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  1. Rallicat's Avatar
    Specs for the sake of it is probably a concept to try and steer clear of - leave that for the Android crowd to constantly crow about the latest, greatest .. but poorly implemented... features!

    Nevertheless, the Lumia 710 and 800 are just what Nokia were able to push out in 8 months, and lets not forget that many other WP7 vendors aren't really pushing it as their primary platform, preferring instead to flood the marketplace with Android handsets. Nokia however, are pushing WP7 as their main platform, so to those looking for better specs I'd say - just give it more time. Nokia will surely have plans to release their own flood of WP7 handsets.

    We already know that Nokia are looking to release plenty of handsets at various price points, so we can probably expect to see something for everyone, ranging from entry-level handsets for those on a budget, right up to top-end handsets with big screens and high performance components.

    As for the Lumia 800 .. well, yeah, some might see the lack of FFC, NFC, or more storage as dissapointment, but remember with WP7 you can play to it's strengths in other ways. For example, my current iPhone (which I'm planning to switch away from to get the 800) has about 6GB of photos on it at present. Now that would soak up quite a bit of the 800's 16GB memory - but, I don't need to! Thanks to SkyDrive I can just dump all my photos into 'the cloud' and they'll be there for me on my 800 when I get it, all integrated into the UI's main photo experience :)

    So, yeah - better specs will be coming, but I'm not going to let that stop me jumping on board now. WP7's excellent features makes a spec-war less relevant.

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    11-01-2011 11:54 AM
  2. SB_Pete's Avatar
    ...12. Ability to actually close apps. I don't give a hoot how efficient the save state thing is. I don't want to hold down back key to bring up apps then scroll through a bunch of apps I'm not using that should just be closed.

    13. Lastly, FOLDERS AND REAL MULTI-TASKING! Are you kidding me MS? Didn't you people more or less invent folders based GUI? WTF?...
    I agree everything except 12 and 13. Ok. With 13 you need 12, but 12?

    Here is the deal: Everytime you exit an app in WP7, it's indeed closed. Only the background agent associated with that app is running, if any. That's why you don't need to close app manually. The pseudo-multitasking view is more like the last-opened apps view on iPhone.

    So again, 12 and 13 are actually combined.
    Well, the desire for folders is separate from what you are talking about. Folder tiles and folders in the app list or the ability to change the names (or nickname) the apps in the app list would make me much happier with the GUI.

    As for the closing. I understand the whole save state deal. Here's the prob, only 6 items show up when I hold down back to get that pseudo multi-tasking view, so if I'm going back and forth between say maps, music, browser, a wikipedia client app, and a couple of news apps or reading apps (kindle, freda, whatever), then I take a phone call or send a text and it pushes one of them out of save state and I have to re-open it from scratch. Also, if I want to do something quick, it then clutters up my "multi-tasking" view with stuff I no longer want to use like a calculator, unit converter, news app that I just wanted to check real quick and close, email clients that I wanted to check and am done with.

    Basically, the simple ability to "close" the app in the "multitasking" ahead of it becoming the 6th last app and getting bumped out would allow me to use the feature more like real multi-tasking, even if it is not.

    How is it that Symbian series 40 had multitasking like 5 years ago, and WP7 and iOS are still giving us this bs save state thing...
    11-05-2011 07:42 AM
  3. desmonium's Avatar
    Well, the desire for folders is separate from what you are talking about. Folder tiles and folders in the app list or the ability to change the names (or nickname) the apps in the app list would make me much happier with the GUI.

    As for the closing. I understand the whole save state deal. Here's the prob, only 6 items show up when I hold down back to get that pseudo multi-tasking view, so if I'm going back and forth between say maps, music, browser, a wikipedia client app, and a couple of news apps or reading apps (kindle, freda, whatever), then I take a phone call or send a text and it pushes one of them out of save state and I have to re-open it from scratch. Also, if I want to do something quick, it then clutters up my "multi-tasking" view with stuff I no longer want to use like a calculator, unit converter, news app that I just wanted to check real quick and close, email clients that I wanted to check and am done with.

    Basically, the simple ability to "close" the app in the "multitasking" ahead of it becoming the 6th last app and getting bumped out would allow me to use the feature more like real multi-tasking, even if it is not.

    How is it that Symbian series 40 had multitasking like 5 years ago, and WP7 and iOS are still giving us this bs save state thing...

    That part I agree, but I think they relay the responsibility of quick-resume on the developers to take advantage of Mango and make their apps quick-resume.

    Which one is more efficient I am not sure, but I am so used to BB's real multitasking and would like to see the real multitasking on WP7(8) as well. =)
    11-05-2011 09:21 AM
  4. tissotti's Avatar
    As opposed to what? Personally, 3.5" is my ideal. I don't really like holding half a net-book against my face.
    What i meant to say was that i'm surprised so many in this community is wanting larger than 4" screens.
    For me the 3.9" on N9 is absolutely perfect as partly because of the screen ratio also the width and round edges make it easy to use one handed. 800 will feature a bit smaller screen indeed, but at least the size of the device is identical.
    11-05-2011 11:31 AM
  5. jalb's Avatar
    I'm afraid it'll be just that for awhile, a dream. That resolution and support for dual core chips will be available in the chassis 3 specs found in Apollo, which isn't due out until the end of 2012.

    That makes me not want to get a new phone until end of 2012.
    11-05-2011 11:56 AM
  6. palandri's Avatar
    That makes me not want to get a new phone until end of 2012.
    Then you'll want to wait for the quad cores. :D
    11-05-2011 12:02 PM
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