1. Fred Wilson2's Avatar
    Took a long time to go through all the updates, however I'm now on 8.1
    Also took a long time to restore all my apps from a previous backup from my 830.
    Interesting as heck, the 920 is a lot "snappier" (read -> faster) than the 830, at least right now.
    The graphics chip in the 920 is better and I'm kind of sure the ram in the 920 is faster and maybe even dual channel.
    Also, even though the 920 is a lot heavier than the 830, it's more "holdable" than the 830, IMHO.
    The 920 has the nice curved back and curved edges, not squared and "sharp" like the 830.
    It's going to be interesting the next few days. :)

    Fred
    01-13-2015 10:23 PM
  2. Zulfigar's Avatar
    By all means, be as harsh as you can be, please. :)
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    01-13-2015 10:29 PM
  3. Fred Wilson2's Avatar
    Don't mean to be harsh, more curious than anything. Seems the 920 is certainly "snappier" than my 830.
    The "double tap to wake" is much more responsive (yes, touch settings the same on both phones) and the glance screen is much more responsive than on my 830.
    Still loading up a lot of music and some additional apps.

    Fred
    01-13-2015 10:35 PM
  4. Fred Wilson2's Avatar
    Well a couple days now of side by side with my 830 and 920.

    - 920 has a better "holdablility" factor because of the Nokia "smile" and round corners I think.
    - 920 screen much, much more responsive to touch (yes, both are set for "normal" sensitivity).
    - 920 double tap to wake works perfectly 100% of the time, the 830 I can get to work 100% of the time, however I have to use two, easy, kind of slow taps for it.
    - 920 is "snappier" scrolling and loading most of the apps that I commonly use. I suspect that's due to the GPU and I think the 920 has faster ram and maybe even dual channel where the 830 has slower, single channel ram.
    - 830 has better battery life (so far, as expected) though not a lot better.

    Fred
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    01-15-2015 08:35 AM
  5. LoriInWA's Avatar
    I side-graded from the 920 to 830. I like the feel of the 830 better and the 830 is much snappier than the 920 imo. I agree that the touch reactions (double tap and overall sensitivity) on the 920 are better, but scrolling, etc., are better on the 830. The screen on the 830 is much brighter to me. My issues with the 830 vs. the 920 is that Bluetooth was better on the 920 and iheartradio worked on the 920. If these issues get resolved, I won't be unhappy with my decision. Battery life is WAY better and the heating up issue is WAY better on the 830 based on my usage of both.
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    01-15-2015 11:11 AM
  6. dysje's Avatar
    The CPU in the 920 is faster per core by quite a big margin but it has two less cores. So it depends on what you do if the 920 will turn out to be faster. And yes, it will in some cases. And yes the 920 has dual channel ram, while the 830 has single channel ram. The GPU is similar in both devices but since the memory bandwidth of the 920 is higher, this pays in overall quite a bit better graphics performance in some games.

    The 830 should have a LOT better battery life in return. And comparing my 925 to my 735 this really shows.

    But yes, your findings make perfect sense. The 830 however has other benefits that the 920 will have to miss, like a better, way better and sharper camera. dolby something and a few other neat tricks that came over the years.
    01-15-2015 12:14 PM
  7. xandros9's Avatar
    What do you think of the displays between the two? How are blacks?
    01-15-2015 09:44 PM
  8. white_Shadoww's Avatar
    920's scrolling might be feeling more smooth because of the 60 Hz display aka Puremotion HD+.
    01-15-2015 10:00 PM
  9. Fred Wilson2's Avatar
    Yup, probably. It's smoother for sure.
    It's also "snappier" (faster) for some reason, opening apps, etc.
    The angle of view of the screen is a little better also on the 920. I just compared them side by side.
    Not sure why that would be.

    Fred


    920's scrolling might be feeling more smooth because of the 60 Hz display aka Puremotion HD+.
    01-15-2015 10:22 PM
  10. Fred Wilson2's Avatar
    IMO, the screen on the 920 is better. Blacks are better and they are set the same.
    I'll use them both, side by side, for one more day (it's been two days already) and unless something really changes my mind, my 830 is going back in it's box and on the book shelf. :-P


    Fred


    What do you think of the displays between the two? How are blacks?
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    01-15-2015 10:28 PM
  11. pankaj981's Avatar
    The 920 is a superior phone minus the camera and horrid battery life when compared to the newer SD400 processor phones. I'm still using it while waiting for my 830 to return from Microsoft repair. The 920 does tend to heat up as well while playing games (expected), the 830 stays cool
    01-16-2015 01:14 AM
  12. white_Shadoww's Avatar
    The 920 is a superior phone minus the camera and horrid battery life when compared to the newer SD400 processor phones. I'm still using it while waiting for my 830 to return from Microsoft repair. The 920 does tend to heat up as well while playing games (expected), the 830 stays cool
    Actually camera too would be superior, if the post processing didn't kill all the details leaving a mere <5MP quality image in the name of 7 or 8MP. I agree with you on battery life n heating though.
    01-16-2015 06:12 AM
  13. Fred Wilson2's Avatar
    My 920 doesn't get hot, nothing like the 930 I tried for a couple of weeks. It will get a little warm when using some of the chat apps. The couple of chat apps that I use really are CPU intensive on all the WP's that I've had (635, 735, 830, 920, 930, 1020, 1520 and Samsung ATIV SE), so that was expected on this 920.
    Right now, 3rd day with the 920, my 830 is in it's box, on the bookcase, at home, and I'm at work with my 920 :-P

