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  1. Zulfigar's Avatar
    No, I did mention in my original comment that Lumia 1520 and 1020 are the only x2x series devices that will receive Windows 10. That's because they came out much later than the original x2x series -- 920/820/720/620/520 etc. The original x2x devices won't receive Windows 10.
    And that doesn't make sense, so you're saying that the 1020 will get the update but that 920 won't even though the only difference (besides the camera) is the extra gig of ram that not even the 530 has, and yet both will receive 10?

    Then add on the fact that Microsoft themselves said all phones will get it, your blasphemy doesn't add up. Heck, even Daniel said it multiple times.

    So, my question is, what's your source to dishonor Microsoft and Daniel?
    01-25-2015 09:11 AM
  2. arjan wolthuis's Avatar
    No, I did mention in my original comment that Lumia 1520 and 1020 are the only x2x series devices that will receive Windows 10. That's because they came out much later than the original x2x series -- 920/820/720/620/520 etc. The original x2x devices won't receive Windows 10.
    I hope you don't receive any w10 update. MS promised to update all w8 phones
    01-25-2015 09:12 AM
  3. mesamit's Avatar
    No, I did mention in my original comment that Lumia 1520 and 1020 are the only x2x series devices that will receive Windows 10. That's because they came out much later than the original x2x series -- 920/820/720/620/520 etc. The original x2x devices won't receive Windows 10.
    ​source????
    01-25-2015 09:12 AM
  4. untitled007's Avatar
    It was already said that all lumia wp8 devices will get win10 and here comes who said it doesnt, thats whats the problem with the world, we love to argue. Proving whos better than who, why dont we just read and understand.
    arjan wolthuis likes this.
    01-25-2015 09:14 AM
  5. sam17ub's Avatar
    It was already said that all lumia wp8 devices will get win10 and here comes who said it doesnt, thats whats the problem with the world, we love to argue. Proving whos better than who, why dont we just read and understand.
    No Microsoft clearly said not all Lumias will get Windows 10. Majority will. The ones that will be left out are 520/620/720/820/920/1320
    01-25-2015 09:21 AM
  6. Zulfigar's Avatar
    No Microsoft clearly said not all Lumias will get Windows 10. Majority will. The ones that will be left out are 520/620/720/820/920/1320
    That's due to carriers, sadly. We've all seen what happened to the Lumia 810; it got left behind at the Amber firmware because of T-Mobile (thankfully, you can still get the latest update with the Developer Preview program).

    So that list might solely be the carrier versions. Though, you do bring a point that not all of those phones are held by their carriers anymore (Verizon phones...).

    http://www.windowscentral.com/all-wi...lagship-summer
    01-25-2015 09:22 AM
  7. Aslan Tsarikate's Avatar
    Well I guess yes, Lumia 520 is getting Windows 10
    01-25-2015 09:23 AM
  8. Asik15's Avatar
    No Microsoft clearly said not all Lumias will get Windows 10. Majority will. The ones that will be left out are 520/620/720/820/920/1320
    mirosoft just mentioned all Modern Devices i.e Windows 8 and Higher ...
    01-25-2015 09:27 AM
  9. SammyD97's Avatar
    I'm not Microsoft insider, but I say this based on a few observations.

    Firstly, there's the fact that Microsoft says only "modern" Lumias will receive the Windows 10 ugprade. Why didn't they simply say WP8/8.1 devices will get it? That's because the phones that came out in 2012 like Lumia 920/820/520 etc are not considered "modern".

    Secondly, Microsoft originally said when releasing Lumia x2x devices that they'll receive 18 months of support. The 18 months period included WP 8.1 -- hence those updates were provided. But Windows 10 will come out 36 months after those phones were released. It's clearly outside the supported timespan.

    Thirdly, their latest blog clearly says not all WP8 Lumias will be upgradable.

    Fourthly, the only phonse missing in the January 21st conference are the older x2x Lumias. Other than these all other phones were seen running Windows 10.

