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  1. Alex Rodriguez's Avatar
    That's not what I was asking; I was asking about what you'd seen that showed AT&T didn't care about the 920 now that the exclusivity period is over. If you haven't actually seen anything tangible and are basing it off a gut feeling, that's totally cool. I was just curious if you had any actual, verifiable information or not.
    No , I don't have any tangible or confirmed info. I just said that when the 920 was in under exclusivity period they seem to care more because that exclusivity was a deal between Nokia and them. It was a contract.Now that it has ended they don't have to go by any exclusive contract or deal that they might have been in the past with Nokia. In other words they do whatever they want. That makes me think is the reason that they are not showing that much interest with the updates like they use to have at the beginning and during the period that exclusive deal was on.
    08-21-2013 03:12 PM
  2. Alex Rodriguez's Avatar
    The text you have elected to put in bold is not an inflammatory response, it is a factual answer to the question raised in the topic.

    Nokia have said the date is before the end of September.
    yeah Nokia said, but we are talking about AT&T here. Everybody knows AT&T has the update already. That's why AT&T customers get annoy. Nokia is not the problem in this case.
    Last edited by Alex Rodriguez; 08-21-2013 at 07:58 PM.
    08-21-2013 03:23 PM
  3. iamtim's Avatar
    yeah Nokia said, but we are talking about AT&T here. Everybody knows AT&T has the update already.
    I still fail to see why that is relevant. If Nokia has set the expectation to be "before the end of September" then people should cling to that, not their own impatience and a knee-jerk interpretation of how AT&T should manage the process..
    08-21-2013 03:34 PM
  4. Alex Rodriguez's Avatar
    I still fail to see why that is relevant. If Nokia has set the expectation to be "before the end of September" then people should cling to that, not their own impatience and a knee-jerk interpretation of how AT&T should manage the process..
    So, keep bending your knees to AT&T then. Like Nokia is doing. Did you see the 1020 keynote where at the end the reporters were given the opportunity to question the presenters. Remember the reporter that asked to Elop about AT&T doing nothing in favor of Windows phone. Then Elop took all the responsability and praised AT&T. So, I think like the reporter that AT&T is doing Sh#* about Windows Phone and the sad part is that there are people that blindly follow and defend them. They critisize isheeps but they act like them.Come to NY to my local AT&T store and you'll see what i'm talking about. The 1020 all the way in the back of the store and no promotion at all.... It seems that everyone here wants to be Ambassador or moderator of the Website given the way the fail to use their critical thinking skills and try to make others think the same way they think.........The title of the thread is Did AT&T forget about us? No,.... Did Nokia forget about us?

    Then people keep saying Nokia said, Nokia said... Againnn we are talking about AT&T here. They have the update. Just release it.
    08-21-2013 05:54 PM
  5. TMavC5's Avatar
    So, keep bending your knees to AT&T then. Like Nokia is doing. Did you see the 1020 keynote where at the end the reporters were given the opportunity to question the presenters. Remember the reporter that asked to Elop about AT&T doing nothing in favor of Windows phone. Then Elop took all the responsability and praised AT&T. So, I think like the reporter that AT&T is doing Sh#* about Windows Phone and the sad part is that there are people that blindly follow and defend them. They critisize isheeps but they act like them.Come to NY to my local AT&T store and you'll see what i'm talking about. The 1020 all the way in the back of the store and no promotion at all.... It seems that everyone here wants to be Ambassador or moderator of the Website given the way the fail to use their critical thinking skills and try to make others think the same way they think.
    I ssure did and it was awesome ...
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    08-21-2013 05:55 PM
  6. Alex Rodriguez's Avatar
    I ssure did and it was awesome ...
    Ha,Ha,Ha that was funny
    08-21-2013 06:03 PM
  7. michail71's Avatar
    So, keep bending your knees to AT&T then. Like Nokia is doing. Did you see the 1020 keynote where at the end the reporters were given the opportunity to question the presenters. Remember the reporter that asked to Elop about AT&T doing nothing in favor of Windows phone. Then Elop took all the responsability and praised AT&T. So, I think like the reporter that AT&T is doing Sh#* about Windows Phone and the sad part is that there are people that blindly follow and defend them. They critisize isheeps but they act like them.Come to NY to my local AT&T store and you'll see what i'm talking about. The 1020 all the way in the back of the store and no promotion at all.... It seems that everyone here wants to be Ambassador or moderator of the Website given the way the fail to use their critical thinking skills and try to make others think the same way they think.........The title of the thread is Did AT&T forget about us? No,.... Did Nokia forget about us?

    Then people keep saying Nokia said, Nokia said... Againnn we are talking about AT&T here. They have the update. Just release it.
    My local AT&T store has the 1020 right next to the Galaxy S4. That has to be the most prime spot in the store.
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    08-21-2013 06:13 PM
  8. iamtim's Avatar
    given the way the fail to use their critical thinking skills and try to make others think the same way they think
    Funny that you should mention critical thinking when you can't bring forth a shred of evidence to back up your claim. I asked you to back your claim; you can't. You just want to rage against AT&T.

