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  1. Aryankr21's Avatar
    But this time Microsoft cannot afford to not give w10 update to Lumia 520 users because if they don't provide the update they will anger their main part of widows phone consumer. This wil also send a wrong message to other new consumer that MS doesn't give update to low end phones which will be equal to android user with low end phones who never get update. Then they will only go for android because they at least get lots of apps
    RumoredNow and LumiaWorld like this.
    01-24-2015 11:04 AM
  2. Athull's Avatar
    But this time Microsoft cannot afford to not give w10 update to Lumia 520 users because if they don't provide the update they will anger their main part of widows phone consumer. This wil also send a wrong message to other new consumer that MS doesn't give update to low end phones which will be equal to android user with low end phones who never get update. Then they will only go for android because they at least get lots of apps
    Well u have a valid point but saying that 520 users will feel like they are treated like low end androids is wrong.
    520 went from WP 8 Gdr1 > Amber(gdr2) > Black(gdr3) > Cyan (WP 8.1) > Denim (WP 8.1.1).
    That's more than even some android flagships.
    But it will definitely get the W10 anyway.
    01-24-2015 11:21 AM
  3. Aryankr21's Avatar
    Well u have a valid point but saying that 520 users will feel like they are treated like low end androids is wrong.
    520 went from WP 8 Gdr1 > Amber(gdr2) > Black(gdr3) > Cyan (WP 8.1) > Denim (WP 8.1.1).
    That's more than even some android flagships.
    But it will definitely get the W10 anyway.
    Yes ur right I agree with u but people now only give less recommendation to WP and if Microsoft will itself doesn't take responsibility to update Lumia 520 it will make it even worse for next WP consumers
    Sujith Raj t likes this.
    01-24-2015 12:23 PM
  4. rollindice's Avatar
    But really... I cannot understand on why some tech sites would spread such false information...
    cause many tech sites hate Microsoft. typical example check this review of the 830 on this site, if you read through, the review you'll want to know WTF is this reviewer saying, so many errors in his review.

    Nokia Lumia 830 review | Mobile Phones Review | TechRadar
    01-24-2015 03:41 PM
  5. viswanathansri's Avatar
    I would like to differ with this point ... I would say that when Microsoft says "All modern WP will get WP10" , its says that all phones ( irrespective of RAM ) which run the next-gen Snapdragon processors will get WP10 ... That includes 435,532,530,535,630,635,638 all devices which run on Snapdragon 200/400 which are considered next-gen when compared to Snapdragon S4 found on 520/620/720 etc ... Even now , many WP8.1 features run only on next gen hardware specific devices ... For ex. Lumia 1020 didnt get the camera updates as 930/1520 got because its processor didnt support it even though 1020 had 2GB RAM ....
    So finally it comes down to whether the processor can handle the OS rather than the RAM shortage .
    01-24-2015 09:51 PM
  6. Aryankr21's Avatar
    I would like to differ with this point ... I would say that when Microsoft says "All modern WP will get WP10" , its says that all phones ( irrespective of RAM ) which run the next-gen Snapdragon processors will get WP10 ... That includes 435,532,530,535,630,635,638 all devices which run on Snapdragon 200/400 which are considered next-gen when compared to Snapdragon S4 found on 520/620/720 etc ... Even now , many WP8.1 features run only on next gen hardware specific devices ... For ex. Lumia 1020 didnt get the camera updates as 930/1520 got because its processor didnt support it even though 1020 had 2GB RAM ....
    So finally it comes down to whether the processor can handle the OS rather than the RAM shortage .
    Can u plz tell me if that my Lumia 525 have next gen snapdragon processor
    01-24-2015 10:20 PM
  7. LumiaWorld's Avatar
    I would like to differ with this point ... I would say that when Microsoft says "All modern WP will get WP10" , its says that all phones ( irrespective of RAM ) which run the next-gen Snapdragon processors will get WP10 ... That includes 435,532,530,535,630,635,638 all devices which run on Snapdragon 200/400 which are considered next-gen when compared to Snapdragon S4 found on 520/620/720 etc ... Even now , many WP8.1 features run only on next gen hardware specific devices ... For ex. Lumia 1020 didnt get the camera updates as 930/1520 got because its processor didnt support it even though 1020 had 2GB RAM ....
    So finally it comes down to whether the processor can handle the OS rather than the RAM shortage .
    Oh my. If ever this will happen I can imagine already the storm that will happen here in Windows Central
    01-24-2015 10:31 PM
  8. Athull's Avatar
    I would like to differ with this point ... I would say that when Microsoft says "All modern WP will get WP10" , its says that all phones ( irrespective of RAM ) which run the next-gen Snapdragon processors will get WP10 ... That includes 435,532,530,535,630,635,638 all devices which run on Snapdragon 200/400 which are considered next-gen when compared to Snapdragon S4 found on 520/620/720 etc ... Even now , many WP8.1 features run only on next gen hardware specific devices ... For ex. Lumia 1020 didnt get the camera updates as 930/1520 got because its processor didnt support it even though 1020 had 2GB RAM ....
    So finally it comes down to whether the processor can handle the OS rather than the RAM shortage .
    This is definitely not the case, u may be missing a point here, the current gen midrange snapdragon 200/400 is nothing more powerful than the last gen S4.
    They may be quad core but being based on Cortex A7 which is a lot more inferior to the cortex A9 based krait processors of S4. Infact 1 cortex A9 core = 2 cortex A7 core. And the only reason some of them are performing better is because of the higher clock but in the case of the 830 its actually weaker than its predecessor the 820 in every way.
    1020 didn't get the camera features of denim update since some of them are limited to a few of the new tech found in SD800/400 and its still rumuored to get some of the new features with W10.
    So processors can never be a limiting matter for WP at the moment.
    Also they said Modern WP because they meant the ones that came with WP8 since these phones were a lot more powerful than the WP7 running phones, if they wanted say only the current phones then they might as well say "Current Generation WP" instead of modern.

