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  1. bbtrek's Avatar
    (warning: long winded jumble about my switch to WP8)

    I too was a BlackBerry fan and preached the word of BB and I have also had various Android phones over the years. Too cut costs I used a Android for awhile on Virgin Mobile (locked into unlimited for $25 a month was a great deal) but It came time to update my phone and I switched to T-Mobile and got a Galaxy S3 because I didn't need any of the extra fluff in the S4 and I am cheap. I had considered going back to BlackBerry but thought I'd give the S3 a try. I hated the S3. Not big enough at times and often to big at other times. It just didn't click with me like previous phones. Typing on it was annoying and being a older BB user I was spoiled and I find that a good keyboard (touch or physical) can make or break a phone for me. Finally I just sold the damn thing. I looked at going back to BlackBerry but cost was a factor for me and to be completely honest BB has a few issues going on now and I tend to play things safe and not sure I wanted to buy into the drama going on right now. At the same time I wanted something I could knock business stuff out on.

    I had never had interest in WP8 but the Lumia 521 was such a good price. I watched a few videos and decided to take the plunge. I love this little 521. There are a few things I miss such as a flash because I use that a lot for work as a flashlight. I think button placement could be a bit better and of course I miss the blinking little red light. Other then those few things.... I love this thing. Its fluid and speedy and the keyboard is wonderful to type on.

    I feel that WP8 like BB10 is forward thinking in how we interact with our data and how we communicate. WP8 still needs a lot of work but its going in the right direction. I know it would never happen but I sort of wish Microsoft would just buy BlackBerry and use the best of both to make WP8 even better.

    Anyways I am a BB fanboy and I have had a 521 for about a week and love it and I hope you do too. Enjoy!
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    10-07-2013 06:13 AM
  2. BBerryPowerUser's Avatar
    EDIT: UPS just delivered the phone the moment I pressed send on the following email.
    SO, I am off and running today. I'll update you guys tonight as to what I think. Very exciting. :)

    You sound exactly like me BBTREK. Interesting.

    I'll always be a BB fan. I've had it for too long and loved it. I remember the first time I picked up a curve about 8 years ago (?). You would have thought I wrote the OS. It did exactly what I wanted it to do. I did not even have to read the QuickStart guide. I upgraded to a 9780 two weeks before the official release as I happened to be in a corporate store in Seattle and the manager told me he had one and only one, and I could have it if I wanted. I thought the upgrade to OS6 was outstanding.
    However, over the next three or four years, I kept hearing how awesome iPhone was. So, finally early last year, I bailed and transferred the BlackBerry number to an iPhone 4s. For me, a big mistake. Great OS, great UI, but I had a lot of issues. Missed the fluid business UI of my Berry of course, but all the apps dumping on screens was a big distraction for me. And I just did not like the switching between apps nor the way it handled hard core communications. If I was a younger gamer or a phone "fiddler" I'd probably love it. I ended up re-activating my Berry only 2 months or so after the switch.

    Meanwhile, back about 4 years ago, I also picked up a Virgin Mobile prepay and locked in to their $25 unlimited plan just to see what Android was about. I was with T-Mo on my Berry and wanted a backup on Sprint in case T-Mo had no coverage. I liked Android very much, actually better than iOS, but it could never replace my Berry, as far as I was concerned. I still have the LG Optimus Elite on the $25 plan as a backup, and so I can deposit checks to my bank, which my old Berry will never do.
    I'll probably keep the Elite only because for 25 bucks, it's a great backup phone on CDMA to offset my GSM phone's use footprint.

    I went off T-Mo to save money and went with Simple Mobile's $50 Blackberry plan, now only $40 unlimited. With a 3g Berry, I don't care about when they are cutting back my 4g speed :)
    I like it a lot for the cost savings and it's true BIS, however, Simple never roams to ATT, so you have to be on T-Mo's towers ONLY. That's a drawback if you travel, but I have the Virgin Mobile as a backup so it's not bad.

