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  1. rahul4aug's Avatar
    I was lately planning to get the Lumia 830 mainly for its pureview camera ๐Ÿ“ท, but now with 640XL announced I am confused. 640 XL seems to have 13 mp camera, better battery, better front camera but I am not sure how its 13mp camera will fare against pureview 10 mp.
    Nakia Johnson1 and snowmutt like this.
    03-04-2015 10:04 PM
  2. ibbyj's Avatar
    Lets not forget the XL is half the price ;-)

    My 830 is going back this week in exchange for enough cash to get both a 640XL and a Band.
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    03-04-2015 10:06 PM
  3. hasasimo's Avatar
    Half the price? The international unlocked Lumia 830 is going for $300 these days. The 640XL is supposedly going to go for $250, and we all know the unlocked prices will be inflated to start. There won't be a big price difference, let alone half.

    As for which to choose, I think it simply comes down to how big of a phone you want and how big of a role aesthetics play for you. Although the 640XL is nice, it's no where near as beautiful as the Lumia 830 in my opinion.

    As for less subjective differences, I doubt the 640XL's camera will be better. I didn't hear anything about "PureView" tech. And the Lumia 830 has built in Optical Image Stabilization. If I'm not mistaken, the 640XL will not have that.

    The 830 also has built-in wireless charging. If you have any wireless charging accessories like I do, that's a big plus.

    In the end, they're both mid-range devices, but the 830 is a little closer to flagship status with the added features mentioned, in addition to a more premium build.
    03-04-2015 10:11 PM
  4. rahul4aug's Avatar
    Yes I guess there won't be much difference in price maybe max $50 and that too variable with markets. However it will come down to camera tech which I am inclined to believe 830 will be better but not quite sure ๐Ÿ˜“
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    03-04-2015 10:28 PM
  5. travis_valkyrie's Avatar
    The Lumia 830 is an 'affordable flagship'. Assuming the 640 XL is big enough to be considered a phablet, then this could potentailly replace the 13xx series for the position of an affordable phablet.

    But let's not get overboard with 640 XL being a potential 830 killer. If the 840 gets released, it will obviously have slightly better specs than the 640 XL.
    snowmutt likes this.
    03-05-2015 12:15 AM
  6. awesomeindeed's Avatar
    I'll wait and see where prices for this phone land before I decide what to do with my 830. I still don't have full Denim on my 830 that "came with" it from AT&T, so that kind of pisses me off. I know there are some minor differences between these devices as far as Qi and OIS go, but dual-sim LTE and a $250 starting price are pretty attractive as far as bang for your buck goes, especially for a budget-friendly phablet.
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    03-05-2015 12:52 PM
  7. BSobotta's Avatar
    Not really interested in the 640xl. The 830 really hit all the sweet spots for me. Build, glance, expendable, battery life, screen, camera. Really was going to pick up a 930, but inpatients won over.
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    03-05-2015 05:45 PM
  8. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Half the price? The international unlocked Lumia 830 is going for $300 these days. The 640XL is supposedly going to go for $250, and we all know the unlocked prices will be inflated to start. There won't be a big price difference, let alone half.

    As for which to choose, I think it simply comes down to how big of a phone you want and how big of a role aesthetics play for you. Although the 640XL is nice, it's no where near as beautiful as the Lumia 830 in my opinion.

    As for less subjective differences, I doubt the 640XL's camera will be better. I didn't hear anything about "PureView" tech. And the Lumia 830 has built in Optical Image Stabilization. If I'm not mistaken, the 640XL will not have that.

    The 830 also has built-in wireless charging. If you have any wireless charging accessories like I do, that's a big plus.

    In the end, they're both mid-range devices, but the 830 is a little closer to flagship status with the added features mentioned, in addition to a more premium build.

    Also the 3 HAAC that the 830 has that the 640xl doesn't have . ๐Ÿ˜Š
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    03-05-2015 06:21 PM
  9. Kebero's Avatar
    I was thinking about this when my 1520 screen shattered. As much as I miss the screen real estate, the wireless charging is too convenient for me to give up. Also, the camera is very important to me, and megapixels aside, the PureView branding has its benefits.
    BSobotta and hasasimo like this.
    03-05-2015 06:49 PM
  10. sahib lopez's Avatar
    to be honest I see the XL more as productivity device than a going out phone. im not saying the 830 isn't but when you compare what the XL has over the 830 is just the size. I see it like this the XL is for getting stuff done while the 830 is the phone to take when you go out to either take video or take pictures.
    03-05-2015 11:05 PM
  11. Mohamed Ashid's Avatar
    The XL beats the 830 in all perspective.
    03-05-2015 11:10 PM
  12. Mohamed Ashid's Avatar
    The mass storage is the only factor, where the 830 has an upper hand over the XL.
    03-05-2015 11:11 PM
  13. heickelrrx's Avatar
    If I have to choice I love get 830.