    At the end of day its quite obvious that everyone using a WP8/ higher lumia will get W10.
    stenson625 likes this.
    01-24-2015 10:45 PM
  9. Athull's Avatar
    Can u plz tell me if that my Lumia 525 have next gen snapdragon processor
    525 is identical to 520 in every way except ram...
    Aryankr21 likes this.
    01-24-2015 10:55 PM
  10. Asik15's Avatar
    Why People Still Scared of Romour even after MS themself Promised to Update all Modern Devices i.e .. Windows Phone 8 and higher... So that include the X20 Series too ...
    Crap !!!!!
    raycpl and Athull like this.
    01-25-2015 02:09 AM
  11. alex athanasopoulos's Avatar
    Well I guess next time MSFT should list all the Lumia wp (8, 8.1) and start saying these phones can get the w10. "Now lets call for Sumsung, htc etc and tell us about their phone series ;P "

    Oh btw will my Lumia 920 (unlocked, no carrier) get the update? :P please tell me yes or I'll leave wp for ever. Don't do us the same with wp7 and wp8 :P
    01-25-2015 02:19 AM
  12. Asik15's Avatar
    Well I guess next time MSFT should list all the Lumia wp (8, 8.1) and start saying these phones can get the w10. "Now lets call for Sumsung, htc etc and tell us about their phone series ;P "

    Oh btw will my Lumia 920 (unlocked, no carrier) get the update? :P please tell me yes or I'll leave wp for ever. Don't do us the same with wp7 and wp8 :P
    Oh come on Mate Not yu too :P

    well you will get it for sure :)
    01-25-2015 02:25 AM
  13. Nalin Khanduri1's Avatar
    Every Lumia(8/8.1) will be updated to windows 10.As update from one OS to another depends on the Kernel type and the Kernel type of 8/8.1 and 10 is same,so every win 8/8.1 lumia will get the update.Since there would be some restrictions in case of low RAM models and old processors,but update is coming for sure .
    01-25-2015 07:49 AM
  14. Nalin Khanduri1's Avatar
    Take a chill.920 user here too.Win 10 is coming.But mind it,due to the old processor some advance feature will not make a cut..But 10 for sure.Cheers.
    01-25-2015 07:58 AM
  15. Nalin Khanduri1's Avatar
    wp7 did not come to wp8 due to different kernel type,but win8/8.1 and 10 have the same kernel,so we have another reason to celebrate.
    01-25-2015 08:00 AM
  16. Nalin Khanduri1's Avatar
    so you wanna say 920,925,820 and 1020 won't get 10?
    you are completely wrong.
    These models will surely lack some features(old hardwares) but win 10 is for these too.
    01-25-2015 08:04 AM
  17. Athull's Avatar
    Take a chill.920 user here too.Win 10 is coming.But mind it,due to the old processor some advance feature will not make a cut..But 10 for sure.Cheers.
    Lol, if u were referring to Alex's post above then it was not for real, he was being sarcastic ;)
    01-25-2015 08:28 AM
  18. sam17ub's Avatar
    Answer is definitely NO! Only Lumia x3x series devices, along with Lumia 1520 and 1020 will receive the Windows 10 upgrade. And by that I mean through the Developer Preview/Insider channel. So all other Lumia x2x devices such as 520/620/720/820/920/1320 won't be upgradable to Windows 10. Not even through the Developer Preview.

