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[a5cent]

They could use a dedicated image chip. HTC put one in the 8X, so its obviously something MS allows. That is how the 808 does it, its SoC couldn't handle a 41 MP camera on its own.

Agreed. Vlad already mentioned that.

MS specifies the SoC and screen resolutions. Beyond that, OEM's are free to do whatever they want, although some lower bounds must be respected... For example, using a 2 MP camera is not allowed.

 

[JammyGitz]

Lumia 920 comes out pretty badly

 

[TK2011]

Lumia 920 comes out pretty badly
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Problem with DxOMark is that they test on tripod. That's the way to do it if you are testing sensor and jpeg engine (which they mainly focus on) but it negates the whole point of OIS which comes in mainly for handheld shots. If they had a scoring column for low light handheld shots, which should have a significant weight unless you shoot in daylight all the time, 920 would trounce the competition and the average score will look much different. Low light performance difference is like night and day. We are talking getting a decent shot vs. no shot at all, not some minor difference you can see only if you zoom in which is the case for those daylight measurements. How do you score that kind of delta?

 

[a5cent]

Problem with DxOMark is that they test on tripod.

Yep, a theoretical test that makes absolutely no sense for a smartphone camera. Or when was the last time you mounted your smartphone on a tripod?

OIS is actually counterproductive when used on a tripod. Not sure if L920 detects this and turns it off (unlikely).

 

[TK2011]

Yep, a theoretical test that makes absolutely no sense for a smartphone camera. Or when was the last time you mounted your smartphone on a tripod?

OIS is actually counterproductive when used on a tripod. Not sure if L920 detects this and turns it off (unlikely).

Yeah I doubt it turns it off automatically.

Getting back to DxOMark, the way they score, they measure various things and average them. Problem is they are basically doing daylight testing only. Okay, so let's say they got 66 for the 920 and 72 for iphone/GN2. Now, if we do the same set of tests handheld in lowlight, we probably get something like 66 for the 920 and 10 for iphone/GN2. And let say you use your camera in low light about half the time so you weight them equally. Now you get (66+66)/2 = 66 for the 920 and (72+10)/2 = 41 for iphone/GN2. You get my drift? Of course, iphone/GN2 users won't be using their cameras all that often in low light...because they can't! lol

 

[vlad0]

For anyone interested, here is a great presentation on phase 1 at the Carl Zeiss plant in Germany. They also talk about the Zeiss lenses and their exclusive involvement with Nokia, and why that is.. the technical stuff start at 27 min.