    Put these things together, and it's easy to conclude why the x2x series won't receive the upgrade. Even through the Developer Preview they won't be upgradable.
    Unless you have a legitimate link where Microsoft says this, your observations mean squat.
    01-25-2015 09:28 AM
  10. sam17ub's Avatar
    mirosoft just mentioned all Modern Devices i.e Windows 8 and Higher ...
    No, if they meant all WP8 devices they'd simply say all WP8 Lumias will receive the Windows 10 update. But they intentionally used the "modern Lumias" phrase, because some of the older WP8 Lumias won't get Windows 10.
    01-25-2015 09:30 AM
  11. sam17ub's Avatar
    Unless you have a legitimate link where Microsoft says this, your observations mean squat.
    My observation is actually more well researched and thought-out than the people on here saying "ALL WP8 devices can get Windows 10 through Developer Preview" -- Microsoft NEVER said that.
    01-25-2015 09:31 AM
  12. Athull's Avatar
    I'm not Microsoft insider, but I say this based on a few observations.

    Firstly, there's the fact that Microsoft says only "modern" Lumias will receive the Windows 10 ugprade. Why didn't they simply say WP8/8.1 devices will get it? That's because the phones that came out in 2012 like Lumia 920/820/520 etc are not considered "modern".

    Secondly, Microsoft originally said when releasing Lumia x2x devices that they'll receive 18 months of support. The 18 months period included WP 8.1 -- hence those updates were provided. But Windows 10 will come out 36 months after those phones were released. It's clearly outside the supported timespan.

    Thirdly, their latest blog clearly says not all WP8 Lumias will be upgradable.

    Fourthly, the only phonse missing in the January 21st conference are the older x2x Lumias. Other than these all other phones were seen running Windows 10.

    Put these things together, and it's easy to conclude why the x2x series won't receive the upgrade. Even through the Developer Preview they won't be upgradable.
    So u just made ur assumptions and is trying to convince everyone that's the truth when there is no real proof?
    And u clearly didn't read the news back in the day when they talked about18 months support.
    They said once a major update is delivered the 18month clock gets reset for another 18months. So with Wp 8.1 the clock was reset.
    Also as I said above modern WP meaning all WP 8 and later lumias since WP 7 lumias are considered the older lumias.
    Plus all MS official statmemts leading to event said all Lumias running WP 8 or higher are upgradable and even in the event they said the same so please stop spreading false info....
    01-25-2015 09:40 AM
  13. Asik15's Avatar
    My observation is actually more well researched and thought-out than the people on here saying "ALL WP8 devices can get Windows 10 through Developer Preview" -- Microsoft NEVER said that.
    Modern Meant to Windows phone 8 Devices not x20 or x30 series or whatever ...
    01-25-2015 09:43 AM
  14. Harrie-S's Avatar
    My observation is actually more well researched and thought-out than the people on here saying "ALL WP8 devices can get Windows 10 through Developer Preview" -- Microsoft NEVER said that.
    LOL Of cource your research is more "well researched". LOL.
    Microsoft just forget to clearly say that about 75 % of the current Luminas will not get windows 10.
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    01-25-2015 09:44 AM
  15. Asik15's Avatar
    LOL Of cource your research is more "well researched". LOL.
    Microsoft just forget to clearly say that about 75 % of the current Luminas will not get windows 10.
    Lol ... :D Man you are right!!! More than 50 % of lumias are from x20 Series i guess !!!
    01-25-2015 10:11 AM
  16. alex athanasopoulos's Avatar
    I'm not Microsoft insider, but I say this based on a few observations.

    Firstly, there's the fact that Microsoft says only "modern" Lumias will receive the Windows 10 ugprade. Why didn't they simply say WP8/8.1 devices will get it? That's because the phones that came out in 2012 like Lumia 920/820/520 etc are not considered "modern".

    Secondly, Microsoft originally said when releasing Lumia x2x devices that they'll receive 18 months of support. The 18 months period included WP 8.1 -- hence those updates were provided. But Windows 10 will come out 36 months after those phones were released. It's clearly outside the supported timespan.

