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  1. pankaj981's Avatar
    Sadly again, I also tried this option; when I click on "more info" on the reason why I can't download it, one of the reason is "...the app is exclusive to a different mobile provider..."
    Even if I'm using my 810 on the Videotron network, inside the phone it's still written "T-Mobile" as the official operator.

    Screwed big time you said ? Yep...
    The network setup app is currently not available for WP8. What you can try if you haven't yet is keeping your carrier SIM inserted, reset the phone and let it go through the initial setup. I am not sure whether it will let you edit the phone APN settings after that. After I reset my Lumia 900 tied to AT&T and inserted my T-Mobile SIM, the network setup app popped up as if it was already installed but hidden. Try it if you can afford to reset it...

    I am actually in the same boat as you are since I have an international trip coming in the next 2 months...if I can't get this piece unlocked then I will have to sell it off and will get an unlocked WP8, mostly the 8X coz that's the only one which will work with the 1700MHz freq
    12-09-2012 10:46 AM
  2. pankaj981's Avatar
    With the tool NaviFirm+, you can download the OS image for the 810. I edited the image and this is what I found :

    <Component ComponentName="Cellular Settings UX">
    <SettingsGroup>
    <Setting Name="HighestSpeed3G" Value="4G"/>
    <Setting Name="HideHighestSpeed" Value="1"/>
    <Setting Name="HighestSpeed4G" Value="LTE"/>
    <Setting Name="HideHighestSpeed4G" Value="1"/>
    <Setting Name="HideAPN" Value="1"/>
    <Setting Name="HideMMSAPN" Value="1"/>
    </SettingsGroup>
    </Component>


    Also, later in the image, you can find settings that look like Registry entries

    <SettingMapping RegName="HideAPN" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideAPN"/>
    <SettingMapping RegName="HideCDMAModeSelection" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideCDMAModeSelection"/>
    <SettingMapping RegName="HideCDMASelection" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideCDMASelection"/>
    <SettingMapping RegName="HideDataMMS" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideDataMMS"/>
    <SettingMapping RegName="HideDataRoamMMS" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideDataRoamMMS"/>
    <SettingMapping RegName="HideGSMNetworks" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideGSMNetworks"/>
    <SettingMapping RegName="HideHighestSpeed" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideHighestSpeed"/>
    <SettingMapping RegName="HideHighestSpeed2G" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideHighestSpeed2G"/>
    <SettingMapping RegName="HideHighestSpeed4G" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideHighestSpeed4G"/>
    <SettingMapping RegName="HideMMSAPN" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideMMSAPN"/>


    Maybe with a "rogue" App, we can unset those values "on the fly".

    I am not sure if a .reg file can be used to change these values since I know that Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 share the same folder structure. Just run the .reg file and the phone settings change.

    Can anyone try this out? Or atleast create a .reg file?
    12-09-2012 10:52 AM
  3. docteurvez's Avatar
    The network setup app is currently not available for WP8. What you can try if you haven't yet is keeping your carrier SIM inserted, reset the phone and let it go through the initial setup. I am not sure whether it will let you edit the phone APN settings after that. After I reset my Lumia 900 tied to AT&T and inserted my T-Mobile SIM, the network setup app popped up as if it was already installed but hidden. Try it if you can afford to reset it...

    I am actually in the same boat as you are since I have an international trip coming in the next 2 months...if I can't get this piece unlocked then I will have to sell it off and will get an unlocked WP8, mostly the 8X coz that's the only one which will work with the 1700MHz freq
    If this app is compiled as a WP7 executable, that would explain; but looking at the way T-Mo is trying to tied their customers... ;)

    Just a warning for the HTC 8X, it's only the LTE band that is 1700, not the 3.5G as T-Mo, Wind and Videotron, look at the spec : HTC Windows Phone 8X - Full phone specifications
    12-09-2012 11:14 AM
  4. pankaj981's Avatar
    If this app is compiled as a WP7 executable, that would explain; but looking at the way T-Mo is trying to tied their customers... ;)

    Just a warning for the HTC 8X, it's only the LTE band that is 1700, not the 3.5G as T-Mo, Wind and Videotron, look at the spec : HTC Windows Phone 8X - Full phone specifications
    8X is currently available for T-Mobile so will get that one...also I think T-Mobile is not as bad as AT&T, atleast they give out the unlock codes.
    12-09-2012 11:18 AM
  5. docteurvez's Avatar
    8X is currently available for T-Mobile so will get that one...also I think T-Mobile is not as bad as AT&T, atleast they give out the unlock codes.
    You're right, I maybe just a bit angry (my French/Latin side...). ;)
    12-09-2012 11:25 AM
  6. docteurvez's Avatar
    I am not sure if a .reg file can be used to change these values since I know that Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 share the same folder structure. Just run the .reg file and the phone settings change.

