03-19-2013 03:07 PM
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  1. stephen_az's Avatar
    According to this article, the windows 8 phone support ends already in july 2014:
    Windows Phone 8 support to end in 2014 ? The Register

    If they proceed to 8.5, 9.0 etc. Do you think us Lumia 920 users will be left out?

    What are your thoughts about this?
    It is a rather unique perspective to view someone confirming support for a platform as being a harbinger of its death. You do understand that Android users outside of the Nexus line are never guaranteed a single update or even bug fix by Google? If the manufacturer does not step up, you have what you have - ask HTC Android users how that has worked out for them. You can also check the numbers for those still stuck on 2.3. I will take a promise of support over the hope someone will knock out a ROM or a company will be responsible about bugs.
    03-18-2013 07:01 PM
  2. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    03-18-2013 08:29 PM
  3. jhguth's Avatar
    My Zune 30 is still working the same as it did in 2005, so I wouldn't worry about the end of support.

    For Microsoft, it just means that there won't be any development resources committed to creating new features. The way it works now will continue to work for a long time
    How many developers do you have making apps for your Zune 30? EOL may not be a big deal to you, but it is to developers. Especially considering how much investment is needed to develop for WP8.
    03-19-2013 09:12 AM
  4. a5cent's Avatar
    How many developers do you have making apps for your Zune 30? EOL may not be a big deal to you, but it is to developers. Especially considering how much investment is needed to develop for WP8.
    Sales potential is much more important than becoming EOL'ed. If you want sales, at this point, devs are still better off writing apps for WP7 which also run on WP8. That is exactly what most do. Write exclusively for WP8 and you end up halving your sales potential, in an already very small market. Things may be similar when WP8 reaches EOL.
    03-19-2013 09:22 AM
  5. Connie Litrenta's Avatar
    2014 you say? Not a big deal for me anyway so long as I continue to get some updates (and even if I don't). Truth be told, I'm lucky if I haven't moved on to another bigger and better phone by then. I'm afraid to say i'm a bit of a fanatic with technology and don't tend to stay with one phone more than a year anyway. I would however, be more than fine to keep this one so long as they continue to push out updates/improvements.
    03-19-2013 09:38 AM
  6. MFmonster's Avatar
    Support for that concrete version is up to 2014, but all the phones who run WP8 will be upgradeable to the new version e.g. 8.5, 9 or whatever, and those versions will have 18 months of support on their own, so read before you declare something that would mean suicide for Microsoft. How do you read such articles and believe that a company of that size will go ahead with such an impossibly stupid decision ?

    This.. Thank you. I suggest people do more research before passing on inaccurate statements....
    03-19-2013 10:20 AM
  7. prettyconfusd's Avatar
    I've found the circus surrounding this announcement hilarious!

    Right next to the Windows Phone 8.0 support date is a date for WP 7.8. Not 7.0, 7.1, or 7.5, the latest version. So, when WP 8.5 comes out and all current devices are upgraded, that resets the clock another 18 months and considering they moved WP to the NT core partly due to easy of updatability and have already said all WP8 devices will get the next major update (Blue) I don't see what the fuss is about.

    I think WP updates are more likely to go down the iOS route from now on and the move from CE to NT was a one-time sacrifice for the greater good.

    The average phone contract is 24 months, anyone who buys their phones outright shouldn't be expecting support for longer than those 24 months anyway and those who get their phones off contract via pay-as-you-go or similar probably don't care all that much if they aren't updated to the latest version of the OS. I have received no outrage from my parents nor from some of my friends over their WP7s not getting WP8 nor have they been grilling me on when the 7.8 update will arrive. 90% of people just don't care and those of us that do aren't likely to go out and buy a Lumia 920 after June when there'll be a new flagship appearing in November.

    As for the "death" of Windows Phone... Well, I think WP and WindowsRT will probably be integrated more and at that point I think the need for just 'Windows Phone' dimishes and we just have 'Windows' which runs on Phones on upwards with no backwards compatibility for the desktop and 'Windows Pro' which is what we call proper Windows at the moment.