    With the 521 *that I hope arrives today*, I will pull the SIM out of my Berry and pop it into the 521 to start. My Berry takes a standard SIM, but I also have a Micro Sim I can activate if I need to. Perhaps I'll go back with regular T-Mo Prepay, but perhaps not. I know there is a Sim included with the phone for T-Mo. I don't travel as much as I used to, and I get great coverage where I travel most on regular T-Mo towers, so it's all good.

    Thanks again for the post.
    10-07-2013 09:42 AM
  3. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    OP: interested in hearing your thoughts after a week or two. Looking to add a cheap WP8 device, and looking for the best deal.
    10-07-2013 10:23 AM
  4. BBerryPowerUser's Avatar
    You got it.

    It took me a few hours to get the phone set-up, mostly because I had to set the MMS and APN to Simple Mobile. I had to dig a bit to find these settings, but that's done.

    Initially, I can say the phone is very smooth. It's different than Android and certainly BlackBerry, but I think in a good way. When BlackBerry first hit the scene, or if you went to BlackBerry from iPhone, you sure had to get used to it. I think I will love it.
    Let me use it a while. I'll report back.
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    10-07-2013 12:59 PM
  5. Corepc's Avatar
    My advice is read this for somebody new to Windows Phone Operating System is this. Try and forget anything that you learned how to do with a android and blackberry OS. This is WP much different in all ways.

    Windows Phone 8 | Windows Phone How-to (United States)

    Welcome to WP, WPCentral and 521 forum by the way ..
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    10-07-2013 06:46 PM
  6. BBerryPowerUser's Avatar
    Thanks.

    OK, well the first day was stellar with the phone. It took me about 2 hours to set-up since I run Simple Mobile. If you Google or go to Simple Mobile they say that you can't run the phone on Simple mobile. Absolutely untrue. All you have to do is go into Settings, Set Up a New Cellular Network (Simple) and then change the APN and MMS settings to reflect the Simple Mobile servers. Took me about a 1/2 hour of digging to find the proper settings. I can post them under a separate thread in case anyone else wants to change to Simple Mobile. I may switch to T-Mo, pay the extra 10 bucks, and use WiFi Calling. This is obviously unavailable under Simple Mobile. I used it extensively when my BBerry 9780 was on T-Mo because my office has horrible T-Mo reception. I switched to Google Voice when I went with Simple, but I can't YET get any of the Windows Phone Google Voice apps to work. I'll keep working on that.

    First email I set up was Google G-Mail, and voila! All of my contacts downloaded instantly. Nice. LinkedIn was next (I use Linkedin more than Facebook) and the rest of my L.I. contacts downloaded. Seamless. I linked all my email accounts, including G-Mail. Being used to BBerry, I want all my inbox in one place. To each their own.
    Also, my appointments all downloaded via the G-Mail user name. So nice.

    Luckily for me, I used WP8 Launcher on Android which emulates Windows 8 pretty well. I was really familiar with pinning, sizing, and other novelties of the WP8 architecture.

    I really like the UI. I mean I really like it, but as I said, I love "FlipBoard" so why not love WP8.

    Loaded the apps I need, banking, Bloomberg, Google Voice (not working yet), and about 8 others. All I need for now.

    I'll run it through a full week and report back. But I can say, I'm impressed. Great phone for the money, smooth OS, plenty of apps (for me) and good solid communication feel.
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    10-07-2013 08:12 PM
  7. Corepc's Avatar
    Great, glad that you got the apps you needed and contacts working and all linked into one account (love wp for that). Maybe look at MetroTalk for Google Voice app (not a google fan, only youtube I use)

    I thought we had some others using Simple Mobile has well on their 521 but I searched this forum and did not find any threads really related to it. The apn settings or things like that where needed so please feel free to post them sure they will come in handy for others.

