and it's added. I cannot recall when this ability was added to Windows Phone, but I use it a lot, and it blows my mind every time.
    11-13-2014 09:51 AM
  5. ohgood's Avatar
    Yup.. Iphone 6 is indeed much better than lumia 520.

    Regarding the maps, I used google maps for 5 years and it was superb. The only thing better for Here is the offline capability. Im in Australia 😊

    For eg, you can simply type a shop in google maps and it will navigate you there.. While in Here, you might not find the shop in the map, then you google it (irony), then get the address and put it in Here.

    Just my 2 cents
    if I'm navIgating to a shop, online is fine. for most rides/hiking, here and Google are useless. let's think of them as "urban helpers" instead of mapping apps.

    :thumbup:
    Laura Knotek and eusty like this.
    11-13-2014 10:17 AM
  6. RobinPaul's Avatar
    I found it better and you can continue your work!
    ​yet Android also has Here Maps now :)
    11-13-2014 01:29 PM
  7. stephen_az's Avatar
    1. Here map/drive are way better than Google maps!
    2. Have you ever heard of Cortana and Quiet Hours?

    I sometimes feel folks just want to pass their time by ranting WP for no reasons😃
    While I think the OPs position is rather silly, I think the actual award for "what could you possibly be thinking" would go to anyone who would say Here Drive is better than any mapping product. In my experience, it gives the iPhone maps app a run for its money as the most embarrassing. It doesn't matter where I go, most directions will eventually devolve into some version of they are so bad they are funny. Most recent was calling it up while heading to the late FedEx depot near the El Paso Airport. Following Here Drive directions literally adds 25 minutes onto the drive because the system has not been updated to recognize the direct road that goes to the location (been there for quite awhile).

    Most laughable though were those to get to a scenic overlook in the Franklin Mountain in El Paso. Some day I will record the route and post. To make a long story short, the Here Drive directions instruct you to take the Cotton Rd exit off I-10, proceed straight for a half mile and then turn right. The off ramp is not a half mile long (barely 250 yards) and then ends at an intersection where you can only turn left. If you were to try turning right, you would hit (in order): a substantial fence, the Southern Pacific Railroad, another substantial fence, the Rio Grande, and the Mexican border.

    I was hoping that the Here Drive fiasco of bad directions was limited to the Phoenix metro area, but the directions seem equally bad wherever I go in the west. Whether it be my phone telling me to make a U turn for literally a third of the drive between Scottsdale and Payson, AZ because it insisted the fastest way to get from Phoenix to Alamosa CO was the longest via I-17 and Flagstaff (by any measure longest and slowest); or directing me onto a road in El Paso that goes to a Fort Bliss gate (was not going to Fort Bliss); or failing to understand that the only thing to the right off a ramp is Mexico; it is a just a bad joke. In my experience its only value is for amusement.
    11-13-2014 01:29 PM
  8. Ashish Gupta888's Avatar
    While I think the OPs position is rather silly, I think the actual award for "what could you possibly be thinking" would go to anyone who would say Here Drive is better than any mapping product. In my experience, it gives the iPhone maps app a run for its money as the most embarrassing. It doesn't matter where I go, most directions will eventually devolve into some version of they are so bad they are funny. Most recent was calling it up while heading to the late FedEx depot near the El Paso Airport. Following Here Drive directions literally adds 25 minutes onto the drive because the system has not been updated to recognize the direct road that goes to the location (been there for quite awhile).



    Most laughable though were those to get to a scenic overlook in the Franklin Mountain in El Paso. Some day I will record the route and post. To make a long story short, the Here Drive directions instruct you to take the Cotton Rd exit off I-10, proceed straight for a half mile and then turn right. The off ramp is not a half mile long (barely 250 yards) and then ends at an intersection where you can only turn left. If you were to try turning right, you would hit (in order): a substantial fence, the Southern Pacific Railroad, another substantial fence, the Rio Grande, and the Mexican border.



