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  1. RiseAgainst94's Avatar
    04-03-2012 08:07 PM
  2. RiseAgainst94's Avatar
    Beaming review besides camera and call quality though apparently the photo quality is better than Focus S and Droid Razr!!!
    04-03-2012 08:16 PM
  3. jawesome's Avatar
    Can't wait for that 900 vs TII review.
    04-03-2012 08:23 PM
  4. bobsentell's Avatar
    Engadget Review

    In Summary: *flips device over and notices a lack of a bitten fruit* Piece of crap.

    Their biggest gripe is the screen. Which, oddly enough, WPCentral loves.
    04-03-2012 08:29 PM
  5. bobsentell's Avatar
    The Verge Review

    In Summary: Everything is great about this phone except the camera, apps, ecosystem, OS, and specs. Non-nerds will love it, but I'm squarely in the Android camp.
    Last edited by bobsentell; 04-03-2012 at 08:37 PM.
    04-03-2012 08:31 PM
  6. bobsentell's Avatar
    It would appear there is no general consensus. What one reviewer loves, another hates. Where one reviewer thinks Nokia took shortcuts, another loves the attention to detail.

    If you read through all of the reviews and catalog the pros and cons, you will have both the best phone you ever put your hands on or a crime against humanity.
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    04-03-2012 08:36 PM
  7. tbeagl's Avatar
    The Verge Review

    In Summary: Everything is great about this phone except the camera, apps, ecosystem, OS, and specs. Non-nerds will love it, but I'm squarely in the Android camp.
    that reviewer is getting alot of **** because he's a known windows hater and called it poison, lol
    04-03-2012 08:51 PM
  8. RiseAgainst94's Avatar
    It would appear there is no general consensus. What one reviewer loves, another hates. Where one reviewer thinks Nokia took shortcuts, another loves the attention to detail.

    If you read through all of the reviews and catalog the pros and cons, you will have both the best phone you ever put your hands on or a crime against humanity.
    I couldn't have said it any better. These reviews are so spread out there is no way in telling whether this device is good or not.

    General trends:
    good display
    decent battery life
    great design
    bad camera
    lacks apps
    Windows Phone is behind the game

    Overall score about a 7.8 so pretty solid. The Verge review was very harsh and engadgets was as well.
    04-03-2012 08:55 PM
  9. krayziehustler's Avatar
    The Verge Review

    In Summary: Everything is great about this phone except the camera, apps, ecosystem, OS, and specs. Non-nerds will love it, but I'm squarely in the Android camp.
    the worse review yet. Not due to score but because it was the most biased one yet... Like he says that text loosk bad to his eyes!!?? really?

    he also complains saying that the OS is clunky but doesn't say why..smh
    04-03-2012 08:55 PM
  10. RiseAgainst94's Avatar
    The Verge review starts off with saying the Lumia 900 would be the most important review of this year and then goes on to say "I fee like I'm reviewing Windows 7.5 software again" WTF that's a terrible review!
    04-03-2012 09:16 PM
  11. jd914's Avatar
    that reviewer is getting alot of **** because he's a known windows hater and called it poison, lol
    Anyone that knows Joshua Topolsky they know that he is clearly an iPhone fanboy. That "review" from the Verge is clearly a biased one. Actually, anything on the Verge that isn't iOS usually gets bashed.
    04-03-2012 09:22 PM
  12. jmerrey's Avatar
    Anyone that knows Joshua Topolsky they know that he is clearly an iPhone fanboy. That "review" from the Verge is clearly a biased one. Actually, anything on the Verge that isn't iOS usually gets bashed.
    actually when it comes to mobile he's a big android guy
    04-03-2012 09:26 PM
  13. bobsentell's Avatar
    actually when it comes to mobile he's a big android guy
    I think he's more an anti-Microsoft guy. His review of the TouchPad wasn't this harsh.

    Edit: Crap, I just realized he didn't review it himself. That must be why it is actually a good read.
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    04-03-2012 09:29 PM
  14. Winterfang's Avatar
    The bad camera is the thing that hurts me the most. I'm not going to upgrade to this phone after all.
    04-03-2012 09:44 PM
  15. RiseAgainst94's Avatar
    Well it is also stated that it takes pictures almost as good as the Iphone 4s but only in the correct lighting.


    My verdict: Not worth waiting the extra months after the Focus S's release, but still a good enough phone for my upgrade.

    It seems a lot of reviewers complain about Windows 7.5, I guess i'm having confidence issues in whether or not this is the right OS for me. I like how it feels....
    04-03-2012 09:46 PM
  16. Winterfang's Avatar
    The Verge Review

    In Summary: Everything is great about this phone except the camera, apps, ecosystem, OS, and specs. Non-nerds will love it, but I'm squarely in the Android camp.
    "I think is time to stop giving Windows Phones a break"

    Damn those are strong words but he is right. Hopefully those harsh reviews let Microsoft wake up and work hard on making this platform work. This can't be another webOS.
    04-03-2012 09:53 PM
  17. peestandingup's Avatar
    Anyone that knows Joshua Topolsky they know that he is clearly an iPhone fanboy. That "review" from the Verge is clearly a biased one. Actually, anything on the Verge that isn't iOS usually gets bashed.
    He's actually been using a google nexus device exclusively for a while, so, no. Josh is actually a pretty fair guy.
    04-03-2012 10:23 PM
  18. apoc527's Avatar
    I'd have to disagree that Josh was fair to the ecosystem. His review read like a Fandroid's rant against all things Microsoft.