    I have had my 521 since it first appeared back at end of April on HSN. Almost 6 months ago, It has been a great phone and does everything that I need for it do, plus more. I am T-Mobile user and WifiCalling I do not use much since I do not have wifi at home. But Internet Sharing is something I do everyday to my pc. I think Simple Mobile supports Internet sharing has well.
    10-07-2013 09:35 PM
  8. raycpl's Avatar
    +wp !!!
    my advice is read this for somebody new to windows phone operating system is this. Try and forget anything that you learned how to do with a android and blackberry os. This is wp much different in all ways.

    windows phone 8 | windows phone how-to (united states)

    welcome to wp, wpcentral and 521 forum by the way ..
    10-07-2013 10:07 PM
  9. SlantNGo's Avatar
    FYI MetroTalk is probably the best Google Voice client for Windows Phone. I've been using it for a few months now.
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    10-08-2013 10:05 AM
  10. BBerryPowerUser's Avatar
    Thank you. I loaded it yesterday but could not get it to sing. I'll try it again today. Might have been my error. I've seen review that MetroTalk is by far the best. Worth a 2nd chance.

    Day 2 of WP8 Nokia 521 completed. Nice. I really like this phone. Do I miss my BlackBerry? Yes. I'd be lying to say that the elegance of BB with regard to emails and raw communication is not to be missed by me. However, WP8 is pretty slick. For about the fifth time, I had a leg up running WP8 Launcher on Android, and the fact that I'm used to live tiles on "FlipBoard". But the REAL DEAL of WP8 VS a mock launcher on Android is not comparing apples to apples. WP8 is obviously the gold standard here.

    OK, well bottom line, WP8 has a long way to go to catch up to Android in Customization, IF that is what they want or consumers want them to do. Perhaps they stay the line like iOS and keep everything their way or the highway. Android, as most of you know, can be customized 10 ways to Sunday. Tens of apps for email, texting, keyboards, you name it. My Android probably looks NOTHING like my neighbors. But there is something nice about Windows 8 being more steady and plain Vanilla than Android. iOS and, yes, BlackBerry have a pretty standard look and feel no matter whom you see using one. That's pretty cool.

    I had a funny glitch today. I was goofing around with settings. I accidentally hit the high contrast setting engage, and did not know it. Voila! My Theme (Emerald
    Green to match my case and company colors) was GONE! All that remained of the live tiles was Black and White with a minor splash of color here and there. Took me a long while to figure out what I had done, because, if you engage the high Contrast setting, your Theme colors disappear, replaced by black and white. I did not know this. Good learning experience.

    I need to read some reviews, manuals, and "Quick Tip" guides. I have a sneaking suspicion the phone has some hidden shortcuts and options that I have yet to discover. Otherwise, the phone handles seamlessly and is an excellent business phone. MS Office integration are outstanding. I like EVERYTHING so far. I do not miss my QWERTY keyboard of my BlackBerry, contrary to popular opinion. I was never a huge fan. I was more of a fan of the elegant OS communication prowess than I was of the keyboard. One thing I loved about Android? SwiftKey! What a GREAT keyboard option. I wish I could get it on WP8, however, the onboard keyboard is pretty darn good IMO.

    As I stated earlier, the phone performs fabulously on Simple Mobile, INCLUDING MMS send and receive, once you program the MMS and APN correctly. This takes only a few minutes if all goes smooth, and if not, no more than a few hours if you run into an unforseen glitch.

    Here are the programming instructions for using the 521 on Simple Mobile.