    Microsoft would be silly to keep RT and WP separate by the time Windows 9 rolls around.
    Laura Knotek and Cleavitt76 like this.
    03-19-2013 11:15 AM
  8. wescoerg's Avatar
    As long as you update your phone software, you'll be fine and your phone will still be supported. For instance, Microsoft is ending support for Windows 7 with no service packs installed soon, but Windows 7 with Service Pack 1 will still be supported.
    03-19-2013 12:04 PM
  9. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    A normal contract length unless you are a Canadian is 24 months. If your device was updated say in 18th month making it fresh, new, secure (whatever you are looking for in an update), can you not live 6 months with that?
    03-19-2013 12:10 PM
  10. Simon Tupper's Avatar
    WP and windows are far from dead. But Microsoft needs something to make people talk and drive interest in the platform.
    03-19-2013 01:03 PM
  11. Devamps's Avatar
    Here is the same article in English, rather than Portuguese. http://winsupersite.com/windows-phon...ycle-18-months
    Yes!
    I'm impressed with the amount of functional illiterates who come here commenting on the blog, some people who read but do not understand what you are reading. People have to learn to interpret a text, for God's sake, and at least read the comments of the users, they've had to answer dozens of questions with the same answers. As one of the readers have mentioned before, at least read the comments to see if they understand the context, and are not repeating questions and drawing wrong conclusions!
    Last edited by Devamps; 03-20-2013 at 03:10 AM.
    03-19-2013 02:00 PM
  12. rdubmu's Avatar
    The only issue is when the carrier or manufacture refuses to upgrade your device. My Titan 2 which was released in April of 2012 is still stuck on Mango. This is a huge problem for this platform. Huge problem for developers. Huge problem for growth. It is just a mess, not as messy as android but no where as clean as iOS with updates. This is why Microsoft needs to make a "Surface Phone"
    Sent from my Nokia Lumia 920 using Board Express
    03-19-2013 02:33 PM
  13. hamzie11's Avatar
    Wow, OP has a really weak understanding of the english language
    03-19-2013 02:36 PM
  14. techiez's Avatar
    So I don't understand why people complain they didn't receive the windows phone 8 os update. I'm so curios what windows phone 7.x users are missing so badly about windows phone 8 os?
    Even basic features such as multiselect is missing in win7.x, try to delete some 50 odd pics in win 7.x, this is just one example, there are many more, win 7.8 is more of a feature phone os, it cannot be called a smartfone os. the worst part on MS was that they always knew Win7.8 was not going to be upgradable to wp8 so they kept the users in dark, thats called "cheating/fraud" in my dictionary.
    03-19-2013 02:49 PM
  15. sandmanfvr's Avatar
    Support for that concrete version is up to 2014, but all the phones who run WP8 will be upgradeable to the new version e.g. 8.5, 9 or whatever, and those versions will have 18 months of support on their own, so read before you declare something that would mean suicide for Microsoft. How do you read such articles and believe that a company of that size will go ahead with such an impossibly stupid decision ?
    Yep. I am glad I bought the "flagship" 920 as I know it will keep getting updates.
    03-19-2013 02:56 PM
  16. ChMar's Avatar
    Even basic features such as multiselect is missing in win7.x, try to delete some 50 odd pics in win 7.x, this is just one example, there are many more, win 7.8 is more of a feature phone os, it cannot be called a smartfone os. the worst part on MS was that they always knew Win7.8 was not going to be upgradable to wp8 so they kept the users in dark, thats called "cheating/fraud" in my dictionary.
    People bought the phone in that state. They did not bought it with a written promise (or verbal one) that they will receive new updates. So while I see your point that some thing are missing I don't consider those to be critical. And upgrading the kernel meant recompiling all oem and carrier stuff and a lot of testing. I doubt they would have done this just to upgrade the phone to wp8. This is the case for android also and the reason that newer oses are not provided to the phone. In apple case the platform is just one (no multiple oems, not different cpu arhitecture no way for carriers to put a lot of stuff) so it's easier for them to "update" their phone. But think about siri. Nothing is stoping siri from owrking on iphone4 yet it does not.
    Laura Knotek and a5cent like this.
    03-19-2013 03:07 PM
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