    If you going to get phablet go get 1520 don't hold back.

    830 is a great smartphone. I wish they sell it here and CUT the prices.

    And I still love to see Nokia logo on 830 (Metal frame too)
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    03-05-2015 11:23 PM
  14. sahib lopez's Avatar
    The XL beats the 830 in all perspective.
    how so?... the only thing going for the XL is the larger screen but other than that the 830 is better from the camera to the mics
    03-05-2015 11:32 PM
  15. Mohamed Ashid's Avatar
    how so?... the only thing going for the XL is the larger screen but other than that the 830 is better from the camera to the mics

    Camera:
    XL has 13 mp main camera and a 5 mp front. The 830 has 10 mp main camera and a 0.9 mp front.
    XL can record in 1080p using front camera and 830 only supports 720p.

    Lets compare the battery:
    The 830 has a 2200 mAh battery whereas the XL has a 3000 mAh Battery.
    According to MS site, XL has more than 30 days standby time (even with dual Sim) ,and 830 has just over 20.
    Last edited by Mohamed Ashid; 03-06-2015 at 12:21 AM.
    03-06-2015 12:01 AM
  16. hasasimo's Avatar
    XL has 13 mp main camera and a 5 mp front. The 830 has 10 mp main camera and a 0.9 mp front.
    XL can record in 1080p using front camera and 830 only supports 720p.

    Lets compare the battery:
    The 830 has a 2200 mAh battery whereas the XL has a 3000 mAh Battery.
    13MP is likely just a number until we see tests proving it's as good as a PureView camera with Optical Image Stabilization, which the 640XL does not have.

    Battery life on the 830 is as good as it gets on the market for a 5-inch device. Having a larger battery also means you're dealing with a bigger phone.

    Aside from OIS, you're also missing wireless charging and HAAC mics as sahib mentioned.

    Aesthetics and build quality? Advantage 830 as well.

    Pretty much the only thing the 640XL beats the Lumia 830 in is the front-facing camera. Which makes sense... it's not designed to be better than the 830.
    03-06-2015 12:23 AM
  17. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Camera:
    XL has 13 mp main camera and a 5 mp front. The 830 has 10 mp main camera and a 0.9 mp front.
    XL can record in 1080p using front camera and 830 only supports 720p.

    Lets compare the battery:
    The 830 has a 2200 mAh battery whereas the XL has a 3000 mAh Battery.
    According to MS site, XL has more than 30 days standby time (even with dual Sim) ,and 830 has just over 20.
    that's fine about the front facing camera im not going to argue over that :P... but the XL doesn't have purview which means no OIS so you will have to hold the phone more steady if you want to take low light pictures or a study video.

    the battery is going to be bigger because its a bigger device so they had more room to put a bigger battery.
    im not saying the XL is a bad device just that I think the 830 is a better buy
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    03-06-2015 12:43 AM
  18. Mohamed Ashid's Avatar
    So the 640 XL is not pureview, huh. And here I thought having a 13 mp camera, it must be pureview.
    03-06-2015 12:59 AM
  19. sahib lopez's Avatar
    So the 640 XL is not pureview, huh. And here I thought having a 13 mp camera, it must be pureview.
    nah only devices with the shutter button have purview :) well better yet only the 920,925,1020,1520,830,930 are purview cameras
    03-06-2015 01:03 AM
  20. Mohamed Ashid's Avatar
    nah only devices with the shutter button have purview :)
    So, the extra 3mp on XL won't make difference in the picture quality?
    03-06-2015 01:05 AM
  21. Mohamed Ashid's Avatar
    Sahib, you have an 830, right?
    Are the pictures taken with the front camera good?
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    03-06-2015 01:06 AM
  22. heickelrrx's Avatar
    He has 3000+ posts, he should know that megapixels are not as important as having OIS or Rich Recording.
    Post count isn't have relationships with someone opinion.
    Let's compare the battery 1st
    830 has close battery with 930. While 930 has full HD + snapdragon 800 830 only have 720p and snapdragon 400.
    930 also have 20mp camera while 830 only got a half

    That means it's dramatically improved battery life. While 930 have enough power for everyday uses. 830 lot better.

