09-17-2014 02:45 AM
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  1. wiggum15's Avatar
    So we know the 830 will hit the stores for just under 400, thats way to much.
    What do you think, why is it that expensive although the new Moto G with the same specs is 200 (!!) cheaper ?
    OIS...Pureview...but thats not 200 !

    Whats Nokia/MS strategy with this device, i dont know...at this price it will not sell.
    09-07-2014 05:08 AM
  2. prasath1234's Avatar
    Yes it will not sell.very soon price will drop and it will sell.
    From Windows phone
    09-07-2014 08:15 AM
  3. Liopleus Lin's Avatar
    730 has about the same spec and it's the competitor of Moto G, on 830 you pay the extra bucks for the camera and aluminum body.I do agree that the price premium of 830 is way too big, 50 more than 730 would be better since new 920 can be bought at less than $250.
    09-07-2014 08:23 AM
  4. prasath1234's Avatar
    Thats because Microsoft is greedy it wants to extract money from wp fanboys by selling lumia 830 at higher price.then sell the same for lower money.this happened for lumia 820 they first sold it for 28000 then dropped to 22000.but definitely lumia 830 is wayyyy better than lumia 820.
    09-07-2014 08:59 AM
  5. maclancer's Avatar
    You could probably buy a 1520 for 400
    09-07-2014 09:12 AM
  6. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    Yes it will not sell.very soon price will drop and it will sell.
    From Windows phone
    That logic would not work. What will more-likely happen is folks will see the price tag and write the 830 off, meaning they won't even notice a price drop.
    09-07-2014 09:56 AM
  7. prasath1234's Avatar
    No I believe some will wait for price cut nd buy it I mean fanboys
    09-07-2014 10:24 AM
  8. theoilyduke's Avatar
    It's a really nice looking phone but I agree too expensive. The HTC Desire 820 was anounced recently and that has a Snapdragon 615 (8 core A53), 5.5" 720p display, and front facing stereo speakers. I'm assuming this Nokia will have a better camera but the HTC will have the marketing bonus of larger numbers in 13mp vs 10mp rear camera and 8mp vs 1mp front camera. Plus the a53 (64bit) vs a7 (32bit) and 8 vs 4 core Snapdragon. I still think the Nokia phones still look the coolest but this thing is not priced like an underdog. The HTC 820 replaces the 816 which is a $300 to $350 off contract phone which I'm guessing the Lumia 830 would be priced around.
    09-07-2014 03:21 PM
  9. hemanlive's Avatar
    For those of you who do not think that 830 is over priced, I would say that real comparison should be with Nexus 5. In terms of street price, it is roughly the same as 830. What 830 has better? only rear camera (though the sensor size is smaller than Nexus 5)
    What Nexus has better: A much superior Processor, double the RAM, same screen size but with more than 50% higher pixel density. A slightly bigger battery that provides a significantly higher back-up, a better front camera and most importantly a much bigger market share and Android OS. There is hardly any other market which is as price sensitive as the Indian market. It is flooded with Android models with octacore processors, 2GB ram etc. for less the 15,000 INR (~$250). I am not saying Nokia belongs in that category. However, to win market shares the price points should be much lower for these specs.
    I absolutely love the windows platform, but why does MS forget that it has to play catch-up? It is not a leader and people are not standing overnight in long queues to lap up new models. In terms of specs it should have been the other way round: much higher specs on a Lumia than Android phones available at that price point.
    As for comparison with iPhones, they still demand a lot of snob value. People are crazy and it still is a style and status quotient particularly in India. MS has not and WILL NOT gain market share till the time it gets its pricing right
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    09-08-2014 03:30 AM
  10. hemanlive's Avatar
    Thats because Microsoft is greedy it wants to extract money from wp fanboys by selling lumia 830 at higher price.then sell the same for lower money.this happened for lumia 820 they first sold it for 28000 then dropped to 22000.but definitely lumia 830 is wayyyy better than lumia 820.
    I bought the 820 for INR 27,000 and still use it. It is a good phone and at that point, there were no real competitors. However, in the past 18 -20 months the market is flooded with both big and small brand phones coming at much lesser price. For its specifications, 830 should have been priced at sub INR 20,000 (>$330)
    09-08-2014 03:36 AM
  11. prasath1234's Avatar
    Then you are another wp user sho paid more for less.k
    From Windows phone
    09-08-2014 03:37 AM
  12. hemanlive's Avatar
    If you are referring to the subsequent price drops then it will hold true for all phones. Comparable Galaxy models of then are mostly discontinued and ones launched soon after for similar price points are now selling for less then INR 15,000. So, I don't consider that I paid more than I should have paid back then. However as of today, I do agree that there are much better options at lower price points and 830 may not succeed. More than anything else 730 will eat its share as it will come at almost 10K lower price.
    The only phone I would consider buying now is the 1520 which is available at around 35Ks.
    P.S. I have used android and little bit of iOS and there is no way I moving out of windows platform, or nokia/MS for that matter
    prasath1234 likes this.
    09-08-2014 03:54 AM
  13. wiggum15's Avatar
    In germany, the big IT news portals dont even reported about the 730 and 830.
    They will hit the stores for a huge pricetag, people will think they are just "some WP"...and remember nobody buys a WP.

