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06-29-2012 02:28 PM
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  1. Big Supes's Avatar
    I have had mine for just about 30 days.
    Curious; where you aware of Windows Phone 8's arrival in October and the likelihood of single core, lower-spec'd devices (such as the L900) not being fully upgraded? People have been saying for months that the likely scenario will be current devices will receive a subset of Wp8; 7.8.

    I nearly bought a L900, but opted to wait it out with my old and tired HD7. Trust me, I'd happily take on a L900 (at the right price) until the second phase Wp8 devices are released around March next year. I'm still considering it now and secretly hope people like yourself will drive the price tag down. Ebay is my friend. :)

    I am very upset as I know Nokia had to know this was going to happen. I am not mad at AT&T however I am going to take this phone back and complain. AT&T said this was the new flagship phone but now it is Legacy. This is a slap to the face from MS.

    I hope I can undo my upgrade and wait for the true WP8
    First of all - MS gave us a glimpse into the future. Not the present; the L900 is still one of the best Windows Phone out there. Further more, it will be updated to Wp7.8 and Nokia have stated they intend to continue further updates for the current Lumia models.

    I can understand some of the 'frustration' people are having - to an extent. But. Honestly? The platform is moving forward and that means current devices can't magically change their specs.

    If you want to be angry. Direct it towards the sales rep who didn't inform you about Wp8 (and what that means to current WPs). And, if you already knew about the scenario... well, shame on you if you're throwing your toys/Lumias out of the pram.
    06-21-2012 05:00 AM
  2. Oldmajor's Avatar
    I have had mine for just about 30 days. I am very upset as I know Nokia had to know this was going to happen. I am not mad at AT&T however I am going to take this phone back and complain. AT&T said this was the new flagship phone but now it is Legacy. This is a slap to the face from MS.

    I hope I can undo my upgrade and wait for the true WP8
    Oh really? Since this is a legacy device what Windows Phone 8 device is better than the Lumia 900? Is it the HTC Vapor, Nokia 1000, Samsung Super Focus??? Seriously people you bought a piece of technology and just like a computer/graphics card/TV/whatever it will be outdated in probably less than a year.

    For those of you who are just in dismay, please tell me what features will you truly miss out on? I for one wouldn't even be able to use NFC because my only financial institution is a credit union with no WP app. The most graphics intensive game i play is Civilization followe dby things like Wordament, Spell It, Wheel of Wealth etc. What I do use faithfully are my email apps, Office, and Zune, and Netflix.

    So if by some stroke of magic when Windows 7.8 comes around if I could my Credit Union to come out with an app, Uber to come out with app and HBOGo to bring their app to Windows phone my Lumia 900 would be even more amazing! As a developer myself I still have to make sur emy applications run on XP because its still the most widely used OS by my clients so dont think app development will end there are hundreds of thousands of gen 1 and 2 devices out there versus 0 Gen 3.

    So again, I ask, for those so enraged please tell us all the things you wont be able to do that will truly effect you?
    06-21-2012 07:41 AM
  3. leosoybean's Avatar
    Oh really? Since this is a legacy device what Windows Phone 8 device is better than the Lumia 900? Is it the HTC Vapor, Nokia 1000, Samsung Super Focus??? Seriously people you bought a piece of technology and just like a computer/graphics card/TV/whatever it will be outdated in probably less than a year.

    For those of you who are just in dismay, please tell me what features will you truly miss out on? I for one wouldn't even be able to use NFC because my only financial institution is a credit union with no WP app. The most graphics intensive game i play is Civilization followe dby things like Wordament, Spell It, Wheel of Wealth etc. What I do use faithfully are my email apps, Office, and Zune, and Netflix.

    So if by some stroke of magic when Windows 7.8 comes around if I could my Credit Union to come out with an app, Uber to come out with app and HBOGo to bring their app to Windows phone my Lumia 900 would be even more amazing! As a developer myself I still have to make sur emy applications run on XP because its still the most widely used OS by my clients so dont think app development will end there are hundreds of thousands of gen 1 and 2 devices out there versus 0 Gen 3.