    Can anyone try this out? Or atleast create a .reg file?
    I just did, but WP8 told me "there is no application associated with this file type."; there is probably no regedit app with WP8.
    12-09-2012 12:07 PM
  7. pankaj981's Avatar
    You're right, I maybe just a bit angry (my French/Latin side...). ;)
    Well even I am going to angry in the next 2 months if this issue still persists, BTW I emailed Jay Bennett, the WPCentral App Developer to check if he knows whether .reg files work on WP8 to toggle/update registry entries, I hope I get a positive reply...or atleast a reply
    12-09-2012 12:09 PM
  8. docteurvez's Avatar
    Well even I am going to angry in the next 2 months if this issue still persists, BTW I emailed Jay Bennett, the WPCentral App Developer to check if he knows whether .reg files work on WP8 to toggle/update registry entries, I hope I get a positive reply...or atleast a reply
    That's cool, because my last hope would be to code a C++/C# app to get to this registry settings via the Win32 API available in the new WP8 SDK.
    12-09-2012 12:16 PM
  9. waazzupppp's Avatar
    All these talks of lawsuits are silly... Seriously, you bought a T-Mobile device and now you are complaining that T-Mobile won't let you take it to another carrier? I took my 810 to Solavei and have had everything work perfectly out of the box except for sending MMS messages... I can live with that for a few months until the exclusive period is over and they start allowing people to use them where ever. It bugs me a lot when people say you should be able to use a phone designed for a carrier on another network - even when purchased outright from the carrier. You bought a phone in a T-Mobile box for the T-Mobile network... Return it, get your refund and move along. You should have asked about using the device on other networks before you bought it. It's not like the Lumia 900 that is still locked to AT&T if you don't have an account with them... That's just wrong...
    12-09-2012 04:48 PM
  10. Charkatak's Avatar
    Great! Thanks! Have you checked firmware form Lumia 820 (RM-825) I am about to check this product code 059Q961 which is CV RU. I am sure that these firmware files are from an unlocked phone. I would like to try and compare the anp settings with 810 and then may be it would be possible to just copy all the strings.... Before I had a nokia firmware cooker for *rofs files when they had symbian.
    By the way, have you thought about flashing 820 firmware onto 810? There are couple of differences, that I can think of: front facing camera is 720p on 810 and VGA on 820. Also the antennas, but don't really think it would make a difference. I have flashed Lumia 710 which was t-mobile branded with unbranded 710. They had slightly different antenna bands and different RM-Types, but still it worked great and I do have that phone still.
    12-09-2012 04:56 PM
  11. pankaj981's Avatar
    All these talks of lawsuits are silly... Seriously, you bought a T-Mobile device and now you are complaining that T-Mobile won't let you take it to another carrier? I took my 810 to Solavei and have had everything work perfectly out of the box except for sending MMS messages... I can live with that for a few months until the exclusive period is over and they start allowing people to use them where ever. It bugs me a lot when people say you should be able to use a phone designed for a carrier on another network - even when purchased outright from the carrier. You bought a phone in a T-Mobile box for the T-Mobile network... Return it, get your refund and move along. You should have asked about using the device on other networks before you bought it. It's not like the Lumia 900 that is still locked to AT&T if you don't have an account with them... That's just wrong...

    I am not sure why are you advertising this Solavei all over the forum...
    12-09-2012 08:07 PM
  12. Mystictrust's Avatar
    I am not sure why are you advertising this Solavei all over the forum...
    It's a personal referral link afaik. Since it looks like this company has some sort of referral share bonus thing or network that pays the more people that sign up, that's the reason - notice it's not just a link to the main website, but a link tagged with a referral code. Supposedly they pay you $20 for every three you sign up under you or your own referrals.
    12-10-2012 05:09 PM
  13. waazzupppp's Avatar
    Correct... I'm offering a service that works almost perfectly with the 810 out of the box, rather than telling everyone about the ones that don't - and threatening a class action suit... The biggest complaint that I have seen with the 810 so far is that the APN's aren't able to be edited - this is an MVNO solution that doesn't require it. Seems pretty relevant to the posts that I offered it in to me... I should have probably included the "Shameless Plug Disclaimer" though...

    Anyway, sorry if it offended any, but I just wanted to let people know that it works ok on that service.
    12-10-2012 05:48 PM
  14. Charkatak's Avatar
    With the tool NaviFirm+, you can download the OS image for the 810. I edited the image and this is what I found :

    <Component ComponentName="Cellular Settings UX">
    <SettingsGroup>
    <Setting Name="HighestSpeed3G" Value="4G"/>
    <Setting Name="HideHighestSpeed" Value="1"/>
    <Setting Name="HighestSpeed4G" Value="LTE"/>
    <Setting Name="HideHighestSpeed4G" Value="1"/>
    <Setting Name="HideAPN" Value="1"/>
    <Setting Name="HideMMSAPN" Value="1"/>
    </SettingsGroup>
    </Component>