    At the 3rd day, I'm liking the 920 more than the 830. Easier to hold, even though it's heavier, much more "snappy", faster. Screen is better, battery life is less, though not a ton less, but certainly less, as expected.
    Regarding battery life, I had a Samsung S4 for about one year and it's battery life was what I call horrid, much worse than this 920 I have. I even carried a extra battery with me .
    Camera has been fine, better in low light than on the 830. I only use the cp camera for snapshots sometimes anyway. I'm a photographer and use a "camera" for my real photos :-P.

    Anyway, to me, the 920, overall experience, so far, is proving to be the better phone.

    :)
    Fred
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    01-16-2015 08:53 AM
  14. pankaj981's Avatar
    Are your FFC photos slightly blurry on the 920?
    01-16-2015 08:57 AM
  15. Fred Wilson2's Avatar
    01-16-2015 09:49 AM
  16. pankaj981's Avatar
    Front facing camera
    01-16-2015 09:56 AM
  17. Fred Wilson2's Avatar
    Ah, haven't tried that :)
    I've never used the FFC on any cp that I've ever owned, just not in to selfies :-P

    I'll try it and see what it looks like.

    Fred
    01-16-2015 10:39 AM
  18. pankaj981's Avatar
    Ah, haven't tried that :) just not in to selfies :-P
    Fred
    Well I'm not either but I've crazy friends and their partners ;)
    01-16-2015 06:47 PM
  19. Fred Wilson2's Avatar
    Just took 2 FFC shots with the 830 and 920, in my living room while sitting on the couch in somewhat dim light. It's night here and I'm watching tc.
    920 is every bit as clear as the 830 shots and even better in the low light. I used the Camera360 app in both phones for the shots.


    Fred
    01-16-2015 09:05 PM
  20. Fred Wilson2's Avatar
    Well, it's been a couple of days now that my 830 has been in it's box sitting on the shelf and the 920 has been my daily driver (except when I tried the FFC on the 830 to compare with the 920).
    For me and IMHO, the 920 is better in everything (again that I do and for me) than the 830 other than battery life.
    The 920 is snappier, better screen, easier to hold, camera seems better, everything just runs quicker. Screen is probably better because of the insanely fast refresh rate and phone seems faster probably because of the dual channel ram and GPU.
    So, the 830 stays in it's box for another week or so, just to be sure, then I'll probably just sell it.
    Funny how a 2 year old plus cp, is "better" than a new one, though the 920 was a flagship at the time it came out.
    It's really a great phone.

    :)
    Fred
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    01-17-2015 10:30 PM
  21. scgf's Avatar
    Well I've been on quite a journey - bought a 920 in December 2012 after using iOS since the start. I loved it so much I sold my iPhone 5. Since then I have had a Nexus 5, a Lumia 930, an iPhone 6 and an LG G3. What am I using now as my daily driver? The 920! I have replaced the battery housing several times and most recently bought a genuine Nokia red housing which looks simply gorgeous with a red theme and black background. This housing was the first one I have bought which was just a shell - no antennae, camera lens,wifi or nfc antenna. I transferred everything over from one of my other housings.

    My heart is with the 920 - all the other phones I have had have been good, I enjoyed using them, but only my head was telling me they were good. It sounds ridiculous but I get such a different feeling using the 920 - a bit like having a car which you love and the feeling you get every time you go out for a drive in it. I even love the size and heft of the 920.

    I was out in Birmingham UK last night and the 920 was locking on to 4G almost constantly - my LG G3 and Nexus 5 saw sporadic glimpses of 4G in the same location but mostly show 3G.

    My least favourite phone was the iPhone 6. For me I found screen readability sub-par. To my eyes it always looked slightly fuzzy whereas the 920 is in a different league. This is partly down to Microsoft's choice of fonts and that simply beautiful Pureview screen. iOS feels old and dated and is way too simplistic.

    I'm now waiting for the next Microsoft flagship . . . long wait I know, lol.
    01-18-2015 04:59 AM
  22. hasasimo's Avatar
    Interesting stuff. I owned a 920 from November 2012 til early 2014. Switched to a 1520 and eventually the 830. I absolutely loved my 920, but it was time to move on. I prefer the 830... vastly superior battery life, removable battery/storage, easy to change colors, superior viewing angles (but inferior blacks overall). Camera I've found to be almost the same, though maybe low-light performance is a bit better on the 920. The 830 is also lighter, has a bigger display, and superior speakerphone quality (important for me). I found "snappiness" to be on equal footing. And the 1520 was only slightly snappier than both of them. With some operations there's actually no difference at all, even from the 1520.

    Overall the 920 was a lot better for it's time than the 830 is for it's, but that's not a fair comparison as one was meant to be a flagship and the other, well, not. Side by side in 2015 however? The 830 wins for me, no doubt.
    01-20-2015 02:12 AM

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