05-02-2013 02:09 AM
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  1. Ertonimus's Avatar
    I'm sick of iOs and am trading my iPhone 4s for a 920 tomorrow. The guy I'm trading with seems reputable but the deal was hatched on craigslist so I want to make sure I know what to look for(if anything) when we swap tomorrow. Are there any common lemon type issues I should look for before finalizing the deal or accidental user misuse type stuff? Any easy way of telling it has water damage or any other possible issues?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated... Can't wait to pick it up tomorrow(hopefully)!
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    04-27-2013 06:53 PM
  2. Dazzi's Avatar
    I'm sick of iOs and am trading my iPhone 4s for a 920 tomorrow. The guy I'm trading with seems reputable but the deal was hatched on craigslist so I want to make sure I know what to look for(if anything) when we swap tomorrow. Are there any common lemon type issues I should look for before finalizing the deal or accidental user misuse type stuff? Any easy way of telling it has water damage or any other possible issues?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated... Can't wait to pick it up tomorrow(hopefully)!
    Hi Ertonimus,

    The only thing I've heard of is light leakage between the screen and the body of the phone. This can be found on the bottom left-hand side, level with the back button.
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    04-27-2013 07:34 PM
  3. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    I just wouldn't trust a phone from Craigslist.

    But there are just a few issues, like the dust under FFC.
    04-27-2013 07:49 PM
  4. Ertonimus's Avatar
    Light leakage as in a little bit of water leakage? Or as in light(illumination) where it shouldnt be?
    04-27-2013 07:55 PM
  5. Ertonimus's Avatar
    I just wouldn't trust a phone from Craigslist.

    But there are just a few issues, like the dust under FFC.
    I also wouldn't normally trust a Craigslist phone but I've talked to the guy a few times and it sounds like he's older and is a bit overwhelmed by how different WP8 is from his old phone.

    Is the dust something you can see just by looking at it?
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    04-27-2013 07:57 PM
  6. CSJr1's Avatar
    You are definately getting the better deal. I would say a Iphone 5 and a L920 is an even swap. (while gritting my teeth:)

    Light leakage as in a little bit of water leakage? Or as in light(illumination) where it shouldnt be?
    Illumination from the capacitive buttons. Means the screen is not sealed properly to the body. Hard to see unless you are in a dark space. Could mean screen was replaced and not sealed properly.


    After making sure all the buttons work, I would test OIS by taking a quick video just to ensure the camera wasnt damaged in a drop.

    Congrats
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    04-27-2013 08:17 PM
  7. blackhorse6's Avatar
    I just wouldn't trust a phone from Craigslist.

    But there are just a few issues, like the dust under FFC.
    Agreed, though I have sold 3 phones on Craigslist with no problems.
    04-27-2013 08:21 PM
  8. Ertonimus's Avatar
    You are definately getting the better deal. I would say a Iphone 5 and a L920 is an even swap. (while gritting my teeth:)


    Illumination from the capacitive buttons. Means the screen is not sealed properly to the body. Hard to see unless you are in a dark space. Could mean screen was replaced and not sealed properly.


    After making sure all the buttons work, I would test OIS by taking a quick video just to ensure the camera wasnt damaged in a drop.

    Congrats
    Thanks, I'll be sure to check that! In regards to the better deal, I'm trading the 64gb that I had AT&T unlock so according to Ebay the other guy is getting the better deal... I could sell my phone for 400-500 and buy a 920 for 200-300 on Ebay. I really don't care though, I'm so bored of Apple and have wanted a 920 for awhile now and this is the easiest way for me to get one and not worry about having my ebay rating go down if someone says there's something wrong with my 1.5 year old phone.
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    04-27-2013 08:45 PM
  9. theeboredone's Avatar
    I've compiled a list of "common" issues that 920 owners have experienced (including me)

    1. Abnormal battery drain: If you don't have any background tasks running, and you're battery is draining at 1-2% per hour on idle, it's a bad phone. My previous phone would drain about 3% per hour with only "weather" running. My replacement is at 68% after 35 hours...and that's with usage.