    Go to SETTINGS
    Open CELLULAR
    Make sure SIMPLE MOBILE is the network selection, if not it needs to be added. You don't want T-Mobile

    Go to SETTINGS
    Open ACCESS POINT
    Make sure SIMPLE MOBLE is active (initially, it should NOT be there - you have to add it - so ADD IT! )
    Press ADD
    Name it whatever you want, I named mine SIMPLE MOBILE
    Once added make sure it is the ACTIVE NETWORK

    Program over the air Internet and MMS for internet and picture message send and receive

    Go to SETTINGS - ACCESS POINT
    HOLD YOUR FINGER ON THE SIMPLE MOBILE YOU JUST ADDED
    A drop down menu will appear - Choose EDIT APN

    INTERNET SETTINGS
    Access point name - simple (all lower case!)
    username - leave blank
    password - leave blank
    proxy port - leave blank (try 80 if you have to put in a number but best to leave it blank)
    Proxy address - leave blank (put in one dot (.) if you have to but remove it later after saving
    Network type - should be IPv4 and should be in there already
    authentication type - none

    MMS APN
    mms apn - simple (all lower case)
    username - blank
    password - blank
    proxy address - blank
    proxy port - blank
    mmsc address - http://smpl.mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
    network type - ipv4
    authentication type - none

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    10-08-2013 04:11 PM
  11. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    The customization aspect of Android would be hard to give up for me...
    10-10-2013 03:54 PM
  12. BBerryPowerUser's Avatar
    I understand, Tre. If I was not a huge fan of BlackBerry (not much customization there - at least on Legacy Models), I'd probably feel the same way. I like my Android, I just happen to like WP8 better. There is actually a lot of "customization" you can do with regard to the homescreen. You can PIN anything you want, in any order, in a plethora of colors, and the live tiles are pretty cool. They are basically like WIDGETS in Android. Some are simply Icons (not live) but many are live Widgets.

    OK, well I've had a few really hard days of banging out business on the WP8 521.

    Very impressed. I think it does business very well. The People HUB, and the Business HUB are neat. I really like the ACTIVE live app view where you can scroll between the ACTIVE apps (or Screens) easily and efficiently by just holding the BACK arrow.

    The live tiles I have set up are perfect for me. I don't need to see my texts on the home screen, but want a peek at my emails. Done.
    I have live Bloomberg Tile full size giving me business updates real time, and I really like the way you can PIN contacts to the home screen. I have two or three every week I need to contact five or six times a day, and it's nice to see their updates quickly and efficiently.
    I also have a weather tile, and WORLDMATE front and center for travel.
    The Calendar live tile is very nice as well.

    And I like the LinkedIn Live tile very much. I use LinkedIn more than I do FaceBook or Twitter.
    Although I don't see much difference between Android's Twitter/Facebook to WP8, I personally see a HUGE difference with LinkedIn for WP8.
    I truly like the way the app functions and presents options and updates.

    Very impressed so far.
    Tre Lawrence likes this.
    10-10-2013 04:13 PM
  13. RumoredNow's Avatar
    The customization aspect of Android would be hard to give up for me...
    I'm not an OS loyalist... I'm more the try it all type.

    In my experience, Android's power seems to be games and media consumption. I'm still rocking 4.3 on my Nexus 7 and am eagerly awaiting the 4.4 that's due very soon.

    As a communicator and productivity unit, I don't think Android really has anything over Windows Phone except maybe a couple of social media apps.


    @ BBerryPowerUser:

    How about that Nokia Nav?

    Have you tried My Commute?
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    10-11-2013 11:56 AM
  14. BBerryPowerUser's Avatar
    Thanks, Rumored. Yes have used Nav and Commute. These are awesome Nokia features of the Nokia W8 phones IMO. The 521 can not, unfortunately, use Nokia's "City Lens" as it does not have a compass built it. :( I would have loved this App, but I will probably upgrade to a better phone next year and will have it then.

