10-29-2014 01:05 AM
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  1. Chris_Kez's Avatar
    I've really been looking forward to replacing my cracked 920 with a new 830, but over the last couple of weeks I've become acutely aware of performance issues on my 920. I want to have some confidence that I'm not in for more of the same if I get an 830. I feel like I see "Resuming..." any time I try to do something. It's maddening. Also, IE has crashed a few times recently, and browsing is sluggish. On a few occasions I've tried to take a photo and it looks like the exposure has been turned all the way down and no light comes through. I launched Music for the first time in weeks this morning and it took several attempts to even load. The constant Resuming really kills me though. Is this an 8.1/Cyan thing? Upgrading the OS/firmware seems to have improved the laggy Start screen I had running the Dev Preview, but now this other stuff is creeping up.

    All together I'm just starting to feel like the phone is constantly getting in my way. I've even started looking at a 2013 Moto X as an option instead of the 830. Anyone have experiences they can share?
    10-22-2014 03:39 PM
  2. vertigo_x's Avatar
    I've really been looking forward to replacing my cracked 920 with a new 830, but over the last couple of weeks I've become acutely aware of performance issues on my 920. I want to have some confidence that I'm not in for more of the same if I get an 830. I feel like I see "Resuming..." any time I try to do something. It's maddening. Also, IE has crashed a few times recently, and browsing is sluggish. On a few occasions I've tried to take a photo and it looks like the exposure has been turned all the way down and no light comes through. I launched Music for the first time in weeks this morning and it took several attempts to even load. The constant Resuming really kills me though. Is this an 8.1/Cyan thing? Upgrading the OS/firmware seems to have improved the laggy Start screen I had running the Dev Preview, but now this other stuff is creeping up.

    All together I'm just starting to feel like the phone is constantly getting in my way. I've even started looking at a 2013 Moto X as an option instead of the 830. Anyone have experiences they can share?
    My 830 is great so far. I don't recall ever seeing the "Resuming..."
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    10-22-2014 04:07 PM
  3. kevm14's Avatar
    Dan's comparison:
    Nokia Lumia 830 vs Lumia 920: Is it a worthy upgrade? | Windows Central

    And someone else's:


    Seems like an improvement to me.
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    10-22-2014 04:10 PM
  4. sahib lopez's Avatar
    The only time I see resuming js using Skype and Nokia cam ( they are offenders on most WP) but other than that I haven't seen any resuming either
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    10-22-2014 04:11 PM
  5. Chris_Germany's Avatar
    with 1GB you see less resuming. But its the OS / not optimised apps...
    10-22-2014 04:32 PM
  6. Likwidz's Avatar
    Can't recall any lagging resume issues here either.l
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    10-22-2014 04:37 PM
  7. -Dice-'s Avatar
    I've Seen it sometimes, but everytime fort less than a second!
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    10-23-2014 01:43 AM
  8. pandhersaab27's Avatar
    That was exactly my situation with 920, I need to hit music app 4-5 times just to open it..and that also full 1 min later....cant leave WP so got a 830 and im very happy no lag at all, music app opens instantly..everything is super smooth compared to 920.
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    10-23-2014 11:42 AM
  9. Andrew Wilson1's Avatar
    Better than on my 1020 which on paper has better specs. It isn't a concern at all!
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    10-23-2014 04:50 PM
  10. undulose's Avatar
    For the OP, why don't you wait on Lumia Denim first before deciding to go with 830?
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    10-24-2014 03:00 AM
  11. Tellus82's Avatar
    As a tip, if you have problems opening he music app it's more likely to be the music library causing issues if anything. On the 830 there is another thing to keep in mind and that is don't use a slow sd card in it. I bought a Samsung 64GB PRO series card for mine and with that it works ALOT better then with an old 32GB sandisk. The Samsung card offers around 50MBps read/write while the sandisk offered a low 5MBps, if you use an app that accsses something on said sd card you can imagine the difference. (as an example, If you have photo's set to be stored on sd card the camera app will show a big difference in speed between shots)

    As for the resuming i have only seen it resume something once, that was during an 8 hour marathon of installing apps, setting upp accounts, testing games & apps left & right and generally doing silly things as if trying to get the phone to screw up. Mind you i am not running any preview nor am i using a prototype. (denim on RM-984_1005)
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    10-24-2014 03:56 AM
  12. Haris M's Avatar
    No resuming in my l730.. Same spec
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    10-24-2014 04:32 AM
  13. Chris_Kez's Avatar
    For the OP, why don't you wait on Lumia Denim first before deciding to go with 830?
    Let's just say I'm eager to get a new device.
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    10-24-2014 07:57 AM
  14. Chris_Kez's Avatar
    I'm encouraged by the feedback I've gotten from you guys. I'm going to keep the 920 for two more weeks then probably pick up an 830 as soon as AT&T has them. I'm still thinking about getting a 2013 Moto X sometime soon just to play around, but I could get a cheaper/less pristine one if it's not going to be my daily driver.
    10-24-2014 08:02 AM
  15. a5cent's Avatar
    It depends:

    Someone who consistently closes the apps they use will never see the resuming message.

    Someone who uses only WP8.0 apps and never closes them will see the resuming message just as often as they did on the 920, assuming the exact same version of those WP8.0 apps are used.

    Any differences you'll notice will be down to a combination of OS version, whether the used apps are for 8.0 or 8.1, and whether the user has OCD (closes apps).

