04-03-2012 10:59 PM
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  1. maseison's Avatar
    Somebody put out there review of the 900 before it was allowed!

    Nokia Lumia 900 Review
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    04-03-2012 11:27 AM
  2. PhilR8's Avatar
    Very positive review... except for the camera, and based on the sample photos posted with the review, it's easy to see why. They look like poop.

    Still, it's nice to see that everything else looks great and there's no mention whatsoever of any "lag."

    Look at the silver camera band, too:

    http://chipchick.chipchick.netdna-cd...0/dsc09243.jpg

    Already scratched.
    04-03-2012 11:48 AM
  3. AndreaCristiano's Avatar
    not a bad review thanks !
    04-03-2012 11:49 AM
  4. gtbuzz's Avatar
    Somebody put out there review of the 900 before it was allowed!

    Nokia Lumia 900 Review
    Pretty positive review. When are sites allowed to start publishing reviews of the phone?
    04-03-2012 12:02 PM
  5. maseison's Avatar
    Pretty positive review. When are sites allowed to start publishing reviews of the phone?
    that was my question too!
    04-03-2012 12:05 PM
  6. maseison's Avatar
    i never really use my phone to take too many pics so the camera isn't that big of a deal breaker for me.
    04-03-2012 12:07 PM
  7. kashk5's Avatar
    All these reports of the camera being a let down are a real bummer. I was hoping that I would be getting a killer camera with a Nokia device, but alas, it looks as though it won't be any better than my iPhone 4's camera.

    Here's hoping that it's merely a software issue that Nokia will fix with a future update.
    04-03-2012 12:17 PM
  8. scrapple's Avatar
    the nokia bumper should be enough to lift the back off the surface, thus no scratches..
    04-03-2012 12:26 PM
  9. PhilR8's Avatar
    Yeah, agree. I use the camera on my Arrive all the time and these Nokia samples look no better than what I'm used to. I really hope it's an issue with people misusing the two-stage camera button... the 900 does have at two-stage button, right?

    All these reports of the camera being a let down are a real bummer. I was hoping that I would be getting a killer camera with a Nokia device, but alas, it looks as though it won't be any better than my iPhone 4's camera.

    Here's hoping that it's merely a software issue that Nokia will fix with a future update.
    04-03-2012 12:26 PM
  10. PhilR8's Avatar
    Really finding these bumper suggestions ironic, especially since Nokia's advertising campaign directly references the iPhone "antennagate" issue that led to Apple to give iPhone owners free bumpers.

    the nokia bumper should be enough to lift the back off the surface, thus no scratches..
    04-03-2012 12:28 PM
  11. jmerrey's Avatar
    Very positive review... except for the camera, and based on the sample photos posted with the review, it's easy to see why. They look like poop.

    Still, it's nice to see that everything else looks great and there's no mention whatsoever of any "lag."

    Look at the silver camera band, too:

    http://chipchick.chipchick.netdna-cd...0/dsc09243.jpg

    Already scratched.
    I'm still a bit shocked that Nokia didn't do something about this on the 900; they had to have seen the same thing happen on the 800. They also obviously new something was up: if you look at the videos from CES, all the demo Lumia's had a clear packing strip over the camera band.

    Something else I noticed on seeing the AT&T reps devices in person was the sim card tray not lining up with the top. I thought it was just thier laziness, but it appears to be the same in this reviewers unit.
    04-03-2012 12:31 PM
  12. tekhna's Avatar
    All these reports of the camera being a let down are a real bummer. I was hoping that I would be getting a killer camera with a Nokia device, but alas, it looks as though it won't be any better than my iPhone 4's camera.

    Here's hoping that it's merely a software issue that Nokia will fix with a future update.
    This camera doesn't look anywhere near as good as the iphone 4's camera, never mind the 4S.
    04-03-2012 12:32 PM
  13. hellomiggy's Avatar
    I am going to make sure my silver band won't get scratch. Tape it is! And now I can see the Bad of the camera, It just looks too dark, but looking at the flowers they pop out and look amazing. I will not let that bring me down.
    04-03-2012 12:36 PM
  14. Los's Avatar
    Yeah, agree. I use the camera on my Arrive all the time and these Nokia samples look no better than what I'm used to. I really hope it's an issue with people misusing the two-stage camera button... the 900 does have at two-stage button, right?
    I have the Arrive too, and every pic I've seen so far from the Lumia 900 is way better. The Arrive cam is just horrible, It was before HTC recently stepped their game up with the Titan. Anyway, Maybe it's just a firmware issue like the 800. People are forgetting these are rushed devices to the market but any issues I'm sure Nokia will address in a timely fashion
    04-03-2012 12:37 PM
  15. dkp23's Avatar
    Sucks about the camera, i took some very badassness pictures in hawaii with my focus S, my GF who is an iphone user was like 0_0...how? I guess i wont see that type of quality any longer.