    2. Loose Unibody Design: If you press down on the top or bottom, that part will press in and create a "pop" sound.

    3. Questionable Vibration: This is hard to judge, because you need another Lumia. I recently got a replacement, and the rattle inside is definitely loose and does not sound no where near as good as my old one. I even did tests by holding them both in my hand, and having an email sent. Definitely different vibration sounds. On the latest update, it's supposed to sound more "tame" and "normal" like any other phone. It won't do anything to performance, but if you're a bit OCD about these things...well...yeah.

    4. Illumination: People have already mentioned that from previous posts. Just check on the bottom end.

    5. Dust on front lens: You can probably see it or test it out.

    6. Loose battery: If you move the phone side to side, you may hear a small "thud" on the bottom end of the phone. Common problem with plenty of phones. Does not do anything to performance though. Hopefully he has a battery app installed so you can see a chart of how it discharges throughout the day.

    That should be it. A lot of stuff to look out for. The battery will probably be the hardest thing to test unfortunately.
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    04-27-2013 09:12 PM
  10. Ertonimus's Avatar
    Thanks for that list! I'll check for all those things. I'm going to bringing it to Tmobile on May 9th(when I can get it unlocked) anyone know how firmware updates will work when its not on its native carrier?
    04-27-2013 09:27 PM
  11. paulxxwall's Avatar
    Sell the iPhone buy new Lumia 920
    04-27-2013 09:37 PM
  12. James8561's Avatar
    scratches on the camera plate on the back. screen scratches obviously. check the corners see if anything's chipped. check the microUSB port see if it's warped. inspect the ear piece closely to see if there's dust. check front facing camera for dust (this can be easily cleared by using compressed air)
    overall the phone is built like a tank so don't worry too much

    firmware updates are pushed automatically over-the-air (OTA). the phone will notify you when there's an update. you can also check yourself by going into settings.
    the lastest firmware should be 1314
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    04-28-2013 01:22 AM
  13. Dazzi's Avatar
    Light leakage as in a little bit of water leakage? Or as in light(illumination) where it shouldnt be?
    illumination where it shouldn't be. It can be seen when the back button is illuminated. It can't hardly be seen in daylight. Therefore, you will have to cover the phone with your hands, while the back button etc are illuminated.
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    04-28-2013 04:20 AM
  14. spizzlee's Avatar
    I dropped my lumia and shattered the screen, went on craigslist and bought a new red one for 300 and have had no problems. I actually turned into a craigslist junkie lol. Got my Surface RT on there too which im using right now. Don't be afraid of the site, just be educated on what you're buying :)
    04-28-2013 03:31 PM
  15. raycpl's Avatar
    Its a great phone. My biggest misgiving is battery drain... ya, I've gone true all the tips and tricks, off this and that, but the mystery drainage continues.
    Its probably down to the phone constant search for signal for apps that runs in the background. On my 920, the culprit is WhatsApp.
    04-28-2013 09:10 PM
  16. Beemoe2's Avatar
    Hi, i too came from Iphone. Been there since iphone2. Two biggest was adding contacts which was pain in the ****. And so far the battery issue has been strange say the least. But since i have Surface RT and Win8 on my laptop it's been very good. Been missing some apps so far, but screen is great bright and more size.
    04-28-2013 09:24 PM
  17. EauRouge's Avatar
    Just check it re: what was suggested above. Dont worry about it being on craglist. I've bought/sold on craigslist and its not as sketchy as it may first seem
    04-28-2013 10:28 PM
  18. miodrage's Avatar
    Check the phone out thoroughly, and u won't have any trouble. Be sure to check everything out. Play with it, around 30 mins, if the battery doesn't go down more than 5% it is supers, up to 8% it is OK, more than 8% loss in 30 mins and I would avoid that transaction.
    This is for a phone that has been reseted, and has nothing on it. Some apps may give u a higher battery consumption.
    04-28-2013 11:49 PM
  19. Huime's Avatar
    yep check it through, I suspect there is large quantity return stock is being recycled into the market.
    04-28-2013 11:53 PM
  20. ashykat's Avatar
    Any time I've bought a phone on craigslist, I go through a little checklist. I check out all the ports and make sure there's no corrosion present and that the phone doesn't look modified in any way. I test the microphone with a test call and make sure the other end can hear me okay. During that call I of course make sure that I can hear them okay, test the volume out and make sure the buttons function as expected. I play some music through the speaker and make sure audio works correctly and there's no abnormal distortion (I've gone to buy phones and the speaker was blown, for instance). I open the calculator app and make sure that all areas of the display are touch sensitive. I open maps and make sure the compass is working. I test the accelerometer (auto rotate), bluetooth (just make sure it can see other devices) and WiFi (I usually meet at a starbucks or similar location and make sure it can connect to the network). If everything checks out then you should be good to go.
    04-29-2013 01:12 AM
  21. slysy's Avatar
    If you have access to a wireless charger, I would test that it charges OK with it. Also try it out with gloves and makes sure it works.
    04-29-2013 07:23 AM
  22. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    I also wouldn't normally trust a Craigslist phone but I've talked to the guy a few times and it sounds like he's older and is a bit overwhelmed by how different WP8 is from his old phone.