    So again, I ask, for those so enraged please tell us all the things you wont be able to do that will truly effect you?
    True multi-tasking would have been lovely. I could be wrong but i think that is WP8 only.
    06-21-2012 08:44 AM
  4. ftap's Avatar
    Oh really? Since this is a legacy device what Windows Phone 8 device is better than the Lumia 900? Is it the HTC Vapor, Nokia 1000, Samsung Super Focus??? Seriously people you bought a piece of technology and just like a computer/graphics card/TV/whatever it will be outdated in probably less than a year.

    For those of you who are just in dismay, please tell me what features will you truly miss out on? I for one wouldn't even be able to use NFC because my only financial institution is a credit union with no WP app. The most graphics intensive game i play is Civilization followe dby things like Wordament, Spell It, Wheel of Wealth etc. What I do use faithfully are my email apps, Office, and Zune, and Netflix.

    So if by some stroke of magic when Windows 7.8 comes around if I could my Credit Union to come out with an app, Uber to come out with app and HBOGo to bring their app to Windows phone my Lumia 900 would be even more amazing! As a developer myself I still have to make sur emy applications run on XP because its still the most widely used OS by my clients so dont think app development will end there are hundreds of thousands of gen 1 and 2 devices out there versus 0 Gen 3.

    So again, I ask, for those so enraged please tell us all the things you wont be able to do that will truly effect you?
    Too many assumptions. When iOS4 was released. Those stuck on iOS3 (iphone 2007) could not download basic kiddie games (required little graphics power) cause those games required iOS4. Developers just abandon the old iOS.

    Same thing with Android 4.0. Those stuck on 2.3 Gingerbread cannot download Chrome for Android. That browser is awesome.

    There is no guarantee apps like Pandora, HBO to go, WatchEspn (the real espn streaming app) will be compatible with Windows 7.8.

    And that's why people are upset.

    If app is made exclusively for Windows 8, than windows 7/7.5 will be left out in the cold like the above mentioned apps for iPhone and Android I mentioned.
    06-21-2012 08:44 AM
  5. thebizz's Avatar
    WP7.8 is THE EXACT SAME THING as WP8 minus features specifically made for new hardware. Apps written SPECIFICALLY made for these new hardware features (dual-core, nfc for example) won't be able to run on the Lumia 900.

    Now, people are so quick to dismiss any new development. Would you want to use an app developed around NFC if you don't have the chip in your phone? I didn't think so. Would you want to run a game needing a dual core on your Lumia 900 and get a laggy and choppy experience? I didn't think so.

    Get real people.
    Funny you say that because 7.8 is just 7.5 with a new launcher Windows phone 8 is totally different it contains a different kernel.the reason I didn't buy a lumia 900 was because I was not sursurvive if it would if it would get the next update.looks like I made a good choice
    06-21-2012 08:54 AM
  6. bigkevbosky's Avatar
    Too many assumptions. When iOS4 was released. Those stuck on iOS3 (iphone 2007) could not download basic kiddie games (required little graphics power) cause those games required iOS4. Developers just abandon the old iOS.

    Same thing with Android 4.0. Those stuck on 2.3 Gingerbread cannot download Chrome for Android. That browser is awesome.

    There is no guarantee apps like Pandora, HBO to go, WatchEspn (the real espn streaming app) will be compatible with Windows 7.8.

    And that's why people are upset.

    If app is made exclusively for Windows 8, than windows 7/7.5 will be left out in the cold like the above mentioned apps for iPhone and Android I mentioned.
    I find it so ironic how Lumia owners, who were BRAGGING about all the exclusive apps they got on their phones, are now the biggest COMPLAINERS about apps not coming to their phone.