    OK, Week 1 complete with my new WP8 Nokia 521. The conclusion so far-

    What I miss from my BlackBerry

    - Initially, the tactile QWERTY keyboard. More on this below under what I love about the Nokia 521
    - BlackBerry Travel. This is a stellar app that ALWAYS captures my travel plans automatically and presents them to me when I need them. Tripit and Worldmate can't hold a candle to it as far as reliability of auto capture. It simply works 100 percent and is sorely missed.
    - ALL communication going to ONE inbox. You can merge email accounts on the Nokia but you cant port in Text or IM, at least I don't know how.
    - The flashing LED. That is an awesome feature
    - a Flash! I don't give a hoot about photos with the flash, but I use it as a flashlight a LOT! I miss it.
    - The bulky rugged feel of the 9780. This may just be because I have used it for a while, I have a Trident durable case on it, and it fits my hand perfectly.
    - At times, the track pad. I like touch screens, but tracpads are also nice.
    - NOBEX Contact Capture. This was superb! Any email with contact information was stripped and presented to me for import automatically into my contact list. I miss is terribly. I hope Microsoft pushes it to the WP8 phones soon, and not just their Outlook for Desktop/Laptop. If BlackBerry can have it, so should WP8.
    - Auto ON and OFF settings to turn the phone on and off at specific times. Convenient and saves battery life if you forget to shut the phone down at night.
    - Customization on how to handle calls and configuration of calls, like blocking my outgoing caller ID. This may be available on Nokia but I have not figured it out yet.

    What I love about the Nokia 521

    - Making phone calls manually. Have you ever tried to dial a number with big fingers on a legacy BlackBerry? The keys double as a phone pad. And they are tiny. I did not realize HOW TINY until I started to really use the Nokia. Dialing on a BlackBerry is hard to do for me. I'm a big guy. Those little keys are tough.
    -The touch screen. I thought I was going to miss the QWERTY Keyboard, and at first I did (see above), But after a week, I love the touch screen keyboards on the Nokia! My fingers are not exactly dainty. The keyboards presented to me via Nokia are big enough to make typing easy! Especially in LANDSCAPE format presentation.
    -HUBS! The PEOPLE, and OFFICE hubs are AWESOME!
    -Live Tiles. I only wish there were more animation on some. Animation is sometimes limited on what they present to the tile. And many need a LARGE tile to present live information. Anything less and you have an ICON rather than a LIVE TILE.
    - Pushing contacts to the home screen as a Live Tile! This is NEAT! Talk about ultimate shortcuts. In only a week, I am not sure if my contacts will register updates via the live tiles or not... we'll see! I pushed myself to the Live Tile, and it presented as my LinkedIn profile. Interesting.
    - The Lock Screen! I have mine set to present Accuweather, and of course my schedule for the day. Awesome!
    - Live tile "Schedule" on main screen! WOW! Fantastic. Actually the most glanced at tile.
    - Holding Back Arrow to present all OPEN APPS or Last Screens Visited. This is spectacular
    - Auto DIM feature. Depending on the light in the room, or outdoors, the screen adjusts automatically. Nice for bed time, or outdoors in bright sunlight...oh and speaking of that...
    - High Contrast Feature that puts the live tiles in vibrant black and white contrast for use outdoors or in very bright light situations. A lifesaver! Thanks Microsoft
    - Windows Office! This is front and center and integrated to the max. I love it. The Business hub is AWESOME.
    - All the great Nokia Apps like "HERE TRANSIT" "HERE MAPS" "HERE DRIVE" (here drive has the feature "My Commute" that the previous poster mentioned. Nice app!
    - Camera features like "Nokia Panorama" and "Nokia Smart Cam" where you can select the best pic from a group that were captured automatically for you... no more closed eyes on family portraits!
    - LinkedIn App is superb on WP8. I love the way it is presented and how it functions. So much easier than my BlackBerry
    - The touch screen in general. I think Nokia is on par with Apple with regard to accuracy and UI elegance. My Android always seemed to be a little off in this regard.
    - The Keyboard smartness. It reminds me of the paid app "SwiftKey" I paid for on my Android. It's really good and learns (at least it seems to) based on what you have done in the past. I truly like it better than QWERTY. Go figure. Well, everything changes.
    - SPEECH TO TEXT CONVERSION and COMMANDS. I loved this on Android and iOS. Dictate your texts, Emails, and it's pretty darn accurate on Nokia, just like it is on Android and iOS. BlackBerry Legacy has nothing but rudimentary voice commands. I love dictating emails and texts when it works, and it WORKS GREAT on WP8 Nokia. Also, the Voice Commands are on par with iOS in my opinion. A pleasant surprise!