    I'm an AT&T subscriber; I can tell you that there are plenty of things to rage about. The timeliness of the GDR2 update is not one of them. It's been reported for either the end of August or September, neither of which have yet come and gone.

    When that happens, when August and September come and go and we have no GDR2 on our AT&T WP8 devices, then I will join you raging at AT&T for it. Until then, take a chill pill and be patient, you've got no grounds to rage about GDR2 right now.
    08-21-2013 08:02 PM
  9. Noahma's Avatar
    "My local AT&T store has the 1020 right next to the Galaxy S4. That has to be the most prime spot in the store. "


    in which the 1020 has Amber and GDR2 pre-installed on a device that is hardware wise identical to the 920 with the exception of the camera, 1 gig more memory and amoled screen. Nothing that would interfere with AT&T's network. My frustration comes in this form. There is NO reason why AT&T should hold up the release of GDR2+amber if they KNOW it works on there network and has been approved ALREADY for sale with the 1020.
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    08-21-2013 09:19 PM
  10. Tom Snyder's Avatar
    I'm also a AT&T subscriber, this slow release of a major update, that everyone is looking forward to receive doesn't not surprise me one bit. They have poor customer support and poor attitude as a company, but they do have individuals that are great, BUT they can only help you within the policies the company has established. Get on their website and try to find out the cost of service, you have to put a phone, what plan you want, and all the add on's in the cart, then you have to go clear to check to get a estimate of your bill and that even varies from location to location. And if your trying to find any details on anything, you're out of luck it's like trying to nail jello to the wall. I really doubt if AT&T customers will get the FM Radio because that's a already a paid add on service on AT&T.

    I wonder how these people that say we're impatient would think, if say Microsoft was releasing a major service pack update and it was up to their ISP when you could receive the SP update that was released for your country or location.

    And my local AT&T Store did not have one positive thing to say about the Nokia 920, when I was thinking about buying. All the good and bad came from websites on the internet, if asked any questions it was I don't know or that that app is really buggy on Windows phone, if wasn't a iphone is wasn't any good.
    Last edited by Tom Snyder; 08-21-2013 at 09:46 PM.
    08-21-2013 09:33 PM
  11. Moiz Mian's Avatar
    Funny that you should mention critical thinking when you can't bring forth a shred of evidence to back up your claim. I asked you to back your claim; you can't. You just want to rage against AT&T.

    I'm an AT&T subscriber; I can tell you that there are plenty of things to rage about. The timeliness of the GDR2 update is not one of them. It's been reported for either the end of August or September, neither of which have yet come and gone.

    When that happens, when August and September come and go and we have no GDR2 on our AT&T WP8 devices, then I will join you raging at AT&T for it. Until then, take a chill pill and be patient, you've got no grounds to rage about GDR2 right now.
    Would you at least be willing to rage about Nokia announcing amber 3 months ago, and just now start rolling it out?
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    08-21-2013 10:06 PM
  12. Moiz Mian's Avatar
    We all just want to rage!! Yeeeaaaahhhhh
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    08-21-2013 10:23 PM
  13. dalydose's Avatar
    Rage against AT&T machine? OK! :)

    Hey, this isn't "premier carrier" behavior when every non-AT&T Lumia in America has the update available. My friends in Australia had it in on their 920 1st. What could big ole Bell be testing that every other GSM carrier didn't? Sometimes the "what is" suspicions and accusations are brought on by the "what isn't" realities. AT&T has nothing but silence and "no news". Have THEY even publicly stated that they are testing?
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    08-21-2013 10:29 PM
  14. PerseusPrime's Avatar
    ATT Engineers are busy testing GDR3 for Nokia's Phablet launch in September. They have a finite amount of resources. Once they are done with GDR3, they will move on to GDR2.
    dalydose and sueha like this.
    08-21-2013 10:41 PM
  15. mary beth hale's Avatar
    data sense is part of gdr2. i recieved it on my ativ s when it was updated.(samsung ativ s-carrier unlocked from rogers-running on straight talk on at&t towers)
    08-21-2013 11:07 PM
  16. prjkthack's Avatar
    I believe Data Sense is a Nokia offering, included with the Amber update, not a part of the GDR2 update. So if you're using an HTC phone, you wouldn't be getting that part of the update. You would have to see if HTC is going to offer something similar.
    Data Sense is a feature of Windows Phone 8 and has been since the beginning. AT&T has opted out of offering Data Sense, and has continued to do so with GDR2. Carriers can either offer Data Sense or block it from their phones, its up to them. AT&T has decided not to offer this feature at this time.

