01-24-2014 03:53 AM
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  1. GAURAV0224's Avatar
    Hi,
    i want to about that is nokia Lumia 720 support Lumia black updates ?
    01-03-2014 05:45 AM
  2. Cryio's Avatar
    Your grammar man !

    And yes, the L720 will recieve the Black update sometime in February or at a later time..
    01-03-2014 05:55 AM
  3. mukulagarwal's Avatar
    But why is it like this that all 520 ram phones are reciving update early except lumia720?
    01-03-2014 12:08 PM
  4. Gaurav Paul's Avatar
    I don't really understand your question. But I'm assuming that you are trying to ask why other 512 MB devices are receiving updates earlier than the Lumia 720.

    Well, FYI Black is currently only available to the Lumia 1520 and 1320 which comes pre-installed out of the box.
    Secondly Black isn't going to be released until end of January.
    Thirdly, the updates will arrive more or less at the same time for all 512 MB RAM devices.
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    01-03-2014 12:20 PM
  5. kmji1957's Avatar
    And who has said, that L520 gets Black before L720?

    Sent from my Lumia 820 using Tapatalk
    01-03-2014 12:21 PM
  6. ShreyansShah's Avatar
    everyone, listen up. u can find this thing in the news long back.
    MS declared that all the current devices with wp8, shall get wp8.1.

    thus rest assured that all the devices shall be getting all the updates till wp 8.1
    01-04-2014 06:13 AM
  7. nokia6300's Avatar
    Gaurav
    01-04-2014 06:44 PM
  8. nokia6300's Avatar
    everyone, listen up. u can find this thing in the news long back.
    MS declared that all the current devices with wp8, shall get wp8.1.

    thus rest assured that all the devices shall be getting all the updates till wp 8.1
    Gaurav is asking about the Black update for the 720. correct me if i'm wrong but isn't Lumia Black update exclusive for Lumia devices only, and GDR3 is for ALL windows phone devices?
    And remember the 520, 620 and 720 never got double tap to wake from the Amber update so maybe some lumias will not get some features from the Black update.
    01-04-2014 06:47 PM
  9. Zulfigar's Avatar
    The reason for that is hardware limitations, however, they did get Amber; same story here, when GDR3 is released, Black will be packaged in as well. So wait for GDR3, everybody is getting it, and before this starts up again, everybody is getting 8.1 (and whatever Nokia decides to package with that update) as well.

    Every phone is good on updates for 18 months after initial release, and WP8 isn't 18 months old yet. :)
    01-04-2014 06:58 PM
  10. nokia6300's Avatar
    The reason for that is hardware limitations,
    this is a rumour. the nokia asha 501 has double tap to wake. have you checked out the specs on that phone? if the asha 501 has it then i'm sure it's not a hardware limitation. look the 720 has nokia drive and the 620 has nokia drive+. nokia did this on purpose for whatever reason. the 720 is higher up than the 620.
    01-04-2014 07:35 PM
  11. Gaurav Paul's Avatar
    Well to answer that, I'd like to re-direct your attention to all the features coming with the Black update. Regardless to say all WP devices will receive GDR3 update.

    - Glance Screen Notifs
    - Glance Screen Night Mode Colours
    - Glance Screen Pedometer, Custom text and Cal info
    - RAW Camera support
    - New Camera Algorithms
    - Bluetooth 4.0 LE

    So when it comes to the Lumia 720, it will receive all the updates coming with Black except for RAW camera support(Don't ask me why) and Bluetooth 4.0 LE (Because Lumia 720 got it with Amber, Before the high end Lumias).

    As for Lumia 520 goes, it doesn't support Glance screen, so one doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that the Lumia 520 wont support glance screen related updates (Or unless Nokia somehow enables it on the Lumia 520).

    As for DTTW(Double Tap To Wake), Nokia decided not to ship the lower end Lumia because of battery issues. And please don't throw the gauntlet at me that the much lower spec'd Asha 501 has DTTW.

    But if you do, please note that the Asha is already a lower spec'd phone(and smaller screen). So enabling the DTTW on it didn't affect battery as much as it did on the lower end Lumias.

    And again lets remind ourselves a very crucial thing, The Lumia 720 is a mid-range device. A best of both worlds. So expecting it to support all the fancy stuff of the flag-ship device will defeat its purpose. I'm sorry if it upsets anyone, but that is the case when it comes to phones.
    01-05-2014 12:12 AM
  12. nokia6300's Avatar
    Well to answer that, I'd like to re-direct your attention to all the features coming with the Black update. Regardless to say all WP devices will receive GDR3 update.