    There are probably some I missed. This will do for the first week.

    So the bottom line, If you are a guy that just wants a phone for communication like email, IM, phone calls, and texts with some basic LinkedIn and Facebook and Twitter features, then a legacy BlackBerry is for you. You will probably never mistype because of the QWERTY keyboard, but you will have a solid and dependable BUSINESS MACHINE!
    If you want more, like a digital assistant that can help you plan your day from top to bottom and help you enjoy your off time? AND, allow you to do MS Office like it is meant to be on a computer, then the Nokia WP8 is for you!

    Now, I still have my BlackBerry working! Yes, my Simple Mobile Plan INCLUDES BLACKBERRY BIS at NO ADDITIONAL COST, and when I transferred the activation from the SIM in the BlackBerry to the new Micro SIM in the Nokia, the BlackBerry Plan stayed active, so the Berry STILL WORKS on WIFI. No phone calls or texts, but ALL OTHER FEATURES WORK. This is nice because I could compare the two phones side by side all week. I also have my Android Active. And I spent a lot of time with iOS late last year when I bought an Apple 4s. So I really should have an aptitude for comparison.

    There is a Microsoft store near my office, and I will probably stop in and take some classes to tweak my user experience. This is a nice perk! For $99, you can take a class a week for a year! Good bargain.

    I hope this thread is helping others understand the differences, and to my surprise, the ADVANTAGES of Windows 8 and the great value that is Nokia Lumia 521
    Last edited by BBerryPowerUser; 10-11-2013 at 07:49 PM.
    10-11-2013 04:44 PM
  15. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    I'm not an OS loyalist... I'm more the try it all type.

    In my experience, Android's power seems to be games and media consumption. I'm still rocking 4.3 on my Nexus 7 and am eagerly awaiting the 4.4 that's due very soon.

    As a communicator and productivity unit, I don't think Android really has anything over Windows Phone except maybe a couple of social media apps.


    @ BBerryPowerUser:

    How about that Nokia Nav?

    Have you tried My Commute?
    A big one for me is Google Now, but yes, WP8 is looking good indeed ecosystem-wise.

    And I consider myself mostly platform-agnostic as well. Love them all! :)
    10-11-2013 08:11 PM
  16. BBerryPowerUser's Avatar
    A big one for me is Google Now, but yes, WP8 is looking good indeed ecosystem-wise.

    And I consider myself mostly platform-agnostic as well. Love them all! :)
    Yep, I may also agree. I have a Droid. Had an iPhone 4s, and still have the Berry along with with WP8. If something else came along, I'd try that too.
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    10-11-2013 10:24 PM
  17. BBerryPowerUser's Avatar
    I have realized over the last week or so that an Upgrade to a more robust WP8 (Nokia) is a must for me.

    I love the 521, but a few things it can not do. First, the lack of flash bothers me. I used it more than I thought on my other phones, even as a flashlight.

    Second, some apps like "CityLens" and "Quora" do not operate. Citylens needs Compass. Quora needs higher screen resolution than my 521 can deliver.
    I'm hoping that when "Flipboard" comes out it will run on the 521, but you never know. I hope so, anyway.

