11-06-2012 08:20 PM
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  1. Johnny Tremaine's Avatar
    How do you figure?

    I'm just curious what you're basing those statements upon.
    Uh, their quarterly report?
    Nicely summarized by the Financial Times, link below.
    Pull quote: "...while revenues in China fell 80 per cent year on year."

    Nokia losses mount as sales decline - FT.com
    11-05-2012 09:26 PM
  2. Squachy's Avatar
    The whole weight issue is getting utterly ridiculous...

    All these reviews saying its heavy is making it sound like its a 5 lb brick phone the size of a book while everything else weighs as much as a calculator.

    I mean cmon exaggerate much?
    11-05-2012 10:12 PM
  3. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    They are speaking in relative terms.
    The whole weight issue is getting utterly ridiculous...



    All these reviews saying its heavy is making it sound like its a 5 lb brick phone the size of a book while everything else weighs as much as a calculator.



    I mean cmon exaggerate much?
    11-05-2012 10:16 PM
  4. Winterfang's Avatar
    They are just trying to spice things up. Maybe the 920 is so heavy is downright comical, so reviewers want to make jokes about it. We will never know until we hold one, but that many reviewers can't be all wrong.
    11-05-2012 10:19 PM
  5. ImmortalWarrior's Avatar
    They are just trying to spice things up. Maybe the 920 is so heavy is downright comical, so reviewers want to make jokes about it. We will never know until we hold one, but that many reviewers can't be all wrong.

    The 920 is 0.06 lbs heavier than the 900 and the 900 feels fantastic. Give it up already.
    11-05-2012 10:45 PM
  6. Winterfang's Avatar
    The 900 feels far from fantastic. It was made with a complete disregard for comfort and ergonomics. I've never had enjoyed having it in my hands, it wasn't made with a human hand in mind.
    11-05-2012 11:06 PM
  7. Landsharkk's Avatar
    This isn't mine, but I feel like passing it around when the weight of the Lumia 920 comes into question:

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    11-05-2012 11:07 PM
  8. cckgz4's Avatar
    I like that chart


    Sent from something AMAZING using my pinkie
    11-06-2012 02:04 AM
  9. cgk's Avatar
    Isn't the point here not absolute weight but rather relative to the competition? That is what I get the sense is being judged.

    Sent from my Lumia 800 using Board Express
    11-06-2012 03:08 AM
  10. stealthology's Avatar
    By that logic, the first wave of lumia devices would have sold in significantly higher than they actually did.
    If I remember correctly, 600,000 of the 4 million 900's sold in 2Q were from the US.

    Gizmodo's review was brutal
    At least the comments are full of reason and people blasting the author. Lol. How how many people read those? :/

    I think everyone's bearish on Nokia because their point of strength is supposed to be their international/emerging market reach, yet their device sales and market power in China are falling through the floor. They're very close to losing the Chinese market, and if that happens than it's truly lights out for them. They've already pretty much lost the U.S. market for good....
    They were rapidly losing market share in China and some other emerging markets. The switched from Symbian to Asha phones occured just earlier this year, so it's a transition phase (needed to be done). They will definitely re-capture a chunk. Nokia has already partnered with China's #1 provider (forgot the name) to sell the 920. Nokia still has a great reputation in India, South America, Africa, EUROPE, etc.

    The 900 feels far from fantastic. It was made with a complete disregard for comfort and ergonomics. I've never had enjoyed having it in my hands, it wasn't made with a human hand in mind.
    I assume you owned one and sold it? (I didn't even bother, hardware wasn't up to par. I decided to wait for WP8).

    Isn't the point here not absolute weight but rather relative to the competition? That is what I get the sense is being judged.