    Now with a 390 price tag the 830 will be a really epic fail.
    09-08-2014 04:04 AM
  14. ams963's Avatar
    It's overpriced and it will be a failure.
    Etios, wiggum15 and Bodeanicus like this.
    09-08-2014 04:12 AM
  15. Ilasor's Avatar
    Now with a 390 price tag the 830 will be a really epic fail.
    Looks like the 830 is the new 720. The 720 was released for 369 with low end 520/620 hardware - and failed.
    Etios and prasath1234 like this.
    09-08-2014 05:39 AM
  16. anguslhs's Avatar
    I will not be that dissatisfied if MS gave us the 1.6Ghz version of the Snapdragon 400 processor. But no, it's the same processor found on the 630 and 730. Also, they should either price this cheaper than the competition or give better specs than the competition at the same price to attract people to Windows Phone. There's still no reason why people should buy a Windows Phone over an Android at this price range.
    09-08-2014 05:50 AM
  17. wiggum15's Avatar
    Yeah, the 720 was a device with premium build quality, good camera but otherwise low-end specs that hit the stores with a WAY TO HIGH price tag.
    The price never really went down and the 720 is just a obscure device inside the already obscure WP universum.
    The 830 will have the same problem.
    09-08-2014 05:56 AM
  18. Gaurav Paul's Avatar
    I think the 830 is the right phone for me. I have a 920 and a 720 and I think its the perfect upgrade. Given the price and the specs I'm sure a lot of people will complain, but when the 820 and the 720 were unveiled, they too didn't have top of the line specs and yet they perform remarkably on newer OS updates and its over a year and a half ago for the more younger 720 in question here. In that stand point I think the 830 is priced quite decently at 26k or so(~$400 that is). But before we go anywhere with that lets also see how Microsoft is marketing the device. They call it the "Affordable Flagship Device". So don't just get stuck with the work "affordable". People didn't get this mad when Apple said we'll make a cheaper version of the iPhone 5 and call it iPhone 5c and price it 42k+(that was the starting price in the Indian market). So please use your brains and then crib about a phone which is targeted at a population who want flagship quality device and can't really go all out with that. There will be ups and downs and I can happily live with that fact. The 830 is the perfect WP for me at the moment.
    Last edited by Gaurav Paul; 09-08-2014 at 06:52 AM.
    09-08-2014 06:23 AM
  19. prasath1234's Avatar
    I think the 830 is the right phone for me. I have a 920 and a 720 and I think its the perfect upgrade. Given the price and the specs I'm sure a lot of people will complain, but when the 820 and the 720 were unveiled, they too didn't have top of the line specs and yet they perform remarkably on newer OS updates and its over a year and a half ago for the more younger 720 in question here. In that stand point I think the 830 is priced quite decently at 26k or so(~$400 that is). But before we go anywhere with that lets also see how Microsoft is marketing the device. They call it the "Affordable Flagship Device". So don't just get stuck with the work "affordable". People didn't get this mad when Apple said we'll make a cheaper version of the iPhone 5 and call it iPhone 5c and price it 42k+(that was the starting price in the Indian market). So please use your brains and then crib about a phone which is targeted at a population who want flagship quality device and can't really go all out with that. There will be ups and downs and I can happily live with fact. The 830 is the perfect WP for me at the moment.
    Ya agree only one thing lumia 830 is better than iphone 5c in terms of price.
    09-08-2014 06:35 AM
  20. Morash1405's Avatar
    I do gree with you regarding the price of lumia 830. it should be around $330
    09-08-2014 08:39 AM
  21. tmc1979's Avatar
    When I got my 820, the street price increase to the 920 was €170. For a slightly bigger better screen and Pureview (ok, and Qi). Now the jump between 730 and 830 is less, and the price jump is also less, and both of them are less expensive at launch than the 720 and 820 were, and you guys are pulling comparison between the 830 at recommended retail and a frankly imaginary street price of €400 for the 1520 - an €800 phone!! - which doesn't make any sense - and complaining the 830 is too expensive! For a start the resellers offering you a 1520 at €400 are for sure not going to ask you to pay recommended retail for an 830!
    09-08-2014 01:55 PM
  22. wiggum15's Avatar
    330$ or 300 with taxes already included, yes, that would be the correct price !

    1520 is a old phone, fact is the 830 wil be in stores overpriced for many months, maybe 6 or more before the price drops into realistc regions...not MS fantasy price-tags
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    09-08-2014 01:55 PM
  23. Giddora's Avatar
    Wait... Moto G... The 3G phone with a crappy display, bigger chassie, support for only 32Gb of expandable memory, no dolby enhancements, no nfc, worthless camera, no image stabilization, 720p video recordings, ANDROID..., the oldest snapdragon 400 chipset out there and as usual... Worthless battery life (it's running Android)...

    You're really comparing the above phone with the Lumia 830 and think they should be the same price?
    09-08-2014 04:00 PM
  24. wiggum15's Avatar
    Not the same but the 830 should be 100 more expensive...not 200 !!
    Also some of your points are totally wrong, iam talking about the new MOTO G (2014) !
    And some other points like "Worthless battery life (it's running Android)..." are just bu11sh1*, sorry
    SAM 77 and Etios like this.
    09-08-2014 05:02 PM
  25. fdalbor's Avatar
    I have been a 820 owner for the past year and a half and I really like the phone a great deal. I got tired of waiting for the cyan/8.1 update for my 820 and went an bought a Moto G LTE for 209$ from Amazon.( was going to use it as my backup phone)/ The G has a great screen, very good battery life, and is very quick. It is a very nice really affordable phone. In fact aside from the middle ground camera its a great phone. I got the cyan/8.1 upgrade two days after I bought the Moto G. Now I can't decide if I want to upgrade to the 830. It has the same processor as my Moto G and cost twice as much. Trouble is while the 830 sounds nice I don't see it as the FLAGSHIP device it was being pushed as. It has the same resolution screen as the Moto also. I think I am going to wait until a real FLAGSHIP device comes out from Microsoft/Nokia. If it doesn't then I'll stick with the 820 (still a great phone) and the Moto G LTE.
    09-08-2014 08:52 PM
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