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  1. jazen's Avatar
    First things first, my daily driver is a Lumia 1020 which has been in use since August 2014. I have been thinking about upgrading to a newer phone that is capable of W10 but haven't pulled the trigger yet because of the performance/size compromise.

    I tend to like smaller phones and anything <5" is ideal due to my smallish hands. I am currently using a Lumia 640 to get a feel for W10 but this is a phone I am borrowing. While performance is decent, and the size is usable, I don't feel comfortable with it.

    Enter the 735; spec wise, it has the same CPU and memory as a 640, but with a 4.7" screen and a much better aperture camera (f/1.9 vs f/2.2) and an OLED screen versus the 640's LCD. The front facing camera is not of importance to me but still nice to have for number comparisons. My issue is I am using T-Mobile and in order to use LTE, I need the RM-1039 version which is now rarer than hen's teeth. I know the Verizon version is network compatible with T-Mobile but only on EDGE data (unless there's a way to flash a different ROM on it to enable LTE on band 12?).

    With this information in mind, is it worth the effort to go for a RM-1039 Lumia 735? I have also thought about the 830, but between the LCD screen and the f/2.4 camera lens, I would still rather not. The Lumia 550 is also a no go since it seems even more entry level.
    09-26-2016 05:06 PM
  2. Ntei's Avatar
    The 830 also has ois
    09-26-2016 05:13 PM
  3. nwildcat's Avatar
    I'm choosing between a 735 and Icon on Verizon. If the 830 was an option I would go for that immediately because it has Glance and has a Pureview camera with Zeiss optics and has OIS.
    09-26-2016 05:37 PM
  4. jazen's Avatar
    I'm choosing between a 735 and Icon on Verizon. If the 830 was an option I would go for that immediately because it has Glance and has a Pureview camera with Zeiss optics and has OIS.
    Does the 735 not have glance? I figured it would have better glance support due to the OLED screen. That is another consideration as well since the Glance feature on the 640 isn't as full featured as the 1020, but this can also be changes made in W10 compared to WP8.1.
    09-26-2016 06:03 PM
  5. xandros9's Avatar
    Does the 735 not have glance? I figured it would have better glance support due to the OLED screen. That is another consideration as well since the Glance feature on the 640 isn't as full featured as the 1020, but this can also be changes made in W10 compared to WP8.1.
    The 730/735 and 930/Icon do not have Glance. Period. (unfortunately)
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    09-26-2016 06:13 PM
  6. jazen's Avatar
    The 730/735 and 930/Icon do not have Glance. Period. (unfortunately)
    Huh... the more you know... does it have a notification LED in its stead?
    09-26-2016 06:32 PM
  7. etphoto's Avatar
    I have a 735 (coming from an M8) and I love the size (I too like the smaller phones). It is under powered compared to the M8 but still gets the job done. I've never been a glance user and if it had the LED notification I'd probably turn it off (as I almost always have something in my Action Center awaiting attention). I'm on Verizon though.

    I am VERY happy with the 735.

    Twitter: @PhotographyET
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    09-26-2016 07:03 PM
  8. bunky1971's Avatar
    Hey jazen, I replied to your PM, let me know your thoughts. I like someone who does their homework. [=
    09-26-2016 09:53 PM
  9. xandros9's Avatar
    Huh... the more you know... does it have a notification LED in its stead?
    There were rumors and such flying of it having such hardware, but it ultimately doesn't matter since Windows 10 Mobile doesn't support it for notifications. (or much of anything, really)
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    09-26-2016 10:35 PM
  10. jazen's Avatar
    I have a 735 (coming from an M8) and I love the size (I too like the smaller phones). It is under powered compared to the M8 but still gets the job done. I've never been a glance user and if it had the LED notification I'd probably turn it off (as I almost always have something in my Action Center awaiting attention). I'm on Verizon though.

    I am VERY happy with the 735.

    Twitter: @PhotographyET
    Performance wise, I am coming from a 1020, and it has met my needs (not a heavy app user with my most frequently used being: RSS reader, FB messenger, weather, maps and cycling GPS app), and the Lumia 640 has been snappy enough with its quad cores.