    I am probably going to go with a 920 at some point in a few months. As I stated in another thread, I hope Nokia introduces a successor, so the 920 drops in price on the open market for an unlocked phone. I'll give the 521 to my Significant Other. Still think it's a stellar phone, especially for the price.
    10-30-2013 05:26 PM
  18. calfee20's Avatar
    10-31-2013 10:17 AM
  19. BBerryPowerUser's Avatar
    Appreciate the offer, but too soon. I have to see if Flipboard runs on the 521. If so, I'll sit still for a while. If not, may consider a jump up.



    Sent from my Nokia Lumia 521 using Tapatalk
    11-02-2013 08:02 PM
  20. Guytronic's Avatar
    Anxious to read more of your updates and experience with the 521 BBerryPowerUser
    I also came from a BB that I miss dearly then an Asus Infinity andread tablet that just died after 16 months of minor frustration.

    Wish I would have tripped on this forum and this thread earlier.
    Bought the 521 somewhat on a whim because the wife just got a Win8 notebook.
    Really loved the tiled start screen with Windows on her new HP and I started looking at W8 tabs initially.
    The tablet format whether it be 7 inch 9 or 10 never did feel right and was just not portable.
    The low cost WinPhone fortunately was the answer...absolutely no regrets.

    The $99.00 Lumia has been useful and an extremely satisfying to an un-knowledgable non-business user like me.
    Also planning to move up if better unlocked Nokia phones drop in price.
    11-04-2013 08:03 PM
  21. BBerryPowerUser's Avatar
    Guytronic et al:

    Well, as time goes by, I like the 521 more and more. Honestly, My BlackBerry has been shelved for over a week and I no longer miss it. I actually tried using it today, and was a little miffed that it did not have a "People" hub like my 521. Now, remember, I'm using a BBerry 9780 on OS6. I am (was) a fan of BIS. Both the Berry and the WindowsPhone are GSM and my Simple Mobile SIM works on both. Luckily, my Blackberry can use the MicroSim that the Lumia takes. You just have to align it well, or buy a 2 dollar adapter.
    The more time I spend with WP8, the less I miss my Berry. Honestly, I miss the 521 now when I'm using the Berry.

    Some new observations from me after a month of using the 521;

    The "People" hub is astounding if you have a lot of contacts or use the big three social media apps (LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter) you no longer have to open each app. All of these are dumped in to "People" for you. You can flip through the People hub to look up people, or see whats new.
    There is a WHATS NEW page where all the social media is dumped, a RECENT page where you can see how you interacted with your contacts like phone and text and social, and a TOGETHER page where you can place Rooms and groups for family and friends. Finally the ALL page for looking up contacts. Nice.
    I also like the "ME" page. This is ultra convenient. You can post an update to multiple sources, or set your chat status. Or, CHECK IN from that one page. Super convenient.

    Business Hub? Outstanding! Free Microsoft Office integration? Heck yes. RECENT page and PLACES pages make it easy to manage documents and Skydrive. NO EXTRA COST to get an app to edit or view your documents. It's built in to the OS. MS drew on their strength here, of course. Why not? Most of us use MS Office. Might as well have a full version on the phone too.

    One of the things I liked about Android over iPhone is Widgets. Apple simply does not allow anything "Live" on their home pages. Widgets are cool in my opinion. Well, Live Tiles are widgets. They update what matters. You get glances at email, you get great notifications on Twitter or LinkedIn, and the list goes on and on. And, some Windows phone apps are GORGEOUS compared to iPhone or Android. Not all, but some. Foursquare is really sweet.

    I found this article regarding how WindowsPhone crushes iPhone on a few fronts. Read it and decide for yourself. They also mention Android a bit. One of the thing that they say, is how "Fresh" the WP8 OS is compared to iPhone and the copycat Android. I agree. Link below. Enjoy.

    Windows Phone Better Than iPhone - Business Insider
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    11-06-2013 05:45 PM
  22. BBerryPowerUser's Avatar
    UPDATE:

    I spent the weekend with my BlackBerry. I'm a Race Director in the MultiSport industry. I produce races and during race weekends, I am terribly busy setting up and tearing down venues, as well as managing the race in general and dealing with the athletes.