    So what is the relationship with 640XL?
    It's got bigger screen which is need more power usage. More resource usage when running apps. While they have similar chipset 830 has advantages due to it's small screen when it comes to battery life and performance.

    14MP yeah but let me ask you honestly. Does it really matter? Even you wouldn't know which devices used. Even 1020 user isn't going to post their full sized pict on social network.

    And I doubt people print and frame every picture they take with their smartphone.

    Again 14mp means more pixel. While they didn't have OIS feature the image they taken may not really different with 10mp with OIS but when it comes to low light conditions? See that yourself. And 14mp image take more space and 14mp sensor are heavier than 10mp it may be small but in theory 830 has better speed and battery life in shooting image.

    Now we come to it's physical condition. You all aware that 830 are designed by Nokia while 640XL by Microsoft. Looking back at 535 issues in touch who knows they didn't have any deflect too.
    If they didn't have any still Nokia made are get better build quality.
    03-06-2015 01:07 AM
  23. Mohamed Ashid's Avatar
    Post count isn't have relationships with someone opinion.
    Let's compare the battery 1st
    830 has close battery with 930. While 930 has full HD + snapdragon 800 830 only have 720p and snapdragon 400.
    930 also have 20mp camera while 830 only got a half

    That means it's dramatically improved battery life. While 930 have enough power for everyday uses. 830 lot better.

    So what is the relationship with 640XL?
    It's got bigger screen which is need more power usage. More resource usage when running apps. While they have similar chipset 830 has advantages due to it's small screen when it comes to battery life and performance.

    14MP yeah but let me ask you honestly. Does it really matter? Even you wouldn't know which devices used. Even 1020 user isn't going to post their full sized pict on social network.

    And I doubt people print and frame every picture they take with their smartphone.

    Again 14mp means more pixel. While they didn't have OIS feature the image they taken may not really different with 10mp with OIS but when it comes to low light conditions? See that yourself. And 14mp image take more space and 14mp sensor are heavier than 10mp it may be small but in theory 830 has better speed and battery life in shooting image.

    Now we come to it's physical condition. You all aware that 830 are designed by Nokia while 640XL by Microsoft. Looking back at 535 issues in touch who knows they didn't have any deflect too.
    If they didn't have any still Nokia made are get better build quality.
    Thanks!
    03-06-2015 01:10 AM
  24. zkyevolved's Avatar
    I was thinking about the 640XL but I instead got a 1520 used for more or less the same price (around 50 euros more). I thought that for the price, the 1520 is a much better buy:
    better processor
    better camera <-- really important for me
    better screen
    larger battery

    I am coming from the Lumia 930. What was killing me about the 930 was the battery life and the heat. I also needed an SD card as it turned out. So I was looking between the 640XL new or the 1520 used. I opted for the 1520. But if I couldn't get the 1520, I would have for sure purchased the 640XL. I'm not looking for a device to hold me over for a year. I was looking for a device that would hold me over until the next flagship device from MS. I need a larger than 5 inch screen. Easier typing. Larger fonts on the screen. Love it!

    I wish the 640XL had a FHD screen and wireless charging, but I would have survived without them. But the camera... the 830 will PROBABLY be better, but the 640XL will have a decent camera for the price. Everything comes down to "value for money" and I think the XL is a fantastic buy for 210 euros. Large battery, large screen, decent camera, awesome OS. For that money, I'd totally recommend it to ANY phone user for the price! Except maybe hardcore gamers or moders! haha.
    03-06-2015 03:18 AM
  25. envio's Avatar
    The 640XL arguably represents better overall value than the 830 and by extension, its lesser siblings, the 730/735. So if you're on a budget, the 640XL will likely meet or exceed your needs. However, with PureView, OIS, the latest features in Denim and a dedicated camera button, the 830 continues to standout with features that are important to me so I would still choose that. But for those that might have been hesitant because of cost, the 640XL will be a fantastic offering and will no doubt sell well and even entice potential switchers.
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    03-06-2015 05:09 AM
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