    Oh well, at least ill get LTE :)
    04-03-2012 12:41 PM
  16. scrapple's Avatar
    lets hope a software update can make the camera a bit better... prob not, but you never know..

    but in all reality, I have a NIKON D90... my camera on my phone is for drunken moments at bars for the most part
    nokia4life likes this.
    04-03-2012 12:42 PM
  17. peestandingup's Avatar
    i never really use my phone to take too many pics so the camera isn't that big of a deal breaker for me.
    Most people do though. Looking at these samples & the others that's been posted around, they look no better than my old iPhone 4. And that's almost a 2 year old phone.

    Nokia really did this phone an injustice by putting in such crappy optics.
    PhilR8 likes this.
    04-03-2012 01:13 PM
  18. chrise2's Avatar
    Maybe I'll just duct tape my iPhone 4S to the back. :)
    04-03-2012 01:22 PM
  19. JetLife87's Avatar
    The 800 had these complaints and I have seen some amazing photos from 800s. IDK if the 800 had been updated but I'm not worried.

    Some great panoramas taken by the Nokia Lumia 800 with Nokia Creative Studio | WMPoweruser
    04-03-2012 01:30 PM
  20. JPDVM2014's Avatar
    Really finding these bumper suggestions ironic, especially since Nokia's advertising campaign directly references the iPhone "antennagate" issue that led to Apple to give iPhone owners free bumpers.
    The difference is this issue doesn't affect the usability of the phone...


    The 800 had these complaints and I have seen some amazing photos from 800s. IDK if the 800 had been updated but I'm not worried.

    Some great panoramas taken by the Nokia Lumia 800 with Nokia Creative Studio | WMPoweruser
    Those look awesome! I really think that some of the issues are people misusing the two-stage camera button. Either that or there is a bad batch of 900 cameras. Because the pics in this review are pretty bad, but in some other threads, there are pretty good pics taken.
    04-03-2012 01:55 PM
  21. PhilR8's Avatar
    The Arrive takes okay/good pictures outdoors with great lighting and crappy pics indoors with poor lighting. Which is pretty much what we've seen out of the 900 so far.

    Arrive outdoors:

    1 2 3 4

    Arrive Indoors:

    1 2 3 4 5 6

    Those images run the gamut from good to bad. Now let's look at some pictures from the ChipChick review:

    900 outdoors:

    1 2 3


    900 indoors:

    1 2 3 4

    I look at these pictures and in my opinion, the 900 and the Arrive pictures look very similar.

    I have the Arrive too, and every pic I've seen so far from the Lumia 900 is way better. The Arrive cam is just horrible, It was before HTC recently stepped their game up with the Titan. Anyway, Maybe it's just a firmware issue like the 800. People are forgetting these are rushed devices to the market but any issues I'm sure Nokia will address in a timely fashion
    04-03-2012 02:45 PM
  22. theefman's Avatar
    One of the reasons people were excited about Nokia going with WP was their camera pedigree. The N8 is still king of camera phones, yet their WP offerings are not competitive even with HTC that has been producing crap cameras for years and have only recently made an effort. Really should have had this sorted out of the gate, especially since the same issue affected the 800, because knowing at&t there wont be any updates to fix this for months.
    04-03-2012 03:34 PM
  23. jawesome's Avatar
    Anyone else NOT surprised that the camera isn't the best? There is way too much hype around "Carl Zeiss optics" especially when the cameras on other Lumia devices released haven't been great.
    04-03-2012 03:50 PM
  24. grossitch's Avatar
    Anyone else NOT surprised that the camera isn't the best? There is way too much hype around "Carl Zeiss optics" especially when the cameras on other Lumia devices released haven't been great.
    Yea, maybe "carl zeiss" optics is equivalent to "beats audio." All marketing jargon.

    Is it me or do phone photos always look worse blown up on the computer? I hardly ever look at photos I take on my iPhone 4 anywhere else but on my phone.
    04-03-2012 04:21 PM
  25. PhilR8's Avatar
    One of the reasons people were excited about Nokia going with WP was their camera pedigree. The N8 is still king of camera phones, yet their WP offerings are not competitive even with HTC that has been producing crap cameras for years and have only recently made an effort. Really should have had this sorted out of the gate, especially since the same issue affected the 800, because knowing at&t there wont be any updates to fix this for months.
    This, a thousand times this. That's one of the reasons I was so excited when it was announced that Nokia would begin using the Windows Phone ecosystem. Instead, now I feel like a chump for falling for the marketing hype.

    It is interesting to note, though, that during a recent WPCentral podcast, Jay Bennett mentioned that Nokia's cameras aren't seen as anything special. I don't have the exact podcast queued up but it was a month or so ago.
    04-03-2012 04:31 PM
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