    ​I hope that helps.
    01-25-2015 08:53 AM
  19. someone2639's Avatar
    Answer is definitely NO! Only Lumia x3x series devices, along with Lumia 1520 and 1020 will receive the Windows 10 upgrade. And by that I mean through the Developer Preview/Insider channel. So all other Lumia x2x devices such as 520/620/720/820/920/1320 won't be upgradable to Windows 10. Not even through the Developer Preview.

    ​I hope that helps.
    Reduced features*
    01-25-2015 08:55 AM
  20. sam17ub's Avatar
    Reduced features*
    The reduced features apply to the low-end x3x devices like Lumia 630/535/435 etc. Those phones will receive Windows 10 but with limited features. But x2x series devices simply will not receive the upgrade. They are stuck with WP 8.1
    01-25-2015 08:57 AM
  21. SammyD97's Avatar
    Answer is definitely NO! Only Lumia x3x series devices, along with Lumia 1520 and 1020 will receive the Windows 10 upgrade. And by that I mean through the Developer Preview/Insider channel. So all other Lumia x2x devices such as 520/620/720/820/920/1320 won't be upgradable to Windows 10. Not even through the Developer Preview.

    ​I hope that helps.
    Reduced features*
    01-25-2015 09:02 AM
  22. Zulfigar's Avatar
    The reduced features apply to the low-end x3x devices like Lumia 630/535/435 etc. Those phones will receive Windows 10 but with limited features. But x2x series devices simply will not receive the upgrade. They are stuck with WP 8.1
    Is that why the 1020 was pictured on the wall to receive Windows 10?

    Wait, that's not right, unless ALL Windows 8/8.1 devices will get Windows 10.

    Not won't, not some, but all. ;)
    01-25-2015 09:03 AM
  23. Asik15's Avatar
    The reduced features apply to the low-end x3x devices like Lumia 630/535/435 etc. Those phones will receive Windows 10 but with limited features. But x2x series devices simply will not receive the upgrade. They are stuck with WP 8.1
    must be Joking !!!! ... Kindly don't post anything like this without a legit Source....

    and How could you say this Confidently ???

    Are you trying to being sarcastic ???

    are you a Insider From Microsoft ??
    01-25-2015 09:03 AM
  24. sam17ub's Avatar
    Is that why the 1020 was pictured on the wall to receive Windows 10?

    Wait, that's not right, unless ALL Windows 8/8.1 devices will get Windows 10.

    Not won't, not some, but all. ;)
    No, I did mention in my original comment that Lumia 1520 and 1020 are the only x2x series devices that will receive Windows 10. That's because they came out much later than the original x2x series -- 920/820/720/620/520 etc. The original x2x devices won't receive Windows 10.
    01-25-2015 09:06 AM
  25. sam17ub's Avatar
    must be Joking !!!! ... Kindly don't post anything like this without a legit Source....

    and How could you say this Confidently ???

    Are you trying to being sarcastic ???

    are you a Insider From Microsoft ??
    I'm not Microsoft insider, but I say this based on a few observations.

    Firstly, there's the fact that Microsoft says only "modern" Lumias will receive the Windows 10 ugprade. Why didn't they simply say WP8/8.1 devices will get it? That's because the phones that came out in 2012 like Lumia 920/820/520 etc are not considered "modern".

    Secondly, Microsoft originally said when releasing Lumia x2x devices that they'll receive 18 months of support. The 18 months period included WP 8.1 -- hence those updates were provided. But Windows 10 will come out 36 months after those phones were released. It's clearly outside the supported timespan.

    Thirdly, their latest blog clearly says not all WP8 Lumias will be upgradable.

    Fourthly, the only phonse missing in the January 21st conference are the older x2x Lumias. Other than these all other phones were seen running Windows 10.

    Put these things together, and it's easy to conclude why the x2x series won't receive the upgrade. Even through the Developer Preview they won't be upgradable.
    01-25-2015 09:11 AM
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