12-14-2012 01:33 PM
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  1. Byzantium's Avatar
    Isn't Nokia in a close partnership with Microsoft?

    Also, I thought Microsoft was going around the carriers with Windows Phone 8? I'm looking at the news stories about the OTA and people on AT&T say they don't have the update yet and that only international, unbranded handsets are getting it so far.
    12-11-2012 12:15 AM
  2. jdhooghe's Avatar
    No. Microsoft is in line with Nokia and HTC. It's not Microsoft's fault Nokia is taking it's sweet time
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    12-11-2012 12:17 AM
  3. Gaichuke's Avatar
    OTA updates usually occur in phases and get pushed gradually to devices instead of being available for everyone immediately.

    Why first on HTC 8X? Who knows. Maybe simply because there are way more few those devices out there than Lumia 920's so if the update brings some unforeseen problems, they **** less people off with that update.
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    12-11-2012 02:03 AM
  4. Byzantium's Avatar
    OTA updates usually occur in phases and get pushed gradually to devices instead of being available for everyone immediately.

    Why first on HTC 8X? Who knows. Maybe simply because there are way more few those devices out there than Lumia 920's so if the update brings some unforeseen problems, they **** less people off with that update.
    That's actually a reasonable explanation.
    12-11-2012 02:08 AM
  5. Darkgift's Avatar
    That's actually a reasonable explanation.
    I thought it was a naive and smug explanation. The most likely answer is that the HTC 8x has a more severe reboot issue than the 920 (thankfully not mine) so it has priority, and they send the update in waves so servers don't get bogged, or worse, crash with everyone trying to download at the same time.
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    12-11-2012 02:19 AM
  6. Gaichuke's Avatar
    I thought it was a naive and smug explanation. The most likely answer is that the HTC 8x has a more severe reboot issue than the 920 (thankfully not mine) so it has priority, and they send the update in waves so servers don't get bogged, or worse, crash with everyone trying to download at the same time.
    I did not meant to sound smug. I only know that with Symbian, Nokia always pushed OTA updates in phases where some countries got their updates before others and occasionally the updates were pulled back because of unexpected problems in the updates. Server load point was occasionally given as the reason for that, but so was the FW testing.
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    12-11-2012 04:03 AM
  7. decheng1218's Avatar
    maybe because lumia has more features to update. they add it to the new version of software. such as camera or improve battery life ?
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    12-11-2012 05:23 AM
  8. marbla's Avatar
    maybe because lumia has more features to update. they add it to the new version of software. such as camera or improve battery life ?
    I'd figure that as the most likely version. If they did more modifications it may delay the update a bit.
    12-11-2012 05:53 AM
  9. doublebullout's Avatar
    Didn't the article on the home page already answer this? That the update is available first for unlocked 8X phones because there's no carrier testing required?
    12-11-2012 06:18 AM
  10. keizka's Avatar
    Doesn't quite explain why my unlocked 920 hasn't gotten the upgrade ;)
    12-11-2012 06:25 AM
  11. Hibalt's Avatar
    I think we can expect some Nokia specific updates (camera at least) coming also with this one.
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    12-11-2012 06:40 AM
  12. Darkgift's Avatar
    I did not meant to sound smug. I only know that with Symbian, Nokia always pushed OTA updates in phases where some countries got their updates before others and occasionally the updates were pulled back because of unexpected problems in the updates. Server load point was occasionally given as the reason for that, but so was the FW testing.
    Well, that makes more sense. The other way you put it came across as a Nokia fan putting down HTC phones. I apologize.
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    12-11-2012 07:03 AM
  13. lordofthereef's Avatar
    Well, that makes more sense. The other way you put it came across as a Nokia fan putting down HTC phones. I apologize.
    Overly defensive HTC 8X user?
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    12-11-2012 07:06 AM
  14. luk3ja's Avatar
    because Nokia has been stealing all the apps so we get the updates :) and incase you forgot lol, the HTC 8X is Microsofts official Windows Phone 8 phone, it's flagship device ;) haha
    12-11-2012 07:11 AM
  15. dogfish54's Avatar
    because Nokia has been stealing all the apps so we get the updates :) and incase you forgot lol, the HTC 8X is Microsofts official Windows Phone 8 phone, it's flagship device ;) haha
    But seriously - as a 920 user, this is one of the things we enjoy smugly lording over 8X users :) Although the real test will be getting it through the carriers.
    12-11-2012 07:44 AM
  16. cp2_4eva's Avatar
    So, if HTC gets the update first the are a test bed or a guinea pig, but if Nokia got it first then its ULTIMATE UBER SUPPORT FOR NOKIA......right.....I like the way people spin these things.
    12-11-2012 08:04 AM
  17. futurix's Avatar
    Like I said many times before, it's HTC and not Nokia who provides most updates first (for unlocked phones at least).
    12-11-2012 08:08 AM
  18. Nophix's Avatar
    The simple and most likely answer is that HTC was done with their part, Nokia isn't.
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    12-11-2012 08:11 AM
  19. dabdoub81's Avatar
    If microsoft pushed the update to nokia users first, other companies like htc and samsung and their users would say tha microsoft is taking nokia side and gave nokia advantages, due to their agreement ... maybe
    12-11-2012 08:16 AM
  20. dogfish54's Avatar
    On the upside, if they can get this out quickly and it fixes a lot of the issues, this is very important to squash the issues. It still doesn't help with other complaints, but may stop people returning their devices for software items.
    12-11-2012 08:20 AM
  21. Tahiti Bob's Avatar
    Pretty simple: Remember the HTC phones were unveiled as "Signature" devices, which means they're officially the leading products, the ones Microsoft oversee closely. You can expect OS updates to always come to the 8X first from now on. Not a big deal, Nokia users get their fair share of advantages.
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    12-11-2012 08:26 AM
  22. jgbstetson's Avatar
    They're doing it alphabetically, or maybe by weight, or or or ok I'm done. Every company has different roll out strategies. At mine we rollout to a small group of dealers first which serve as our guinea pigs. You don't want to be the guinea pig.
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    12-11-2012 08:29 AM
  23. kenzibit's Avatar
    HTC is a Signature Phone for Windows Phone....IMO.
    12-11-2012 08:38 AM
  24. snaqvi91's Avatar
    What evidence is there that the HTC 8X is the flagship signature leading device thing? It seems to me both the 8X and 920 got equal attention from Microsoft.
    12-11-2012 08:38 AM
  25. Tafsern's Avatar
    I really don't see the point in making a new thread for every little tiny bit of question that comes to mind with these phones.

    Sure we all like to discuss everything, but this just sets a new low.
    snowmutt likes this.
    12-11-2012 08:42 AM
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