05-01-2012 02:16 PM
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  1. loribinca's Avatar
    You know i got this Nokia Lumia 900… Nice phone so far but im very disappointed with Microsoft because one would expect for them to throw everything behind the platform(like Google does) but yet they don’t… How can third parties support a platform that even their creator is lacking to support?
    For example:
    No Live Mesh Client
    No Remote Desktop Client FROM MICROSOFT <—- This should be included BY DEFAULT on the OS!!!

    the camera compared to the E4GT is bad... also mine has a nasty sound when it vibrates...

    is going back to AT&T shelves….:@
    why would you want to RDP on such a small screen ? if thats your critera, then why not get a new iPad and use that instead?

    I do hope they (MS) put out a photosynth app though. But I am sure the apps will come in time as the platform and ecosystem gains more traction.
    04-18-2012 05:45 PM
  2. HillBillJr's Avatar
    Yeaahhh. The consumers who have what, 4.5% if the market? Oh wait is now 3.5% of the market. Yeah anecdotal praise means **** to me. The UI while nice at first is now tiresome to me. Beyond the first couple layers its all rectangle shapes with zero gradient layers or any sophisticated designs. It's as if a computer engineer coded it in 1980s design. puhlezze.
    That is why we have choices. If square tiles are not for you, please move on. Seems like your 4 posts so far have the same agenda that we call all see through. Do you really own a Nokia 900 or you just added it to your list just to look legitimate?
    04-18-2012 06:04 PM
  3. trandz's Avatar
    talking about the one x. I traded it for this phone with no regrets. Quad core dual core, every Android is the same to me. They still aren't stable and still force close 10 times a day. Sense crashes all the time due to being a memory hog. Amazing how the lumia with a single core is 20 times smoother and stable then my quad core one x ever was or will be.
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    04-18-2012 06:10 PM
  4. swc_ant's Avatar
    that option is actually turned off for me....still can't get the thing to reliably turn on with that button.
    Try this: Put the phone flat on the table, and pinch it with your right hand's thumb and index finger, with the index finger on the camera button. make sure to press the 2-stage button all the way down, and have nothing covering the proximity sensor. (try with different settings).

    If this doesn't work still, you might have a defective unit.

    Unless it's a software defect in the 900.

    I don't have an 900 (yet) so that's all I can offer unless someone else can confirm.
    04-18-2012 06:28 PM
  5. Mengels7's Avatar
    Well, I give up. I hope the platform turns into something amazing but it has far too many drawbacks and I'm returning it today.

    It's the music player that's really driving me to return it. I use my phone as my primary source of music in the car and away from home and I rely heavily on rating and playcount to keep my music in order. (Over 80 gigs from a ton of different artists.) Zune's heart system is just stupid.
    04-18-2012 06:40 PM
  6. socialcarpet's Avatar
    I have a Titan and an iPhone 4S and their displays attract just as much fingerprints so I don't know how you assume there are other device displays that attract less finger prints. "Oleophobic coating" is just a marketing ploy which offers absolutely nothing.

    Glass is glass no matter how you put it. When you come up with a solution for a display to attract no finger prints give Nokia a call, I'm sure you'll make a killing with your revolutionary discovery.
    Actually, no, it's not a marketing ploy that offers absolutely nothing.

    It's actually a polymer the bond to the glass which repels skin oils. It's not 100% effective of course, but it does work to make the screen have LESS oily smears and fingerprints.

    If you want to read more about it:

    Giz Bill Nye Explains: The iPhone 3GS's Oleophobic Screen

    Honestly I was thinking the Lumia might have something similar. There is definitely a difference between the surface of it's glass and the Android I used to have. My Lumia does not get smeared with fingerprints nearly as easily, and when it does get them a quick wipe gets them off, whereas my cheaper Android took more work.

    I know they both have Gorilla Glass, so that's not it. Could be a difference in how the glass is finished, or possibly Nokia applies a similar coating to what Apple uses. There is absolutely a noticeable difference between different phones though.
    04-18-2012 06:48 PM
  7. LikeAChameleon's Avatar
    I did what you are considering to do. I sold my focus s to get lumia 900 off contract...