    I'm starting to see a trend among some Lumia owners - I see NO complaints from the Focus or Quantum or Venue Pro people.
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    06-21-2012 09:24 AM
  7. Sridhar V's Avatar
    Does anybody know if the sharing of native APIs etc, where WP8 and Win8 will be kinda seamless in nature, coming to WP7.8? The reason I am asking is bcos there is a lot of traction in the Win8 marketplace and if porting those to WP8 is easy then there may be a lot of great stuff coming down the pike for WP8. If WP7.8 is not on that wagon then........... well anyways lets see what happens..but hopefully we devs will continue to build apps for both platforms/cores (saying cores and apps in a single sentence has a special zing :D)
    06-21-2012 09:35 AM
  8. shamelin73's Avatar
    Not really worried just disappointed and what happens to the app development

    Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
    06-21-2012 11:49 AM
  9. gahbmwm5's Avatar
    Windows Phone7.8!

    The new Start screen is so useful and emblematic of what Windows Phone is about that we want everybody to enjoy it. So well be delivering it to existing phones as a software update sometime after Window Phone 8 is released. Let me repeat: If you currently own a Windows Phone 7.5 handset, Microsoft is planning to release an update with the new Windows Phone 8 Start screen. Were calling it Windows Phone 7.8.

    Time frame of this update...
    06-21-2012 11:55 AM
  10. dkp23's Avatar
    Ill buy your phone for $20...
    06-21-2012 12:05 PM
  11. Oldmajor's Avatar
    Too many assumptions. When iOS4 was released. Those stuck on iOS3 (iphone 2007) could not download basic kiddie games (required little graphics power) cause those games required iOS4. Developers just abandon the old iOS.

    Same thing with Android 4.0. Those stuck on 2.3 Gingerbread cannot download Chrome for Android. That browser is awesome.

    There is no guarantee apps like Pandora, HBO to go, WatchEspn (the real espn streaming app) will be compatible with Windows 7.8.

    And that's why people are upset.

    If app is made exclusively for Windows 8, than windows 7/7.5 will be left out in the cold like the above mentioned apps for iPhone and Android I mentioned.
    True enough those are assumptions I made. But its based on the fact that we know Windows Phones are NOT selling like iPhones (or hotcakes!). The best selling device has probably been the nokia line. Since the Nokia line is very new its safe to assume many people are locked in contracts. In fact based on Im a WP7, the Lumia 800 is the top Windows phone (and that doesnt even have a ffc).

    Lastly Nokia has done nothing but support their Windows Phone products, they have been responsive, issued quick fixes, released nice exclusive apps and even cash rebates to keep customers happy. Why do you think they would throw away all of the work they put into customer goodwill so quickly? Just like you invested in the Lumia so did they, so they need to continue to do the right thing and I believe they will based on their past actions.
    06-21-2012 01:21 PM
  12. algs26's Avatar
    The thing is, Nokia's financially not in great shape right now. I think they've been moved to junk bond status. They literally can't afford to have people wait for WP8. Sales of (profitable?) symbian phones have dropped precipitously since the announcement of the WP OS realignment.

    If Nokia could have built phones with WP8 HW but still running WP7 (unoptimized), then perhaps this could have been avoided. But I'm not sure when the Qualcomm WP8 processor was made available. I assume it's in the same family as the HTC One X and that hasn't been out that long.

    How fast will developers drop WP7 compatibility is what I'm wondering. Surely they're not going to ignore the installed user base until WP8 numbers has crossed some kind of critical mass.

    RIM must be in the same position with BB10.
    Last edited by algs26; 06-21-2012 at 11:58 PM. Reason: grammar
    06-21-2012 02:02 PM
  13. alpinestars1z's Avatar
    True multi-tasking would have been lovely. I could be wrong but i think that is WP8 only.
    What true multi-tasking? All I saw was them adding support for background VoIP and background navigation.
    06-21-2012 10:10 PM
  14. Quantify's Avatar
    What true multi-tasking? All I saw was them adding support for background VoIP and background navigation.
    Yeah, but those are big. I really miss Skype in the background and having nav in the background while I make a phone call. Hoped WP8 would fix that for me...but it won't. Using my gnex today because when I'm traveling, Google beats Bing/ Nokia.