    The 1020 has the call blocking feature though, so I would expect that the other phones should also allow the call blocking feature to be included on their phones.
    08-21-2013 11:18 PM
  17. iamtim's Avatar
    Would you at least be willing to rage about Nokia announcing amber 3 months ago, and just now start rolling it out?
    Maybe. It depends on when the announcement said it would be out. If the announcement said August/September, then no. It's still August. If it said something earlier, then yeah, let's rage.

    Got a link to the original announcement?
    08-21-2013 11:37 PM
  18. smoledman's Avatar
    Data Sense requires carrier development on the backend which AT&T doesn't want to do despite being a very profitable company...
    08-22-2013 12:37 AM
  19. AlexRodriguezNY's Avatar
    Funny that you should mention critical thinking when you can't bring forth a shred of evidence to back up your claim. I asked you to back your claim; you can't. You just want to rage against AT&T.

    I'm an AT&T subscriber; I can tell you that there are plenty of things to rage about. The timeliness of the GDR2 update is not one of them. It's been reported for either the end of August or September, neither of which have yet come and gone.

    When that happens, when August and September come and go and we have no GDR2 on our AT&T WP8 devices, then I will join you raging at AT&T for it. Until then, take a chill pill and be patient, you've got no grounds to rage about GDR2 right now.
    I don't have to chill. If you are following the thread you will see that with my other account I said that I already flashed my phone and now it has all the features including data sense.........Not only fail at critical thinking ,also fail at reading comprehension......... Now who got to wait and chill? It's clear that it is not me the one that need to sit patiently,take the pill and chill.
    08-22-2013 12:51 AM
  20. AlexRodriguezNY's Avatar
    I'm also a AT&T subscriber, this slow release of a major update, that everyone is looking forward to receive doesn't not surprise me one bit. They have poor customer support and poor attitude as a company, but they do have individuals that are great, BUT they can only help you within the policies the company has established. Get on their website and try to find out the cost of service, you have to put a phone, what plan you want, and all the add on's in the cart, then you have to go clear to check to get a estimate of your bill and that even varies from location to location. And if your trying to find any details on anything, you're out of luck it's like trying to nail jello to the wall. I really doubt if AT&T customers will get the FM Radio because that's a already a paid add on service on AT&T.

    I wonder how these people that say we're impatient would think, if say Microsoft was releasing a major service pack update and it was up to their ISP when you could receive the SP update that was released for your country or location.

    And my local AT&T Store did not have one positive thing to say about the Nokia 920, when I was thinking about buying. All the good and bad came from websites on the internet, if asked any questions it was I don't know or that that app is really buggy on Windows phone, if wasn't a iphone is wasn't any good.
    Thank you Tom Snyder!!!! How easy you nailed it and like you most of the people here understand my point and only one or two guys still don't get it.
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    08-22-2013 12:59 AM
  21. mogelijk's Avatar
    I expect the 920 to get the FM radio. My basis for that is that the radio is working on AT&T's L520.
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    08-22-2013 01:25 AM
  22. iamtim's Avatar
    I don't have to chill. If you are following the thread you will see that with my other account I said that I already flashed my phone and now it has all the features including data sense.........Not only fail at critical thinking ,also fail at reading comprehension......... Now who got to wait and chill? It's clear that it is not me the one that need to sit patiently,take the pill and chill.
    I swear, it's like I'm playin' cards with my brother's kids or somethin'.

    This isn't about whether you flashed your phone or not. This is about raging at AT&T because they haven't yet released GDR2 and, according to you, stopped caring about the 920.

    I'm saying there isn't one shred of actual evidence they've stopped caring about the 920; all you've got is your personal rage-gasm against them. I'm also saying that unless anyone can prove otherwise, AT&T has yet to drop the ball on the GDR2 rollout; it was promised in August or September (depending on which reports you read) and it's still August.

    Your personal phone is irrelevant. You seem to have an axe to grind over AT&T, but you do need to chill because lack of caring about, or failure to provide updates for, WP8 devices is not something AT&T can be tagged with. Yet.
    Last edited by iamtim; 08-22-2013 at 11:22 AM.
    08-22-2013 08:43 AM
  23. russshoe's Avatar
    I just spent a hour on the phone with AT&T this guy and his superviser never heard of the Amber update or any future updates not a good sign
    08-22-2013 09:43 AM
  24. JonnieLasVegas's Avatar
    Was told at an at&t store that this update was being skipped for the 920. But I'm holding out hope it isn't true. But that coupled with them saying on Twitter that they have no news or timeline for this update (for the 920), has me worried.
    08-22-2013 09:48 AM
  25. vormison's Avatar
    They want as many people to look at and upgrade to the 1020 as possible. Just like they did with taking their time with the Windows 7.8 update to try to get customers to purchase Windows 8 phones.
    08-22-2013 10:07 AM
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