    Without a doubt, the camera on the focus S is significantly better than the lumia 900 camera. It is not even close. The ability to focus and capturing a shot even if there was slight movement is very good. I was able to capture nice shots in motion while in hawaii on a train, it was impressive.

    The slightest movement on the 900, it will cause a blur on the object you are focusing on. You really need to be steady and use the auto focus whereas i didnt really have to do that with the focus S...

    Then there is the issue with low lighted areas or indoors which would result in grainy looking pictures with a lot of noise. The autofix makes it lighter, but you can see the noise stand out.

    If the camera is important, keep the focus S and wait till apollo comes out. Samsung will come out with a wp8 phone and probably will have a better camera than the focus S. I was impressed by the focus S camera, it was my main camera during my vacationing instead of my digi camera.

    Everything else, i like the 900. The build, the feel, the screen, smoothness...

    Only other issue i have with 900 is the smudgness you get on the screen and no replaceable battery.
    Thanks for the response, dkp23! I've definitely been considering the Lumia ever since it was announced. I'm really happy with the Focus S, but I think it's the Lumia's bold design in addition to the great Nokia services that have me considering making a change. I had thought Carl Zeiss optics would be spectacular as well, but perhaps not as much as I thought.

    I have a couple of other questions regarding the differences and making the change, but not sure if it's appropriate to post here. I'll PM you.
    04-18-2012 06:49 PM
  8. socialcarpet's Avatar
    Yeaahhh. The consumers who have what, 4.5% if the market? Oh wait is now 3.5% of the market. Yeah anecdotal praise means **** to me. The UI while nice at first is now tiresome to me. Beyond the first couple layers its all rectangle shapes with zero gradient layers or any sophisticated designs. It's as if a computer engineer coded it in 1980s design. puhlezze.
    Maybe Google and the Android OEMs should try and see if they can make a phone UI that doesn't stutter, jitter and stall instead of worrying about gradient layers and translucency.

    Just a thought.

    Form is supposed to follow function. Any designer with real talent and taste understands this, whether it's an engineer and architect or a developer. It is a principle that takes a back seat to window dressing and flashy bullish*t in the Android world though with it's tacky random array of stupid OEM skins like Sense and MotoBlur and TouchJizz. All lipstick on a pig if you ask me.

    That's just the beginning of what's makes Android unappealing to me, I guess it's nice that at least Google offers one Nexus phone a year that isn't caked in crap out of the box. It's a start, but the rest of Android still sucks.
    04-18-2012 07:13 PM
  9. socialcarpet's Avatar
    why would I not keep the phone. Its awesome. The camera takes decent enough pictures. combine it with something like fhotoroom and you can get some really good images out of it.
    Yeah but there's no Angry Birds Space or 35 indicator icons across the top of the screen. Windows Phone SUCKS! :lol:
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    04-18-2012 07:16 PM
  10. AndreaCristiano's Avatar
    Yeaahhh. The consumers who have what, 4.5% if the market? Oh wait is now 3.5% of the market. Yeah anecdotal praise means **** to me. The UI while nice at first is now tiresome to me. Beyond the first couple layers its all rectangle shapes with zero gradient layers or any sophisticated designs. It's as if a computer engineer coded it in 1980s design. puhlezze.
    seriously could you be a bigger google bangin spec *****?? You dont like the phone return it and delete your account but for all that is holy shut the F up and go away already. I don't even believe you have the phone, you have all of 5 posts all bashing the phone, windows phone etc etc your a troll living in larry paiges basement
    04-18-2012 07:17 PM
  11. AndreaCristiano's Avatar
    ps this phone is so bad ....lol thats why its second in phonedogs top phones

    Nokia Lumia 900 second in PhoneDog&rsquo;s Smartphone&rsquo;s ranking | WMPoweruser
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    04-18-2012 07:23 PM
  12. PTZ's Avatar
    My son bought one the first day. He has given the Nokia a workout and really likes it. I doubt he has even entertained the thought of returning it, he likes it so much. He has gotten several of his friends interested in getting one too. Just thought I would report a happy owner at my house. He likes the camera?
    04-18-2012 08:34 PM
  13. redbluff's Avatar
    Returned mine today. It was too big and heavy. Poor camera. Going back to Focus Flash but staying with WP7.