    Trying to decide if I'll go back to my l900when I get home.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    06-21-2012 11:03 PM
  15. tenoclock's Avatar
    Too many assumptions. When iOS4 was released. Those stuck on iOS3 (iphone 2007) could not download basic kiddie games (required little graphics power) cause those games required iOS4. Developers just abandon the old iOS.

    Same thing with Android 4.0. Those stuck on 2.3 Gingerbread cannot download Chrome for Android. That browser is awesome.

    There is no guarantee apps like Pandora, HBO to go, WatchEspn (the real espn streaming app) will be compatible with Windows 7.8.

    And that's why people are upset.

    If app is made exclusively for Windows 8, than windows 7/7.5 will be left out in the cold like the above mentioned apps for iPhone and Android I mentioned.
    amen brother. These people just don't see it. They either use something else from years ago, didn't pay for the phone 2 months ago (Titan II and Lumia) or just living in their own world believing what Nokia is saying.

    Half of the members on this forum don't realize if Nokia and Microsoft had let the consumer know that they are leaving the platforms and dropping hardware support for the current gen, it could save many of us money in the long run. When people start complaining that their favorite app or the cool new app doesn't support WP7.8, Nokia could just come out and say "but we gave you the camera app, music app, and some maps"
    YingTK and pjs37 like this.
    06-21-2012 11:14 PM
  16. tenoclock's Avatar
    I find it so ironic how Lumia owners, who were BRAGGING about all the exclusive apps they got on their phones, are now the biggest COMPLAINERS about apps not coming to their phone.

    I'm starting to see a trend among some Lumia owners - I see NO complaints from the Focus or Quantum or Venue Pro people.
    Can you stop trolling and stop spreading rumor already? haha.

    Who bragged about it? Please provide source. You assumed too many things based on no facts just like your any other thread.
    06-21-2012 11:30 PM
  17. richv77's Avatar
    Will OS 7.8 include IE 10?

    -Rich
    06-22-2012 11:16 AM
  18. inteller's Avatar
    it better. Microsoft was bragging on how Windows Phone was modular and IE could be swapped out
    06-23-2012 10:42 AM
  19. kallemia's Avatar
    I'm starting to see a trend among some Lumia owners - I see NO complaints from the Focus or Quantum or Venue Pro people.
    Duh. Those are older phones. Those of us who recently (but not recently enough to return) upgraded to the Lumia 900 have reason to complain.
    06-25-2012 06:29 PM
  20. Bartdog's Avatar
    I'm thinking I will not be jumping on the surface bandwagon, as originally planned.
    06-27-2012 12:36 PM
  21. jwcdis's Avatar
    just saying....
    Nexus S (1 GHz Arm single core) will be upgraded to Android Jellybean.

    Kind of amazing to see how a old piece of hardware is so capable and L900 isn't.
    06-27-2012 12:52 PM
  22. mberdych's Avatar
    Well, ICS is not as flawless on Nexus S, but I am sure 2nd gen devices would run WP8 just fine. This is a corporate decision.
    06-27-2012 01:05 PM
  23. ftap's Avatar
    just saying....
    Nexus S (1 GHz Arm single core) will be upgraded to Android Jellybean.

    Kind of amazing to see how a old piece of hardware is so capable and L900 isn't.
    Exactly. That nexus s processor is the exact same processor as the original Galaxy S released in Spring 2010 and 99% similar to iPhone 4 released in June 2010.

    There is no reason why 2 year old hardware cannot run on Windows 8 mobile except financial reasons.

    Funny hown Samsung won't support Galaxy S (carrier branded) won't support ice cream sandwich while the Nexus S can. All purely financially reasons and fact they won't get rid of their touchwiz to make it work on android 4.0.
    06-27-2012 04:37 PM
  24. itsall4tay's Avatar
    Anyone who really wants WP8 on their Lumia 900 will be able to have it. It may take a little work, but you will be able to have it. Stop worrying. They are just trying to build the platform by selling new phones to the less tech savy. Love the one you're with.
    06-29-2012 02:28 PM
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