    Also, later in the image, you can find settings that look like Registry entries

    <SettingMapping RegName="HideAPN" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideAPN"/>
    <SettingMapping RegName="HideCDMAModeSelection" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideCDMAModeSelection"/>
    <SettingMapping RegName="HideCDMASelection" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideCDMASelection"/>
    <SettingMapping RegName="HideDataMMS" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideDataMMS"/>
    <SettingMapping RegName="HideDataRoamMMS" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideDataRoamMMS"/>
    <SettingMapping RegName="HideGSMNetworks" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideGSMNetworks"/>
    <SettingMapping RegName="HideHighestSpeed" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideHighestSpeed"/>
    <SettingMapping RegName="HideHighestSpeed2G" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideHighestSpeed2G"/>
    <SettingMapping RegName="HideHighestSpeed4G" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideHighestSpeed4G"/>
    <SettingMapping RegName="HideMMSAPN" RegType="REG_DWORD" RegKeyName="$(hklm.software)\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellUXOEMConfigurable" Name="HideMMSAPN"/>


    Maybe with a "rogue" App, we can unset those values "on the fly".
    I just talked to T-Mobile Rep and requested an unlock code. While at that I mentioned the missing "add apn" option and some other things. So he said he will bring it up to his manager in the upcoming meeting(should be today) and see if they will be able to talk to nokia and enable that option. I really hope that it will go through and we will see a small OTA update for the network/apn!
    12-10-2012 06:39 PM
  15. docteurvez's Avatar
    I just talked to T-Mobile Rep and requested an unlock code. While at that I mentioned the missing "add apn" option and some other things. So he said he will bring it up to his manager in the upcoming meeting(should be today) and see if they will be able to talk to nokia and enable that option. I really hope that it will go through and we will see a small OTA update for the network/apn!
    All fingers crossed ! Let's hope T-Mobile will see the light about this. :)
    12-10-2012 08:25 PM
  16. Charkatak's Avatar
    All fingers crossed ! Let's hope T-Mobile will see the light about this. :)
    Have you had strange battery indicator issue? So this is what I see every time: I let the phone's battery die, then plug in the charger. Battery icon appears and shows that it is charging and when there is enough power in the battery, phone starts. After that let the phone charge to 100%. Now disconnect the phone and use it normally. Even after 8 hours the indicator stays on 100%, although it isn't possible. Normal restart makes the battery indicator work properly.
    I have not yet tried to connect charger without lettting the phone die first. I will try it soon and see what happens.
    12-10-2012 09:06 PM
  17. pankaj981's Avatar
    Have you had strange battery indicator issue? So this is what I see every time: I let the phone's battery die, then plug in the charger. Battery icon appears and shows that it is charging and when there is enough power in the battery, phone starts. After that let the phone charge to 100%. Now disconnect the phone and use it normally. Even after 8 hours the indicator stays on 100%, although it isn't possible. Normal restart makes the battery indicator work properly.
    I have not yet tried to connect charger without lettting the phone die first. I will try it soon and see what happens.
    Thats a Lumia 810 exclusive feature
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    12-10-2012 10:15 PM
  18. Charkatak's Avatar
    I found a nokia network set up app file. Is it possible to make it work on WP8? I need the way to load it onto my lumia 810 :(
    12-11-2012 04:03 PM
  19. Guzzler3's Avatar
    I found a nokia network set up app file. Is it possible to make it work on WP8? I need the way to load it onto my lumia 810 :(
    Try putting the app on a SD card to try side loading. (I doubt it will work though).
    12-11-2012 05:37 PM
  20. Charkatak's Avatar
    Try putting the app on a SD card to try side loading. (I doubt it will work though).
    This stupid WP8 system is able to read media files, not apps. So no luck with the app. :(
    12-11-2012 07:19 PM
  21. limitedmage's Avatar
    How did you get the app file? I have a dev unlocked phone, I could try it.
    12-11-2012 07:57 PM
  22. Charkatak's Avatar
    How did you get the app file? I have a dev unlocked phone, I could try it.
    I attached the file here. I found it online on one of the forums. There was a thread for Lumia 800 and I think it is from WP7.5. Try it at least.
    Attached Files
    12-11-2012 08:14 PM
  23. Mystictrust's Avatar
    How did you get the app file? I have a dev unlocked phone, I could try it.
    It likely requires an interop-unlock or something because of what it does. Thanks for the file, Gogas.
    12-11-2012 08:33 PM
  24. Charkatak's Avatar
    It likely requires an interop-unlock or something because of what it does. Thanks for the file, Gogas.
    I have found another file, could that be the "Nokia Interop Unlock"?
    Attached Files
    12-11-2012 08:47 PM
  25. Mystictrust's Avatar
    I have found another file, could that be the "Nokia Interop Unlock"?
    Now you've discovered a catch-22. See, the interop unlock exploit for Nokia devices worked by taking advantage of nokia's network setup app... so you have to have the network setup app on your phone for the interop unlock to work. Hehehe. Then again, WP8 runs on an entirely different kernel than WP7 so that may not even work anymore.
    12-11-2012 09:13 PM
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