    Sent from my SGH-i677 using Board Express
    04-18-2012 08:45 PM
  14. AndreaCristiano's Avatar
    Returned mine today. It was too big and heavy. Poor camera. Going back to Focus Flash but staying with WP7.

    Sent from my SGH-i677 using Board Express
    not trying to sound like a jerk but seriously? Did you not know the size and weight of the phone when you bought/ordered it?
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    04-18-2012 08:57 PM
  15. nokia4life's Avatar
    i have to agree the size thing has been on the radar since CES and MWC.
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    04-18-2012 09:06 PM
  16. jsntrenkelr's Avatar
    I like the size just picked one up. Was using the lumia 800 for the last couple days. I like the larger size, now I have to put the 800 on craigslist.

    Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
    04-18-2012 09:11 PM
  17. AndreaCristiano's Avatar
    i have to agree the size thing has been on the radar since CES and MWC.
    its like some of these people, were blind or didnt do any research at all before purchasing the phone, or OS switch. WTF people do you expet everything handed to you by salesmen do some damn research!!! Is this how you buy cars or homes?? No wonder our country is in the its in!
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    04-18-2012 09:13 PM
  18. crash_pr's Avatar
    why would you want to RDP on such a small screen ? if thats your critera, then why not get a new iPad and use that instead?

    I do hope they (MS) put out a photosynth app though. But I am sure the apps will come in time as the platform and ecosystem gains more traction.
    Well that's the problem Microsoft has a lot of services but not many of them has an app for wp7.. They should be the first throwing everything at the platform and 3rd parties will follow. Google does this already and apple although they don't have many services as MS and google does it too. Microsoft is being lazy...

    As for an rdp client I use it to do simple tasks such as reseting an account or verify something quick while not in the office and this screen will work just fine! If you don't have a use for it that's you I know I do and that's something MS need to work with to get the platform running and not die like WebOS did... If this OS is going to grow in to tablets it will need an rdp client and alike apps
    04-18-2012 09:31 PM
  19. MadSci2's Avatar
    No plans to go back. Anyone looking to buy a well loved Titan?
    I'll be keeping my Ace, even with the baby rattler of a vibrator and camera that wasn't much of a step up from the Titan. The slightly smaller screen is more than made up for by being much better in quality - easier on my tired old eyes. And the unit seems a tad faster. Its a keeper until a higher rez screen and multi-core CPU are available. Then it will be off to claim my discounted upgrade on the next best thing! ;-)

    Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
    04-18-2012 10:12 PM
  20. markwilk's Avatar
    I'm also planning on returning it, mostly because of size and weight. After using a Focus (original) for the past 15 months (and a 3GS 18 months before that), the 900 feels like an anvil.

    I made _several_ trips to the AT&T store before I purchased the phone. I held it in my hand. I walked around the store with it. I sat it side by side with my Focus. I even asked the associate if I could put it in my pants pocket to see how the size/weight felt. It all seemed fine and acceptable...until I took it home and started using it all day, every day.

    I have average hands; and as a frequent one-handed phone user, I find it difficult to keep a grip on this thing. Honestly, I don't know how mere mortals can manage with these phones as they get larger and larger. The size, combined with the super smooth polycarbonate body, means that this phone WILL be dropped. Many times.

    While the squared corners may be a "bold" design, one of these days they are going to tear through my pocket. Also, these corners can do a number on the palm of your hand, if you talk on the phone for any length of time.

    I've also come to feel that larger screens are wasted space on these WP7 devices. Tiles that seemed reasonably sized on the 3.7" Focus screen seem clownishly huge on this device. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the Metro UI...but oversized text on a phone like this is downright oppressive.

    The downside to all this is that if I want a WP7 device with any sort of decent hardware or storage (more than 8GB), I have to go with a larger device. This may push me from the platform entirely (and back to an iPhone).
    04-18-2012 10:50 PM
  21. DarthJeter's Avatar
    My company was paying for my last phone, a Samsung Focus. Recently, the company policy changed to a BYOD model (bring your own device), where they reimburse you for a portion of your cell phone bill, but you can use whatever phone you want. I liked the 900 from when they first announced it, so I decided to buy it. I either had the option of sticking with the Focus and letting my company pay for everything completely, or shell out the money for the new phone and pay a small portion of the bill.