    Regardless, most of these sites cater to technophiles who click refresh on tech blogs all day to see if anything new has happened (not that I know anyone like that... ;-) ). No normal consumer is going to check out The Verge's review, just as no normal consumer even knows that Engadget or WPCentral exist!
    04-03-2012 11:55 PM
  19. tbeagl's Avatar
    He's actually been using a google nexus device exclusively for a while, so, no. Josh is actually a pretty fair guy.
    So, Joshua Topolsky thinks using Windows OS is like poison, does anyone actually enjoy using their PC OS? | The Verge Forums
    04-04-2012 12:03 AM
  20. squire777's Avatar
    He's actually been using a google nexus device exclusively for a while, so, no. Josh is actually a pretty fair guy.

    Sorry but Josh is the furthest thing from being fair. He only recently started plugging Android because his Apple bias was becoming too hard to hide with all the good Android devices coming out. He was getting trashed and probably just claims to use an Android device to keep readers on his site.
    04-04-2012 12:16 AM
  21. tekhna's Avatar
    He's actually been using a google nexus device exclusively for a while, so, no. Josh is actually a pretty fair guy.
    I thought it was a pretty fair review. He listed the things he liked, the things he didn't he supported. WP7 still has holes. The hardware is dangerously dated, but doesn't matter, for the moment. But there's a lot to love about this phone.

    My real question is the quality of the camera. No one seems to agree on it.
    Last edited by tekhna; 04-04-2012 at 12:35 AM.
    04-04-2012 12:26 AM
  22. fogel35's Avatar
    I thought it was a pretty fair review. He listed the things he liked, the things he didn't he supported all the parts of his review. WP7 still has holes. The hardware is dangerously dated, but doesn't matter, for the moment. But there's a lot to love about this phone.

    My real question is the quality of the camera. No one seems to agree on it.
    I think the varying reviews of the camera is based upon the user. Some people just can't take good shots. My wife swears up and down I cannot take a decent picture. She on the other hand takes pretty decent shots with just about any camera. Probably helps that she worked in camera store.
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    04-04-2012 12:33 AM
  23. cdook's Avatar
    The photos that were taken in the WPCentral review look awesome. The photos are detailed and crisp. TheVerge photos don't look as good though. User error?

    There's a TON of comments for ThrVerge review. I'm curious if that's the norm for the site or people aren't happy with the review.
    04-04-2012 12:38 AM
  24. peestandingup's Avatar
    I think his review was a fair assessment in the current smartphone climate. I mean, OK, so even if you guys are correct & he IS an Apple fanboy & he's just been using an Android device for months to simply not look like such a hater of everything non-Apple (which isn't likely). Is there anything he said that wasn't truthful?

    Yes, the camera by most accounts is mediocre. Not terrible, but certainly not up to par with the other flagship devices. Even lagging behind some mid range phones.

    And apps? Well, where are they?? I kinda agree with him that the time for giving WP a pass on a lot of this stuff is coming to an end. This was their shining moment. And while its a great device, there's some things that are really turn offs (like the camera, the app situation & the older hardware not being really future proofed). These are things no one can deny (unless you're just hardcore team WP no matter what & never use anything else).

    Anyways, a 7 is a very respectable score. I know a lot of people wanted it to blow everyone outta the water, but c mon. Did you really expect that at this point?? Its a review of the entire experience as a whole, ecosystem & all (not just looks & design). I think it was fair & I share his gripes.
    04-04-2012 12:48 AM
  25. tbeagl's Avatar
    The photos that were taken in the WPCentral review look awesome. The photos are detailed and crisp. TheVerge photos don't look as good though. User error?

    There's a TON of comments for ThrVerge review. I'm curious if that's the norm for the site or people aren't happy with the review.
    Alot of people dislike the review
    I think his review was a fair assessment in the current smartphone climate. I mean, OK, so even if you guys are correct & he IS an Apple fanboy & he's just been using an Android device for months to simply not look like such a hater of everything non-Apple (which isn't likely). Is there anything he said that wasn't truthful?

    Yes, the camera by most accounts is mediocre. Not terrible, but certainly not up to par with the other flagship devices. Even lagging behind some mid range phones.

    And apps? Well, where are they?? I kinda agree with him that the time for giving WP a pass on a lot of this stuff is coming to an end. This was their shining moment. And while its a great device, there's some things that are really turn offs (like the camera, the app situation & the older hardware not being really future proofed). These are things no one can deny (unless you're just hardcore team WP no matter what & never use anything else).

    Anyways, a 7 is a very respectable score. I know a lot of people wanted it to blow everyone outta the water, but c mon. Did you really expect that at this point?? Its a review of the entire experience as a whole, ecosystem & all (not just looks & design). I think it was fair & I share his gripes.
    every other review on the web seem to disagree even Gizmodo.
    04-04-2012 12:51 AM
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