    Is the dust something you can see just by looking at it?
    Alright.

    And yes, you can. Put you can always send it to Nokia and they fix it for free. Just you will be phone less for some time.
    04-29-2013 08:10 AM
  23. farukdgn's Avatar
    dont do it. i bought 5 days ago and i really wish i got iphone 4s. a big area of bottom of screen is darker than the top, big disappoitment. i went to the store to see if it was only my problem, but its not. other phones are the same. i gave my phone to the service but as i heard from people who did that, service give your phone back an says its nokia's problem. applications are ugly (i dont even talk about ugly google website and no google apps) and most games are 5x more expensive than iphone ones (although there are a few games). temple run lags in a flagship phone?!.. i wonder if this phone can run other games like real racing 3 and temple run 2 (galaxy s2 runs with the same gpu but we have more resolution, and galaxys2 runs temple run, amazing spiderman, batman etc. smoothly but we cant). i think that the problem is unity beta but there is no way we can check the potential. this doesnt make me hate it but sceeen issue does.. i hope more good apps and games come soon but i wont never buy nokia again i think. i must wait 3 years to get an iphone now :( stay on your iphone and have fun with your games and high quality apps...
    04-29-2013 09:16 AM
  24. spaulagain's Avatar
    dont do it. i bought 5 days ago and i really wish i got iphone 4s. a big area of bottom of screen is darker than the top, big disappoitment. i went to the store to see if it was only my problem, but its not. other phones are the same. i gave my phone to the service but as i heard from people who did that, service give your phone back an says its nokia's problem. applications are ugly and most games are 5x more expensive than iphone ones (although there are a few games). temple run lags in a flagship phone?!.. i wonder if this phone can run other games like real racing 3 and temple run 2 (galaxy s2 runs with the same gpu but we have more resolution, and galaxys2 runs temple run, amazing spiderman, batman etc. smoothly but we cant). i think that the problem is unity beta but there is no way we can check the potential. this doesnt make me hate it but sceeen issue does.. i hope more good apps and games come soon but i wont never buy nokia again i think. i must wait 3 years to get an iphone now :( stay on your iphone and have fun with your games and high quality apps...
    What are talking about? I've had a 920 for 6 months with no problems that you describe. What so you mean by the screen is darker at the bottom? And what provider do you have that doesn't have the 14 day exchange/return policy?

    Sounds to me, you are just spreading FUD.
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    04-29-2013 09:25 AM
  25. farukdgn's Avatar
    What are talking about? I've had a 920 for 6 months with no problems that you describe. What so you mean by the screen is darker at the bottom? And what provider do you have that doesn't have the 14 day exchange/return policy?

    Sounds to me, you are just spreading FUD.
    i dont know what FUD means and it doesnt have 14 day policy. i bought it unlocked. im not living in a country whose providers give phones for free or $99.. i hope the service does something..
    04-29-2013 09:29 AM
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