    I was hoping that the Here Drive fiasco of bad directions was limited to the Phoenix metro area, but the directions seem equally bad wherever I go in the west. Whether it be my phone telling me to make a U turn for literally a third of the drive between Scottsdale and Payson, AZ because it insisted the fastest way to get from Phoenix to Alamosa CO was the longest via I-17 and Flagstaff (by any measure longest and slowest); or directing me onto a road in El Paso that goes to a Fort Bliss gate (was not going to Fort Bliss); or failing to understand that the only thing to the right off a ramp is Mexico; it is a just a bad joke. In my experience its only value is for amusement.

    Well, as I said in my earlier posts, its working absolutely better than google maps and I am not gonna change my thoughts just because you had a not so good experience with Here maps. It depends upon region to region and in my region I personally found it the best navigation app.
    11-13-2014 01:41 PM
  9. sleeve22's Avatar
    But that requires me to become American does it not?
    There is a standalone quiet hours app that does not require Cortana. I have had the quiet hours app installed long before Cortana.
    11-13-2014 01:53 PM
  10. Loco5150's Avatar
    There is a standalone quiet hours app that does not require Cortana. I have had the quiet hours app installed long before Cortana.
    Is that the same app that leaves vibration on?
    11-13-2014 01:59 PM
  11. dzukela's Avatar
    Here Maps better than Google Maps? Please don't me make me laugh when I'm at work.
    Google maps is ****. But you will find it soon.
    11-13-2014 02:04 PM
  12. sleeve22's Avatar
    Is that the same app that leaves vibration on?
    I am actually not quite sure about vibrate.
    11-13-2014 02:16 PM
  13. sleeve22's Avatar
    Is that the same app that leaves vibration on?
    Just checked the standalone version and when it opens now it says not compatible with WP8.1. So I take back my earlier comment.
    11-13-2014 02:20 PM
  14. Loco5150's Avatar
    Just checked that from the store also, as i have cortana only because of quiet hours. I would like to use my own region.

    I had that app when it came out. Pretty useless for anyone who has vibration on, like most do I guess. It's nice to wake up to that sound, what comes when your phone vibrates on the table.
    11-13-2014 02:28 PM
  15. realwarder's Avatar
    When I moved from an iPhone to Windows Phone this was very annoying.

    Hopefully your mobile provider (O2 etc) will push out the Windows 8.1 update as that includes Quiet Hours which does exactly what you want as well as making your phone better in many ways.
    11-13-2014 02:52 PM
  16. Jazmac's Avatar
    You got the most inexpensive WP made and you got beef with Windows Phone to the point of dismissing it in a post? Somehow, I don't believe any of it. I'm calling it.
    Kevin Rush and realwarder like this.
    11-13-2014 09:51 PM
  17. Blu3V3nom07's Avatar
    There's nothing that's going to stop me from getting a Windows 10 phone next year.
    11-13-2014 10:28 PM
  18. ShreyansShah's Avatar
    i request all the people to calm down. this is an eternal war going on.. we will fuel it by calmly discussing it rather than quarrel, so that we will be able to enjoy it more.

    further, don take it personally #N_LaRUE, why so much u hate to WP? i mean, all others are quite junior to u, u seems quite senior user (counting on ur posts and reading a lot of them since long), i thought u must be in favor of WP.
    11-13-2014 11:38 PM
  19. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    further, don take it personally #N_LaRUE, why so much u hate to WP? i mean, all others are quite junior to u, u seems quite senior user (counting on ur posts and reading a lot of them since long), i thought u must be in favor of WP.
    Who said I hated WP? People need to learn the difference between criticism and hate.

    People who buy low/mid end phones think WP is fantastic. Great, I'm happy for you and I'm glad you like the experience on low/mid end phones and what you get out of them.

    From a flagship perspective WP has been greatly disappointing this year and there is still a lot needed on WP. No I don't want to hear WP doesn't need great hardware.