    Sent from my Lumia 800 using Board Express
    920 is 25% heavier than the iPhone 4/4s. There's a reason for that, too: namely the camera, and wireless charging
    11-06-2012 03:36 AM
  11. Tahiti Bob's Avatar
    Here, have a laugh:

    11-06-2012 04:05 AM
  12. zolgi's Avatar
    920 is 25% heavier than the iPhone 4/4s. There's a reason for that, too: namely the camera, and wireless charging
    Isnt it stupid to compare 3.5" phone with 4.5" screen size?
    11-06-2012 04:38 AM
  13. CoolBeit's Avatar
    I thought the verge review was pretty good.....

    And is a 7.8 that big of a deal when iphone got an 8.8 and n4 got a 8.3? The only complaints were a lack of apps and a slightly disappointing camera in daylight. I can't imagine that would turn anyone off from buying it.

    Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk 2
    11-06-2012 05:21 AM
  14. stealthology's Avatar
    Isnt it stupid to compare 3.5" phone with 4.5" screen size?
    Exactly.
    11-06-2012 05:33 AM
  15. Coreldan's Avatar
    Isnt it stupid to compare 3.5" phone with 4.5" screen size?
    Yes and no. I'm a fan of heavier phones and dislike fe. Samsung for that reason, but Samsung has like 4,8" screen devices that weight that 130g.

    So in that sense screen size is not an indication of weight alone.
    11-06-2012 05:35 AM
  16. zolgi's Avatar
    Yes and no. I'm a fan of heavier phones and dislike fe. Samsung for that reason, but Samsung has like 4,8" screen devices that weight that 130g.

    So in that sense screen size is not an indication of weight alone.
    Samsungs cheap and fragile plastic vs. Nokia...
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    11-06-2012 05:53 AM
  17. Winterfang's Avatar
    Samsung phones are not fragile, I'll bet the GS3 will do better than then 8X and the 920 in drop test. As a hardware maker Samsung is on a league Nokia can only dream to be.
    11-06-2012 08:12 AM
  18. aubreyq's Avatar
    Samsung phones are not fragile.
    My Focus begs to differ ;).
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    11-06-2012 08:45 AM
  19. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    I've crashed two Samsung Focus phones.
    Samsung phones are not fragile, I'll bet the GS3 will do better than then 8X and the 920 in drop test. As a hardware maker Samsung is on a league Nokia can only dream to be.
    11-06-2012 08:54 AM
  20. stealthology's Avatar
    I think Samsung's feel cheap.

    BTW - they just announced the 920 will be $100 here in the US! We can buy them this Friday.
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    11-06-2012 09:01 AM
  21. CoolBeit's Avatar
    I think Samsung's feel cheap.

    BTW - they just announced the 920 will be $100 here in the US! We can buy them this Friday.
    That is way cheap.
    11-06-2012 09:04 AM
  22. blehblehbleh's Avatar
    Samsung phones are not fragile, I'll bet the GS3 will do better than then 8X and the 920 in drop test. As a hardware maker Samsung is on a league Nokia can only dream to be.
    What? No more love for the Nexus 4?
    11-06-2012 05:53 PM
  23. Winterfang's Avatar
    The Nexus 4 is a cheap device, I'm getting it because it offers more bang for your buck than WP8 low range offerings.
    11-06-2012 06:09 PM
  24. Squachy's Avatar
    The Nexus 4 is a cheap device, I'm getting it because it offers more bang for your buck than WP8 low range offerings.
    The thing is priced stupidly low. NOTHING is beating it on price.

    An Optimus G without LTE for the price of an entry level smartphone? How do you compete with that?
    11-06-2012 07:35 PM
  25. blacksea00's Avatar
    Samsung phones are not fragile, I'll bet the GS3 will do better than then 8X and the 920 in drop test. As a hardware maker Samsung is on a league Nokia can only dream to be.
    you are joking no? i dropped my N8 20 times and i sold it as new without a scratch, i dropped 1 time my gs3 and doesn't start anymore. atm i use for temp. a samsung galaxy ace plus and also this dropped from 30cm and plastic its broken.
    from 30 phones in my life 20 only got from Nokia and i didn't have such problems.
    11-06-2012 08:20 PM
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