    After a few days with the phone, I've decided to definitely stick with the Lumia and hand in the Focus.

    I did end up buying a Zagg Invisible Shield for the phone and it's been the best thing ever. The full body protection is great, and it makes the phone less slippery and more stable in my hand, yet still showing off the beautiful cyan.
    04-19-2012 12:02 AM
  22. AndreaCristiano's Avatar
    Good decision Darth

    Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
    04-19-2012 12:15 AM
  23. Tersanyus's Avatar
    I'll be keeping mine. This is my first Windows Phone. I've had all iPhones except the very first one. My account with AT&T has 3 lines. Only two are really in use. The 3rd line was the line I'd use every other year to get the latest and greatest iPhone.

    My main line is a Samsung Galaxy Note. That's a phone with a large 5.3" screen. Second line is an iPhone 4S. That used to be my primary phone but that one is now with my mother.

    This 3rd line was eligible for an upgrade at the first of April. I was going to leave it alone will the next iPhone just to see what it was going to be. I decided I was done with iPhone despite all the money had tied up to iTunes. I definitely had no need for another Android.

    Had been reading about this Lumia 900. I never really kept up with Windows Phone news but decided to read the reviews. Mostly because I have not seen a Nokia phone since like 2007.

    So I decided to get the Lumia 900. Couple AT&T stores around me did not have it available. Checked Best Buy and only two out of about 15 in a 100 mile radius had it. Bought it online then picked it up in the store.

    First trouble was they did not have LTE sim cards. Their system would not let the older 3G cards be used. What they ended up doing was taking a sim card from a brand new iPhone 4S and using that to activate my 900. That worked.

    An hour after I activated the 900 it told me of the software update. I had purposely not upgraded it for a few more hours. I never lost data connection. So I downloaded Zune and did the update.

    I have to say that Windows Phone seems more "fluid" to me than iOS and Android. These live tiles make the phone seem more alive than widgets on Android. And of course there's nothing really like that at all on iOS.

    To me iOS phones have become, well to me at least, boring. Android is good for hacking and customizing (Note has unofficial Android 4.0.3 on it).

    Now if my Note and the 900 used the same sized sim card I could much more easily move sims between them. That would let me use my primary number in the 900 to see how it would work for me on a daily basis.

    So to summarize, I really like Windows Phone and the Lumia 900. Windows 8 will be using these tiles so at least with that I'll be used to it.

    I don't care much about the camera. The only real gripes I have is I wish the network signal strength indicator stayed in the status bar all the time. I'd like it to show LTE all the time. Also wish the tiles were taking all the screen. Seems a bit of a waste to have all that black around the right and top.
    04-19-2012 09:32 AM
  24. rayj2B's Avatar
    This is my first WP and have to say I'm impressed with OS. I switched from a iPhone4 with ATT but still have the iPhone4s with Verizon. I love both these phones and only got the 900 as it has 4G LTE which I hope to see soon in my area. I've had Android phones and they didn't measure up to the 900 so far as I just got the 900 yesterday. After two years with the OG Droid with Verizon tried the Razr and Galaxy Nexus and just couldn't work with them for two years. So far the 900 has done everything that I do on the iPhone4s and most of the apps are available on the 900 too. As far as the camera I didn't buy this for the camera but for 4g LTE service so it doesn't matter if they update it. The price is also right at 99.99 and Nokia refunding 100 to my ATT account makes this a great upgrade phone which I'll give it at least 30 days to pass muster or it goes back to the store.
    Hoping this phone works out as advertised.
    04-19-2012 11:55 AM
  25. properbostonian's Avatar
    No chance I am returning the Lumia 900. Love the OS and the phone itself is gorgeous. Not too heavy, not too light, the screen is the perfect size and looks amazing, it takes great pictures, video is top notch, and phone call quality is exceptional.

    In fact, I think it's the...Best.Phone.Ever.
    04-19-2012 12:02 PM
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