    In the two years I've been using WP it's been like being on Symbian again. You feel like you're in a niche OS using niche handsets. Yes things have gotten better but there's a long way to go. MS has been quite disappointing and though many expect miracles from W10 I'd say it will take more than cross platform apps to make WP competitive.

    That's my personal opinion and I'm entitled to it.
    11-14-2014 05:48 AM
  20. Witness's Avatar
    ...Learn from the masters - the iphone has a silence button (single press)...
    By all means, go spend hundreds of dollars more to get that little switch to get that silence button instead of the <$100 L520. When you do get an iPhone, you'll lose a different switch/button you may have become accustomed to on the L520. A button that launches and snaps a photo.... "Simples!".
    11-14-2014 01:23 PM
  21. fdalbor's Avatar
    Everyone is entitled to their opinion. One way or the other. I own several phones and like all of them. None are perfect but they do what I want them to do. I use WP and Android so I know how they differ and I hear the SAME complaints on the Android forum that I hear on the WP forum. I don't comment on negative posts as it does little good for the poster or the readers. Its just the way it is and always will be. Good luck with whatever you get I wish you the best if you stay or don't stay.
    Jazmac likes this.
    11-14-2014 02:24 PM
  22. Jazmac's Avatar
    Everyone is entitled to their opinion. One way or the other. I own several phones and like all of them. None are perfect but they do what I want them to do. I use WP and Android so I know how they differ and I hear the SAME complaints on the Android forum that I hear on the WP forum. I don't comment on negative posts as it does little good for the poster or the readers. Its just the way it is and always will be. Good luck with whatever you get I wish you the best if you stay or don't stay.
    This ^^^
    11-14-2014 02:32 PM
  23. S T1's Avatar
    I'm not sure what you are talking about, but my Lumia 1520's alarm can be set anyway I wish. its 100% customizable, to go off and on anytime of day or night. My wife's Lumia 1020 and my kids Lumia 521's are all the same way, as well. We are all running Win8.1. Also you can talk to Cortana as well, letting her know, you wish the phn to be in silent mode. simple and way easy.
    BTW, Crapple iJUNK is way behind other brands. what's in the Overrated, way hyped, extremely overpriced so ppl think its soooo special, absolute garbage, that was designed mainly for iSHEEP that have no clue, many of iJUNK features were used on Windows or android phns years ago. NOTHING iJUNK has is or was their own idea, NOTHING. Even their so call iJUNK design was stolen from Sony,(just search for """APPLE COPIED SONY""" and click on the images). All apple does is copy other brands, and fool, mislead, pretend,...........it was all their own idea. NOOOOOT
    11-14-2014 07:38 PM
  24. ShreyansShah's Avatar
    Who said I hated WP? People need to learn the difference between criticism and hate.

    People who buy low/mid end phones think WP is fantastic. Great, I'm happy for you and I'm glad you like the experience on low/mid end phones and what you get out of them.

    From a flagship perspective WP has been greatly disappointing this year and there is still a lot needed on WP. No I don't want to hear WP doesn't need great hardware.

    In the two years I've been using WP it's been like being on Symbian again. You feel like you're in a niche OS using niche handsets. Yes things have gotten better but there's a long way to go. MS has been quite disappointing and though many expect miracles from W10 I'd say it will take more than cross platform apps to make WP competitive.

    That's my personal opinion and I'm entitled to it.
    dear,

    i do appriciate your opinion and definitely value it. in fact, it made me understand different views better. i already said that, i do read many of ur posts.
    and i am myself interested in fueling this discussion (just dont want it to be a catfight), so that we get better understanding.
    i found many new apps and features i was not aware about from this kind of discussions.
    11-16-2014 11:37 PM
  25. Bobvfr's Avatar
    What I don't understand is why someone who has a 520 and now wants an iPhone (Hardly a direct comparison on specifications) would take the trouble to join a forum and for his first post, post a "That's it I am off thread", well I suppose it worked if the intention is to raise blood pressure among some of you
    11-17-2014 12:45 AM
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