    That is why you are getting contradictory reports from different people.
    Last edited by a5cent; 10-26-2014 at 04:38 PM. Reason: formatting
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    10-24-2014 08:54 AM
  16. kevm14's Avatar
    But side by side the 830 seems to do better at the "resuming" situation than the 920. So it isn't just about how much ram there is. There are contributions from the SoC architecture (ram speeds, for one). And possibly Denim.
    10-24-2014 07:29 PM
  17. a5cent's Avatar
    But side by side the 830 seems to do better at the "resuming" situation than the 920. So it isn't just about how much ram there is. There are contributions from the SoC architecture (ram speeds, for one). And possibly Denim.

    People are reporting that they see the resuming message less often. That has nothing to do with the SoC. How often you see that message is only related to OS and apps (which apps and whether they are built for 8.0 or 8.1), and how often people close apps.

    RAM capacity would be the most important factor, but since both 920 and 830 have 1GB it doesn't play a role in this comparison. The performance of individual components, including RAM performance, can only contribute to shortening the resuming delay, but can't remove it entirely, which changes in memory management made in 8.1 can.
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    10-25-2014 04:48 AM
  18. niutu's Avatar
    I've used the 830 for a few weeks now and I have to concur with most comments that "resuming" is faster in 830 vs. 920/925/1020. Especially when using MixRadio the difference is noticeable.
    10-25-2014 07:35 AM
  19. mjrtoo's Avatar
    I rarely get resuming messages on my 925. And never with mix radio. Not sure what's up with your phones.
    10-25-2014 07:41 AM
  20. kevm14's Avatar
    People are reporting that they see the resuming message less often. That has nothing to do with the SoC.
    I said side by side. Opening and closing the same apps on both devices, 920 running Cyan and the latest OS. Aside from that, the anecdotes are piling up that confirm in general usage (where there are more variables), the 830 still seems consistently better here. There's nothing inconclusive about it.
    10-25-2014 08:15 AM
  21. KhawarNadeem's Avatar
    It depends:


    Someone who consistently closes the apps they use will never see the resuming message.


    Someone who uses only WP8.0 apps and never closes them will see the resuming message just as often as they did on the 920, assuming the exact same version of those WP8.0 apps are used.
    Um, I'm confused with your first statement. Isn't it that if you *don't* swipe close the app, it'll be faster to resume and hence you *won't* see the Resuming screen? Because I am pretty sure I close the Nokia camera app in the background and when I wake it using camera button I still see it for a second or two (and yes, it says Resuming not Loading).

    And what about the "App fast resume" thing MS was touting? Did they announce that with 8.1 or 8.0? Shouldn't it have instant loadup times for 8.0 apps even if they're running 8.1?

    And to the poster above, MixRadio doesn't have a Resuming screen, but the splash screen and all take a while to load up on my 925 even I don't completely close the app. By comparison Xbox Music loads up considerably faster.

    I still dislike how 8.1 feels slower at launching apps than 8.0 though. It's my only gripe with the update.
    Last edited by KhawarNadeem; 10-25-2014 at 10:04 AM.
    10-25-2014 08:43 AM
  22. a5cent's Avatar
    I said side by side. Opening and closing the same apps on both devices, 920 running Cyan and the latest OS. Aside from that, the anecdotes are piling up that confirm in general usage (where there are more variables), the 830 still seems consistently better here. There's nothing inconclusive about it.

    I'm not sure what you are saying here.

    My point is only that no matter how you compare the two, side by side or however, there is nothing that allows you to conclude that the SoC has any impact on how frequently we encounter the resuming message. Nothing. That is all I'm objecting to.

    However, we do know of many software related changes made to 8.1 that do influence resuming behavior.

    What I'm not objecting to, is that the SoC could influence for HOW LONG we see that resuming message, whenever it is shown. I don't know that to be true, but it is certainly possible.

    I also have an 830 (denim) and 920 (cyan) with the same apps. I would say I see the resuming message just as frequently on both, but on the 830 the delay is a bit shorter.
    10-25-2014 12:53 PM
  23. kevm14's Avatar
    My point is only that no matter how you compare the two, side by side or however, there is nothing that allows you to conclude that the SoC has any impact on how frequently we encounter the resuming message. Nothing. That is all I'm objecting to.

    However, we do know of many software related changes made to 8.1 that do influence resuming behavior.
    It is possible to run the dev preview (and thus latest WP) on the 920 and rule out software changes. And some folks have done this. The only thing you'd be missing is Denim on the 920. Otherwise the differences should be ENTIRELY SoC related.
    10-25-2014 02:17 PM
  24. Chris_Kez's Avatar
    ...I would say I see the resuming message just as frequently on both, but on the 830 the delay is a bit shorter.
    And I would say this is probably the more salient point that better addresses my concern. Is "Resuming" better/worse/ same on the 830 as compared to the 920? I don't expect anyone to literally count the number of instances, or use high-speed photography to time their duration.
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    10-25-2014 02:42 PM
  25. a5cent's Avatar
    It is possible to run the dev preview (and thus latest WP) on the 920 and rule out software changes. And some folks have done this. The only thing you'd be missing is Denim on the 920. Otherwise the differences should be ENTIRELY SoC related.
    I agree. If software is actually the same. However, how many of the posts here specify OS and app version they had compared with? Almost none. I suspect few ensured they tested with the same OS and app versions. Both of those are far more important than the SoC.

    If OS and app versions are exactly the same, there is still a difference, but not a very big one. At least that is what I'm seeing.

    Even then though, how do you know it's SoC related? It could also be NAND chip performance (storage), or RAM bandwidth related, or both. Neither of those are part of the SoC. I'm not saying it isn't the SoC. Maybe having those two extra cores helps unload and load apps simultaneously. Could be. At least based on what I know, I just wouldn't be willing to bet on it.
    Last edited by a5cent; 10-25-2014 at 05:04 PM.
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    10-25-2014 04:40 PM
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