    During hard core heavy email splurges, I still prefer my BlackBerry. NOTHING compares to pounding out emails on it and responding quickly to athletes and vendors that email me constantly during race weeks and weekends. With a QWERTY Keyboard and BIS pumping in emails real time, I'm the king when it comes to timely responses as I'm hustling around doing 1,000 other things.
    Mind you, I CAN do emails in bulk on my WindowsPhone, I'm just saying if you are getting 200 emails a day while you are really busy, and EMAILS are the core of what you are using your smartphone for on certain days, in my mind, you cannot beat a QWERTY BlackBerry. My opinion of course, in REAL WORLD USE. Berry has the edge here, but it's not a HUGE edge.

    HOWEVER, EVERYTHING ELSE I do on my BlackBerry can't hold a candle to my WindowsPhone. I do a lot to Twitter in my business. It is horrible trying to do tweets on a legacy BlackBerry compared to a WindowsPhone. Horrible. It's clunky and awkward. Same with any social app. Facebook, LinkedIn are a mess on BlackBerry legacy devices compared to WindowsPhone. Hard to see on a tiny screen, hard to scroll through and get to the exact item you want, hard to do anything with management. And I really miss not seeing my latest interactions with my contacts when I use BlackBerry. WindowsPhone really has me spoiled.

    There is no PEOPLE hub, no OFFICE hub, no ME hub. No fluid management of anything like on a WindowsPhone. The WP8 Nokia "Glides" as you use it, while a Berry seems very rough and edgy to me, on anything other than raw email handling. And actually making phone calls is truly easier on a WindowsPhone. I'm not sure how I every pushed those tiny QWERTY keys for so many years. I need reading glasses to try and use my BlackBerry for anything but emails these days. Not with my WP8.

    Also, I find my self dictating emails and texts more and more on my Nokia. I can't do this during heavy use email days like described above, but it's a handy feature.

    C'est vrai mon ami. All my opinions of course, but I'm comparing the devices in real work environments.

    At this point, I could shelve my BlackBerry permanently.
    Guytronic likes this.
    11-10-2013 03:29 PM
  23. Guytronic's Avatar
    Meant to reply a thanks for the Business insider link and the updates also.
    Found the linked article very interesting!
    Microsoft\Nokia targeted this phone and it's AT&T counterpart correctly.
    They got me hook, line and sinker.

    Have to say that WP8 is much more enjoyable for me, took to it as though I had reaffirmed with a long lost friend.
    Been learning\using the One Note app and finding it a good clearinghouse for keeping track since my memory is waning.

    The cost of this device pretty much makes any worries about device damage or loss negligible.
    2 Nokia's for less than 200 bucks is much cheaper than losing and trying to recover a newer iPhone or high dollar Nexus.
    BBerryPowerUser likes this.
    11-10-2013 04:48 PM
  24. BBerryPowerUser's Avatar
    Very much on-target, Guy.

    The OS on this 521 is quite elegant. It truly glides as if I had written the OS myself. It is quite simply "intuitive" to the point that I truly feel it knows what I want to do before I have even realized it myself! ๐Ÿ˜

    I have my new digital assistant for sure.

    Oh, and "One Note' is awesome. Great App.

    Keep us posted.



    Sent from my Nokia Lumia 521 using Tapatalk
    Guytronic likes this.
    11-10-2013 05:37 PM
  25. Guytronic's Avatar
    The OS on this 521 is quite elegant. It truly glides as if I had written the OS myself. ๐Ÿ˜
    In absolute agreement!
    I chuckled and found the quoted statement probably the best description of any mobileOS I've ever read.
    Good advertising tag for the Win8phone!

    "The only thing better would be an OS created just for you and only you..."

    Bought another phone because one is not enough.
    BBerryPowerUser likes this.
    11-17-2013 09:03 PM
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