    Hey jazen, I replied to your PM, let me know your thoughts. I like someone who does their homework. [=
    Thanks! I do as much research as I can since its enjoyable.

    There were rumors and such flying of it having such hardware, but it ultimately doesn't matter since Windows 10 Mobile doesn't support it for notifications. (or much of anything, really)
    Gotcha. Does the Lumia 640's glance feature have less detail than say a Lumia 950? Or is W10m's Glance featureset different from WP8.1, and will show the same information regardless of phone?
    09-27-2016 01:25 PM
  11. xandros9's Avatar
    Performance wise, I am coming from a 1020, and it has met my needs (not a heavy app user with my most frequently used being: RSS reader, FB messenger, weather, maps and cycling GPS app), and the Lumia 640 has been snappy enough with its quad cores.



    Thanks! I do as much research as I can since its enjoyable.



    Gotcha. Does the Lumia 640's glance feature have less detail than say a Lumia 950? Or is W10m's Glance featureset different from WP8.1, and will show the same information regardless of phone?
    The Lumia 640 and 640 XL have only the clock, notification icons, and date features of glance. (so most people won't miss the missing features)

    They can't do stuff like weather on glance and wallpapers but to be honest, Microsoft removed basically all those features in 10 anyway. At least in the Anniversary Update.
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    09-27-2016 03:42 PM
  12. jazen's Avatar
    Ah, the weather was what I was missing most from Glance on the Lumia 1020. With Glance being less useful, I guess its not that big of a dealbreaker between the 830 and the 735.
    09-27-2016 03:56 PM
  13. jazen's Avatar
    Quick update, I had picked up a RM-1041 to test with on T-Mobile, that didn't work out very well as the phone kept cycling between 2G/LTE non-stop and I couldn't get MMS working. Found a RM-1039 for cheap, so I picked that up. I must say in the 12 hours I have used it, I am enjoying it. The size is a definite win, and even though it has the same CPU/memory specs as a 640, it feels snappier; not sure how to explain that. Glad I made the switch. Now to get rid of the 950 xl that I got from Black Friday BOGO...
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    12-11-2016 11:25 AM
  14. Walter Wagenleithner's Avatar
    Quick update, I had picked up a RM-1041 to test with on T-Mobile, that didn't work out very well as the phone kept cycling between 2G/LTE non-stop and I couldn't get MMS working. Found a RM-1039 for cheap, so I picked that up. I must say in the 12 hours I have used it, I am enjoying it. The size is a definite win, and even though it has the same CPU/memory specs as a 640, it feels snappier; not sure how to explain that. Glad I made the switch. Now to get rid of the 950 xl that I got from Black Friday BOGO...
    I also went back to my old 730 from the 950... The extra stuff like iris scanner and hey cortana did not work very well and the screen also had the issues of staying black or being dark. The 730 works rock solid under Windows 10 mobile.
    12-11-2016 02:36 PM
  15. libra89's Avatar
    Quick update, I had picked up a RM-1041 to test with on T-Mobile, that didn't work out very well as the phone kept cycling between 2G/LTE non-stop and I couldn't get MMS working. Found a RM-1039 for cheap, so I picked that up. I must say in the 12 hours I have used it, I am enjoying it. The size is a definite win, and even though it has the same CPU/memory specs as a 640, it feels snappier; not sure how to explain that. Glad I made the switch. Now to get rid of the 950 xl that I got from Black Friday BOGO...
    Nice! Did you upgrade it to Windows 10 Mobile? How do you like the camera? I had one and I am considering it again. Also on T-Mobile too.
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    12-14-2016 10:42 AM
  16. jazen's Avatar
    Nice! Did you upgrade it to Windows 10 Mobile? How do you like the camera? I had one and I am considering it again. Also on T-Mobile too.
    I did upgrade to Windows 10m and to my surprise it actually works so much better than on the 640, to the point where I don't mind using it daily. The camera is naturally a step down from owning the 1020, but I haven't really needed to use it aside from documenting changes made at work, I have tried it in dark situations just to see how it works, and with a steady hand, I would say its not great, but not useless either.