    Thirdly, their latest blog clearly says not all WP8 Lumias will be upgradable.

    Fourthly, the only phonse missing in the January 21st conference are the older x2x Lumias. Other than these all other phones were seen running Windows 10.

    Put these things together, and it's easy to conclude why the x2x series won't receive the upgrade. Even through the Developer Preview they won't be upgradable.
    All windows phone are eligible for the w10 update, but that doesn't mean that people wont be screwed over by the carriers and not get the update. MSFT will offer the update but the final word goes to the OEMs and carriers. Think about Lumia icon and Verizon (I feel sorry for the crappy service it offer to our friends).

    The Lumia x20 series isn't that old, for not being able to get most of the features.
    01-25-2015 10:12 AM
  17. sam17ub's Avatar
    Well, if you don't believe what I said just wait till February when the Windows 10 technical preview comes out for phones. I'm pretty sure old Lumia x2x devices won't be upgradable, even through Insider program. Only then will you believe my words.
    01-25-2015 10:19 AM
  18. Asik15's Avatar
    Well, if you don't believe what I said just wait till February when the Windows 10 technical preview comes out for phones. I'm pretty sure old Lumia x2x devices won't be upgradable, even through Insider program. Only then will you believe my words.
    Same Goes for you bro ... lets wait and see You are like your assumptions are more accurate than the big blogs !!!! well lets see
    01-25-2015 10:23 AM
  19. viswanathansri's Avatar
    Lol ... :D Man you are right!!! More than 50 % of lumias are from x20 Series i guess !!!
    Lol bro , but I think you forgot that when WP8 was released , 100% of Lumias were WP7 ... Microsoft didnt hesitate and said "Fu*k off WP7 users" ... It wouldnt hesitate to do it now as well ... Microsoft was intentionally equivocal with its statement !!
    01-25-2015 10:23 AM
  20. Harrie-S's Avatar
    Well, if you don't believe what I said just wait till February when the Windows 10 technical preview comes out for phones. I'm pretty sure old Lumia x2x devices won't be upgradable, even through Insider program. Only then will you believe my words.
    Or you will belief use.
    01-25-2015 10:23 AM
  21. Asik15's Avatar
    Lol bro , but I think you forgot that when WP8 was released , 100% of Lumias were WP7 ... Microsoft didnt hesitate and said "Fu*k off WP7 users" ... It wouldnt hesitate to do it now as well ... Microsoft was intentionally equivocal with its statement !!
    at that times the story where entirely different a whole kernel change which caused that.... but now the case is windows 10 requires a same kernel as wp8 .. :)
    01-25-2015 10:29 AM
  22. poddie's Avatar
    Lot of strange assumptions being made here. If the upgrade is not offered to everyone, I seriously doubt it will be based on what the second digit of your phone is. It would be based on specs. For example, perhaps 512MB devices can't handle the whole update. I would be absolutely shocked if the 920 didn't get it.
    01-25-2015 10:30 AM
  23. SammyD97's Avatar
    My observation is actually more well researched and thought-out than the people on here saying "ALL WP8 devices can get Windows 10 through Developer Preview" -- Microsoft NEVER said that.
    Jean-Baptiste Lamarck's observations were also well researched. To quote an old textbook of mine:
    "Lamarck is included in the study of evolution because he was meticulous in recording observations, gathering information and analyzing his data about many living organisms. His method of scientific enquiry was excellent." It didn't make him right.
    01-25-2015 10:31 AM
  24. ajaya p's Avatar
    If mark logically all windows phone 8 only single small jump to windows phone 8.1 . So I guess all windows phone 8 upgradable to windows 10.
    01-25-2015 11:20 AM
  25. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    No Microsoft clearly said not all Lumias will get Windows 10. Majority will. The ones that will be left out are 520/620/720/820/920/1320
    ​A majority of Windows Phones in use are on that list. If they cut those out, they're cutting out a majority of Windows Phones.
    01-25-2015 12:06 PM
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