    - Glance Screen Notifs
    - Glance Screen Night Mode Colours
    - Glance Screen Pedometer, Custom text and Cal info
    - RAW Camera support
    - New Camera Algorithms
    - Bluetooth 4.0 LE

    So when it comes to the Lumia 720, it will receive all the updates coming with Black except for RAW camera support(Don't ask me why) and Bluetooth 4.0 LE (Because Lumia 720 got it with Amber, Before the high end Lumias).

    As for Lumia 520 goes, it doesn't support Glance screen, so one doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that the Lumia 520 wont support glance screen related updates (Or unless Nokia somehow enables it on the Lumia 520).

    As for DTTW(Double Tap To Wake), Nokia decided not to ship the lower end Lumia because of battery issues. And please don't throw the gauntlet at me that the much lower spec'd Asha 501 has DTTW.

    But if you do, please note that the Asha is already a lower spec'd phone(and smaller screen). So enabling the DTTW on it didn't affect battery as much as it did on the lower end Lumias.

    And again lets remind ourselves a very crucial thing, The Lumia 720 is a mid-range device. A best of both worlds. So expecting it to support all the fancy stuff of the flag-ship device will defeat its purpose. I'm sorry if it upsets anyone, but that is the case when it comes to phones.
    what battery issues are you talking about?? can you be more specific? it's got a friggin 2000ma battery, same as the 920, and the 520 and 620 does not but you know that already. zulfigar was saying it's a hardware limitation and i say nokia disabled that feature.
    01-05-2014 12:41 AM
  13. Gaurav Paul's Avatar
    Well yes, it does have a 2000mAh battery. But may I please re-direct your attention towards how the battery back-up reduced considerably for many Lumia 720 or Lumia 920 users after Amber update. There are many post in this forum about reduced battery backup post Amber. So when I said it was due to battery issues and when others comment its hardware limitations, its more like reduced battery backup.

    Now I hope you understand why Nokia pulled out DTTW from Lumia 720 in the last moment because the Lumia 720 already had reduced battery back-up(thanks to glance for ex) and if they did enable DTTW in the Lumia 720, Nokia would end up with even more people whining for lower battery life. They rolled DTTW for the 920 because it was then the flagship device and it would have been stupid not to do so.

    Anyways I would have liked DTTW, but I'm very comfortable without it because my phone isn't that huge that I won't be able to reach the unlock buttons. IMO DTTW is a must feature in phablets I think.
    01-05-2014 03:20 AM
  14. Vardhan Shrivastava's Avatar
    My battery backup considerably increased from 10 11 hrs to 13 14 hours ...on an average after amber...on 920
    01-05-2014 03:43 AM
  15. Gaurav Paul's Avatar
    Good for you. Although I must say 10-11 Hrs of backup was kind of low. My battery backup reduced from over 2 days to just over a day.
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    01-05-2014 07:20 AM
  16. gowhar's Avatar
    my lumia 720 also gives low battery back up after Amber update. is there any solution for this big problem.
    01-16-2014 12:48 AM
  17. Gaurav Paul's Avatar
    Try this. It should help you.
    01-16-2014 04:48 AM
  18. gowhar's Avatar
    Thanks. One more problem is that my phone is showing double audios & images.
    i managed the audio but images are still creating problem.
    01-18-2014 04:08 AM
  19. nokia6300's Avatar
    There are many post in this forum about reduced battery backup post Amber. So when I said it was due to battery issues and when others comment its hardware limitations, its more like reduced battery backup.

    Now I hope you understand why Nokia pulled out DTTW from Lumia 720 in the last moment because the Lumia 720 already had reduced battery back-up(thanks to glance for ex) and if they did enable DTTW in the Lumia 720, Nokia would end up with even more people whining for lower battery life. They rolled DTTW for the 920 because it was then the flagship device and it would have been stupid not to do so.
    so now do you still believe it's a "battery issue"? just so you know i did a little experiment. before bedtime i turned on glance peek with a sim card inside the phone on standby everything else was set to off, yes everything. and guess what? when i woke up the next morning the battery had dropped 0.2% per hour and to me that is negligible. so i doubt nokia didn't include double tap to wake in it's Amber release because of battery issues.

    to further my point, let's say DTTW is coming to 620 and 720 that would totally prove you wrong because the 620 has even a smaller battery than the 720.

    battery consumption for most people complaining was probably due to some background task running.
    01-18-2014 12:30 PM
  20. Gaurav Paul's Avatar
    First Glance and DTTW are two different things. Secondly, with glance on "peek" mode, the glance screen is shown for 15 seconds after which it turns off the screen and the proximity sensor keeps doing its job.

