11-09-2013 12:57 AM
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  1. jridgers's Avatar
    I just was on the Verizon Wireless website looking at their Windows Phone devices and noticed the Nokia Lumia 822 is not appearing any longer (not grayed put as sold out, just gone). Is Verizon dropping this device?
    10-25-2013 12:23 AM
  2. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    It's still available from the Microsoft store or from amazon.com.
    10-25-2013 12:38 AM
  3. garciaj85's Avatar
    Its considered EOL(end of life) by Verizon. So yes, it is being dropped. Its still available in some stores. They still offer the Lumia 928 and should be releasing a new windows phone soon.
    10-25-2013 09:50 AM
  4. benny142's Avatar
    oh oh.. thts bad news!! so we wont be seeing the official gdr3 then.. i guess!! :(((
    10-25-2013 12:53 PM
  5. bigboy29's Avatar
    oh oh.. thts bad news!! so we wont be seeing the official gdr3 then.. i guess!! :(((
    That would be a wrong guess. Availability of devices in stores for new contracts has nothing to do with GDR updates. This is not Android. :)
    10-25-2013 01:45 PM
  6. Mr. MacPhisto's Avatar
    GDR3 is coming to all Verizon Windows Phones - and probably much sooner than you think. I'd guess it'll be rolled out completely by mid-November, if not sooner.

    Verizon is getting the 929, a 5"ish version of the 1520 with microSD expansion, 20MP camera, quadcore Snapdragon, and 1080p screen. I believe the 928 will remain and the 525 will be launched as Verizon's version of the 520 series. That one will be an inexpensive phone on or off contract at $150 or less. Difference between it and the 520 and 521 is that it is CDMA and it has a LTE radio, from what I hear.

    Also hearing the ATIV S Neo may not only be expanding to AT&T, but may also be coming to Verizon. Hearing the same for the HTC 8XT. Believe VZW may pull the HTC 8X in favor of the 8XT (they love the expandability of the 8XT), will keep the ATIV Odyssey (it has actually sold well), and will expand it's Nokia lineup to three phones.

    It's not Gospel yet, but I'm hearing that the Windows Phone lineup for Verizon going into Christmas season will be:

    Samsung ATIV S Neo (Think it will be $99 on contract)
    Samsung ATIV Odyssey (free on contract)
    HTC 8XT (with leftovers of the 8X out there too until inventory is gone - probably around $50 on contract, but might be $99)
    Nokia Lumia 525 (Imagine the 520/21 with LTE and CDMA as an unlocked global phone for $150 or less)
    Nokia Lumia 928 (expect it to stay at $100 or lower with 2 year contract).
    Nokia Lumia 929 (think it will be $199 with two year contract).

    Expect a 1080p version of the 1020 with other enhancements around Easter time. That phone actually might be a 1020 with a 5.5" to 6" display, 1080p, and microSD.
    10-25-2013 05:41 PM
  7. 12Danny123's Avatar
    GDR3 is coming to all Verizon Windows Phones - and probably much sooner than you think. I'd guess it'll be rolled out completely by mid-November, if not sooner.

    Verizon is getting the 929, a 5"ish version of the 1520 with microSD expansion, 20MP camera, quadcore Snapdragon, and 1080p screen. I believe the 928 will remain and the 525 will be launched as Verizon's version of the 520 series. That one will be an inexpensive phone on or off contract at $150 or less. Difference between it and the 520 and 521 is that it is CDMA and it has a LTE radio, from what I hear.

    Also hearing the ATIV S Neo may not only be expanding to AT&T, but may also be coming to Verizon. Hearing the same for the HTC 8XT. Believe VZW may pull the HTC 8X in favor of the 8XT (they love the expandability of the 8XT), will keep the ATIV Odyssey (it has actually sold well), and will expand it's Nokia lineup to three phones.

    It's not Gospel yet, but I'm hearing that the Windows Phone lineup for Verizon going into Christmas season will be:

    Samsung ATIV S Neo (Think it will be $99 on contract)
    Samsung ATIV Odyssey (free on contract)
    HTC 8XT (with leftovers of the 8X out there too until inventory is gone - probably around $50 on contract, but might be $99)
    Nokia Lumia 525 (Imagine the 520/21 with LTE and CDMA as an unlocked global phone for $150 or less)
    Nokia Lumia 928 (expect it to stay at $100 or lower with 2 year contract).
    Nokia Lumia 929 (think it will be $199 with two year contract).