    I will be putting the 640 up for grabs soon.
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    12-14-2016 01:59 PM
  17. libra89's Avatar
    I did upgrade to Windows 10m and to my surprise it actually works so much better than on the 640, to the point where I don't mind using it daily. The camera is naturally a step down from owning the 1020, but I haven't really needed to use it aside from documenting changes made at work, I have tried it in dark situations just to see how it works, and with a steady hand, I would say its not great, but not useless either.

    I will be putting the 640 up for grabs soon.
    Thanks, your response has helped me so much! Also glad that you mentioned that it works better than the 640 because I have one of those too and I haven't been pleased with it's performance at all with Windows 10 Mobile. Going to pull the trigger!
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    12-14-2016 02:07 PM
  18. jazen's Avatar
    So I have used the 735 for a week now, and the only frustration I have had with it that is actually due to the phone and not the software (I am glaring at you FB Messenger...) is the double tap to wake feature. Aside from that, I really do love this phone, the size is that perfect sweet spot and the performance is sufficient.

    My theory as to why DTTW doesn't work very well is due to false positives. I am guessing when the phone senses movement, it doesn't respond to DTTW so that your phone doesn't wake up in your pocket. I don't have any issues with waking it when the phone is sitting on a flat stable surface. I have had my L1020 get really warm because it would wake up in my pocket then activate Cortana only to sit around and wait for me to say something.

    Not sure how DTTW differs on phones with Glance, but I do have to say the L640 is very responsive and I have had some false negatives on the L1020 (where I tap, but it doesn't wake). What are others opinion on this?
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    12-18-2016 01:44 AM
  19. wgrs's Avatar
    DTTW works here about 80%. Not perfect, and the 640 is way better in this aspect. Also, GPS of the 640 is much better.

    Other than that, 730 is still performing even with the bugs of W10M.
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    12-19-2016 01:34 AM
  20. garisa's Avatar
    Hey, guys, one question. Does Lumia 730 have glance screen on Windows 10 mobile? I know that it doesn't have it on Windows Phone 8.1, and I don't hope for much, but it would be great if it had glance screen on Windows 10 mobile. :)
    12-23-2016 09:26 AM
  21. xandros9's Avatar
    Hey, guys, one question. Does Lumia 730 have glance screen on Windows 10 mobile? I know that it doesn't have it on Windows Phone 8.1, and I don't hope for much, but it would be great if it had glance screen on Windows 10 mobile. :)
    No change unfortunately.
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    12-23-2016 09:36 AM
  22. garisa's Avatar
    Thanks for your reply. :)

    I may get it these days from a friend of mine, that's why I asked. :) So it's going to be a trade for me - changing glance screen for much better camera than the one I have with Lumia 532.
    12-23-2016 09:57 AM
  23. evillama's Avatar
    Hi all, thinking about getting this phone for my daughter as a replacement for her 820 coz its the same size...but two questions...

    Confirm it works on ATT with LTE if you have RM-1039?
    Confirm it is still supportable by MS and can be upgraded to the Anniversary Update (without needing to be an Insider?)

    All this because her 820 can't be upgraded to AU so her new Garmin Vivosmart HR band won't get notifications...

    Need <5" phone!
    12-31-2016 01:42 AM
  24. libra89's Avatar
    Hi all, thinking about getting this phone for my daughter as a replacement for her 820 coz its the same size...but two questions...

    Confirm it works on ATT with LTE if you have RM-1039?
    Confirm it is still supportable by MS and can be upgraded to the Anniversary Update (without needing to be an Insider?)

    All this because her 820 can't be upgraded to AU so her new Garmin Vivosmart HR band won't get notifications...

    Need <5" phone!
    It should work just fine on ATT. Yes it is officially supported by MS so all you would need to upgrade is the Upgrade Advisor app.

    What is important to her? The Lumia 550 is also around that size, but the camera isn't as nice.
    12-31-2016 02:03 AM
  25. evillama's Avatar
    She even won't give up her old 822 when we switched away from Verizon. Still uses it for games and pictures coz the camera is better than the 820. Both are sub-5" and have Qi charging which is also important to her coz our cars have Qi cradles in them.

    I just put a 735 in my cart at B&H. Need to wait until Saturday evening to process. Will discuss with her tomorrow if she wants to make the switch.
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    12-31-2016 02:11 AM
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