    As for DTTW, there's no official news about it yet, but I've posted some videos I found on YouTube with 625 and 720 supporting DTTW. Now once we officially get Black and if Nokia enables DTTW on the 720, I'd suggest you to notice in Touch settings where we can enable DTTW. There is a small line saying "This reduces battery life". I know so because I have it enabled on my Lumia 920.

    Now I'm sure Nokia wouldn't just simply say that or for ex in many battery saving tips they always tip: "Turn of DTTW", if there isn't any truth to that. Fact of the matter is there is a drop in battery life; but not a HUGE as you'd imagine when I had posted that earlier, which probably was one of the reasons why it was held back.
    01-18-2014 01:18 PM
  21. nokia6300's Avatar

    Now I hope you understand why Nokia pulled out DTTW from Lumia 720 in the last moment because the Lumia 720 already had reduced battery back-up(thanks to glance for ex) and if they did enable DTTW in the Lumia 720, Nokia would end up with even more people whining for lower battery life.
    is the sky blue on a sunny day? thanks for pointing out the obvious. yes i know DTTW iS not the same as glance. yes i know glance consumes a bit more power but not as much as you think. i quoted you again because i think you have forgotten what you have written.
    01-18-2014 01:33 PM
  22. nokia6300's Avatar
    First Glance and DTTW are two different things. Secondly, with glance on "peek" mode, the glance screen is shown for 15 seconds after which it turns off the screen and the proximity sensor keeps doing its job.

    As for DTTW, there's no official news about it yet, but I've posted some videos I found on YouTube with 625 and 720 supporting DTTW. Now once we officially get Black and if Nokia enables DTTW on the 720, I'd suggest you to notice in Touch settings where we can enable DTTW. There is a small line saying "This reduces battery life". I know so because I have it enabled on my Lumia 920.

    Now I'm sure Nokia wouldn't just simply say that or for ex in many battery saving tips they always tip: "Turn of DTTW", if there isn't any truth to that. Fact of the matter is there is a drop in battery life; but not a HUGE as you'd imagine when I had posted that earlier, which probably was one of the reasons why it was held back.
    i know what DTTW is i've had it on my N9 long before you have your 920.
    and i don't know why you are just regurgitating what i just said. and you are contradicting yourself. i'm gonna stop quoting you. go back and read your posts please.
    01-18-2014 01:35 PM
  23. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    L525 has double tap to wake,so I assume 520,620,625,720 will get dttw. L625 in Vietnam and AT&T 520 users in US have dttw since black update.
    01-18-2014 01:41 PM
  24. Gaurav Paul's Avatar
    i know what DTTW is i've had it on my N9 long before you have your 920.
    and i don't know why you are just regurgitating what i just said. and you are contradicting yourself. i'm gonna stop quoting you. go back and read your posts please.
    My friend I'd like to clarify what you clearly misunderstood. When Amber was released, the battery backup of the Lumia 720 was considerably reduced with the new features. I gave glance as an example. and FYI in its conception, glance had only two options if I remember correctly Interval and Always on. Later it was optimised and hence we now have Peek. As one would notice almost all nokia settings app have receive atleast one update since Amber. So one can guess that Nokia has been fiddling with bug fixes and optimisations. I guess now they've reached to a point where they can enable DTTW with minimal reduction to battery life. If Nokia would have rolled out DTTW with Amber, I'm sure we would have had more complains about reduced battery life; considering that a good battery life was a selling point, Nokia took a safe bet of not rolling out that feature. Anyways what are we cribbing about? Sooner or later if you get an update what's wrong with that?
    01-18-2014 11:10 PM
  25. nokia6300's Avatar
    My friend I'd like to clarify what you clearly misunderstood. When Amber was released, the battery backup of the Lumia 720 was considerably reduced with the new features. I gave glance as an example. and FYI in its conception, glance had only two options if I remember correctly Interval and Always on. Later it was optimised and hence we now have Peek. As one would notice almost all nokia settings app have receive atleast one update since Amber. So one can guess that Nokia has been fiddling with bug fixes and optimisations. I guess now they've reached to a point where they can enable DTTW with minimal reduction to battery life. If Nokia would have rolled out DTTW with Amber, I'm sure we would have had more complains about reduced battery life; considering that a good battery life was a selling point, Nokia took a safe bet of not rolling out that feature. Anyways what are we cribbing about? Sooner or later if you get an update what's wrong with that?
    ok fair enough no more cribbing i can't wait for the update especially DTTW.
    01-18-2014 11:32 PM
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