    Expect a 1080p version of the 1020 with other enhancements around Easter time. That phone actually might be a 1020 with a 5.5" to 6" display, 1080p, and microSD.
    wow a lot of WPs for Verizon if this is true :-). Wonder how Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile's WP lineup will compare
    10-25-2013 05:57 PM
  8. Mr. MacPhisto's Avatar
    wow a lot of WPs for Verizon if this is true :-). Wonder how Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile's WP lineup will compare
    Well, I know AT&T is releasing the ATIV S Neo at the beginning of November to go with the 8X, the 925, the 1020, the 1520, and the 520 - not sure if the 920 will stay around or not. But the ATIV S Neo and the 1520 could give AT&T seven Windows Phone options.

    T-Mobile has the 925 and 521. The 8X is gone there. I wonder if HTC is going to roll out the 8XT to everyone. Might make some sense. Low cost phone that is expandable.

    I'd have to think Sprint would like to get a Nokia or two. I know that the sales of the 520 series have caused all the carriers to take notice and want one to push people into smartphones.
    10-25-2013 08:47 PM
  9. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    Well, I know AT&T is releasing the ATIV S Neo at the beginning of November to go with the 8X, the 925, the 1020, the 1520, and the 520 - not sure if the 920 will stay around or not. But the ATIV S Neo and the 1520 could give AT&T seven Windows Phone options.

    T-Mobile has the 925 and 521. The 8X is gone there. I wonder if HTC is going to roll out the 8XT to everyone. Might make some sense. Low cost phone that is expandable.

    I'd have to think Sprint would like to get a Nokia or two. I know that the sales of the 520 series have caused all the carriers to take notice and want one to push people into smartphones.
    Not that I am calling you a liar, do you have any sources?
    10-25-2013 09:16 PM
  10. berty6294's Avatar
    Not that I am calling you a liar, do you have any sources?
    He is his own source. Dude is always right lol.

    Good stuff, probably getting a 929 off contract and selling my 928 (I've kept it in perfect condition!)
    10-25-2013 09:37 PM
  11. Mr. MacPhisto's Avatar
    Not that I am calling you a liar, do you have any sources?
    Not for anyone outside of Verizon. Those are guesses. I have a source in VZW corporate sales. There always needs to be a disclaimer that phone plans are often in flux.

    That said, the 929 is pretty much set in stone. I have heard less on the 525,but I'd guess that's it's almost a certainty.

    The one I'm least sure of is the 8XT. I could see VZW dropping HTC for WP entirely because of 8X sales. The ATIV Odyssey has done well, so they've wanted a higher end Samsung for awhile.
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    10-25-2013 11:33 PM
  12. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    Not for anyone outside of Verizon. Those are guesses. I have a source in VZW corporate sales. There always needs to be a disclaimer that phone plans are often in flux.

    That said, the 929 is pretty much set in stone. I have heard less on the 525,but I'd guess that's it's almost a certainty.

    The one I'm least sure of is the 8XT. I could see VZW dropping HTC for WP entirely because of 8X sales. The ATIV Odyssey has done well, so they've wanted a higher end Samsung for awhile.
    I am shocked the odyssey did well tbh
    xandros9 likes this.
    10-26-2013 02:09 AM
  13. willied's Avatar
    I am shocked the odyssey did well tbh
    So am I. There's virtually no activity in the Odyssey section of the forum. However, my mom and one my friends both have Odysseys. :P
    10-27-2013 12:58 PM
  14. Mr. MacPhisto's Avatar
    I believe it outsold the 8X on Verizon. The 822 was their top seller, with the 928 doing pretty well since launch.

    The size of the Odyssey is what people like about it - on the smaller end of smartphone.
    10-27-2013 09:34 PM
  15. berty6294's Avatar
    I was under the impression the 822 was one of if not THE top selling Windows Phone in the US!
    10-27-2013 09:39 PM
  16. hopmedic's Avatar
    Not that I am calling you a liar, do you have any sources?
    Mr. Mac has not failed us yet..... He has an excellent reputation on the boards here for being a good source. He was our lifeline last year when we were waiting for WP8 devices, and early this year when the 928 was not yet out. I haven't heard from him in a while, but that has not diminished my faith in him.
    10-28-2013 09:55 AM
  17. hopmedic's Avatar
    Expect a 1080p version of the 1020 with other enhancements around Easter time. That phone actually might be a 1020 with a 5.5" to 6" display, 1080p, and microSD.
    Man, I was so hoping for this to be a lot sooner than Easter. Figured it wouldn't make Christmas because of ATT not getting it until July was it? But Had hoped for close to the start of the year. Oh, well... At least I have the 928 goodness until then!

    I would prefer that it stay the 4.5" size, though..... And keeping the same form factor as the 1020 would be great, so we could use all of those accessories. It was a real drag when the 928 came out and all of those 920 cases that looked so great would not fit the 928. We had to hound companies to make accessories, and that took months - and that's for the ones who said yes. There are still many who say no.

    This exclusivity thing really has to go.
    10-28-2013 10:02 AM
  18. Mr. MacPhisto's Avatar
    Man, I was so hoping for this to be a lot sooner than Easter. Figured it wouldn't make Christmas because of ATT not getting it until July was it? But Had hoped for close to the start of the year. Oh, well... At least I have the 928 goodness until then!

    I would prefer that it stay the 4.5" size, though..... And keeping the same form factor as the 1020 would be great, so we could use all of those accessories. It was a real drag when the 928 came out and all of those 920 cases that looked so great would not fit the 928. We had to hound companies to make accessories, and that took months - and that's for the ones who said yes. There are still many who say no.

    This exclusivity thing really has to go.
    Eexclusivity will only stop when the sales really take off. Unless you're a volume leader, exclusives happen. LG often has different Android phones on each carrier. So does Samsung outside the Galaxy line. Apple is the exception, with their one line.

    Part of this is due to Verizon and AT&T using different technologies. Part is to get a carrier to help carry the cost of pushing the phone. Why should AT&T spend money promoting the 1020 if people could get it on Verizon. Works for iPhone and Galaxy, but not much else.
    10-28-2013 03:42 PM
  19. hopmedic's Avatar
    Oh, I do understand the why of it. I just believe that from the consumer perspective, it is terrible.
    10-28-2013 04:41 PM
  20. CX1's Avatar
    Just noticed the 822 removed from the Verizon. Need an exchange but think if I wait maybe I'll get a 9xx as replacement.
    10-29-2013 09:53 AM
  21. willied's Avatar
    I believe it outsold the 8X on Verizon. The 822 was their top seller, with the 928 doing pretty well since launch.

    The size of the Odyssey is what people like about it - on the smaller end of smartphone.
    I love the size of the Odyssey. I just wish we could get a high end phone in that size (720P screen, better camera, etc.).


    I was under the impression the 822 was one of if not THE top selling Windows Phone in the US!
    It was the best selling WP in the US until the 520/521 overtook it.
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    10-29-2013 10:55 AM
  22. Mr. MacPhisto's Avatar
    I love the size of the Odyssey. I just wish we could get a high end phone in that size (720P screen, better camera, etc.).




    It was the best selling WP in the US until the 520/521 overtook it.
    I agree. I'm not all that familiar with the Android space, but I think the only smallish phone with overall decent specs is the iPhone. Personally, I'd love to see a phone with a 3.8 or 4" 768P screen and the 92X's 8.7MP Pureview with a Quadcore or the highest end dual core Snapdragon. A small, light phone that is a direct iPhone competitor in size with microSD as a big selling point. I wouldn't buy it because I like the larger phone, but millions of 4" devices are sold each year in the form of the iPhone. Is it merely because it's an iPhone? There's some of that, sure. But I'd bet there's a segment of the population that does not want 4.5", 5", 5.5", etc phones. They were used to tiny flip phones and now they're expected to carry a tank?

    To me, the key is building the same internals to fit different sized enclosures with larger and smaller screens. Imagine of the 928, 925, or their successors and this smaller device all had the same internals that could mount in different sized enclosures. You get greater volume from one construction with variability in screen size and possibly in battery size.

    I do love the Nokia has introduced a diverse set of options. I'd like to see the 720 come stateside and gradually see the low end res bumped up to 720p.
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    10-29-2013 08:37 PM
  23. Groover1971's Avatar
    Yes, the Lumia 822 rocks. I was looking to see what phone I might get for my daughter from Verizon and couldn't find it on Verizon Wireless. I guess that means that I'll have to upgrade and let her have my 822. My problem is that I want a Windows Phone 'world phone' with a removable battery and expandable memory (removable micro SD card). Will Verizon get another phone with this combination? I may have to get her that 525 and keep mine.
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    10-29-2013 08:45 PM
  24. Blkacesvf41's Avatar
    Yes, the Lumia 822 rocks. I was looking to see what phone I might get for my daughter from Verizon and couldn't find it on Verizon Wireless. I guess that means that I'll have to upgrade and let her have my 822. My problem is that I want a Windows Phone 'world phone' with a removable battery and expandable memory (removable micro SD card). Will Verizon get another phone with this combination? I may have to get her that 525 and keep mine.
    It does rock. Had mine since day one and love it!
    10-29-2013 09:04 PM
  25. jridgers's Avatar
    It was the best selling WP in the US until the 520/521 overtook it.
    What is the best selling WP as of late? The 1020? Just curious.
    10-29-2013 09:57 PM
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