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  1. B T C's Avatar
    The stock market appears to be a bit disappointed in today's announcement. It might be a buying opportunity, if you're into that sort of thing.
    05-14-2013 09:22 AM
  2. theta_orionis's Avatar
    It's "thinner and lighter" which seems to have been the knock I read the most about the 920 and it looks like Nokia may have addressed those who were on the fence about a new Lumia because of that. While I'm not a fan of the bulbous "camera nipple" it seems this was a concession in the quest for thinness.

    Having said all that, my disappointment is not nearly as important as what the folks with applephones , android and WP7 think. The camera is one of the best out there; I think it'll enjoy some popularity.
    05-14-2013 09:47 AM
  3. metalchick719's Avatar
    I just got a Rogers 920, so I'm good on T-Mobile USA with it, but personally, I think the 925 is absolutely gorgeous. The only thing about it that irks me is that it's only got 16GB of storage. At the same time, I have an iPhone 4 that's 16GB and was good with that for a year and a half. If I didn't already have my 920, I'd definitely be getting the 925 this summer - in white.
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    05-14-2013 09:50 AM
  4. Mystictrust's Avatar
    I just got a Rogers 920, so I'm good on T-Mobile USA with it, but personally, I think the 925 is absolutely gorgeous. The only thing about it that irks me is that it's only got 16GB of storage. At the same time, I have an iPhone 4 that's 16GB and was good with that for a year and a half. If I didn't already have my 920, I'd definitely be getting the 925 this summer - in white.
    Have you seen the attachment thing for wireless charging on the 925? It's a joke! At least with the 810 it was like being built in since it replaced the battery cover entirely. That and the micro USB has been moved to the top. Even if you could deal with 16 GB and no expandable storage, you can't change hardware. If you didn't have a 920 already, I would have recommended you skip the 925 anyway.
    05-14-2013 09:59 AM
  5. abel920's Avatar
    Happy, actually, since it won't make my 920 outdated.
    05-14-2013 09:59 AM
  6. Markyyy's Avatar
    I think the 950's design is a significant stepdown from the gorgeous polycabonate designs of the Lumia 800/900/920. There are too many seams with the 950. I'd not be saying this if they'd gne with a 2-part design of the glass front and a seamless aluminium backing. My ideal Lumia would take the shape of the Lumia 800 but round off it's top and bottom to resemble the 820's rounded edges.
    05-14-2013 10:00 AM
  7. metalchick719's Avatar
    Have you seen the attachment thing for wireless charging on the 925? It's a joke! At least with the 810 it was like being built in since it replaced the battery cover entirely. That and the micro USB has been moved to the top. Even if you could deal with 16 GB and no expandable storage, you can't change hardware. If you didn't have a 920 already, I would have recommended you skip the 925 anyway.
    I saw it. Looks a bit odd, but I suppose it works. Isn't it the same wireless charging option for the 720? Seems like they're moving away from removable covers for charging and just having those that just slip onto the back of the phone.

    I'm actually quite happy I have a 920. I wouldn't want to downgrade from 32GB to 16GB.
    05-14-2013 10:02 AM
  8. Huime's Avatar
    Have you seen the attachment thing for wireless charging on the 925? It's a joke! At least with the 810 it was like being built in since it replaced the battery cover entirely. That and the micro USB has been moved to the top. Even if you could deal with 16 GB and no expandable storage, you can't change hardware. If you didn't have a 920 already, I would have recommended you skip the 925 anyway.
    Why its a joke? So any phone with a snap on case is a joke? Get over it, enjoy your 920 and let others have their right to own all the best of lumia.
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    05-14-2013 10:05 AM
  9. sinime's Avatar
    IDK, I think it looks fine and gives me an alternative to ATT if I decide to go to T-Mobile... Yeah, my ATT 920 would work on T-M, but I believe it won't get 4G on T-Mobile. Could be wrong though?
    05-14-2013 10:08 AM
  10. Josh Cea's Avatar
    This isn't a upgrade for the 920, its a variant of the 920, as is the case of the 928. They weren't meant to replace the 920, they're meant to attract more customers and to expand their market by putting the flagship Nokia phone on multiple carriers. I.e. the 928 is Verizon only, the 925 is T-Mobile only, and the 920 is AT&T only.
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    05-14-2013 10:11 AM
  11. Reflexx's Avatar
    I'm glad that T-Mobile has a decent Lumia now. My cousin wants a Lumia and is on T-Mobile. Now I have a great phone to recommend.
    05-14-2013 10:12 AM
  12. Mystictrust's Avatar
    Why its a joke? So any phone with a snap on case is a joke? Get over it, enjoy your 920 and let others have their right to own all the best of lumia.
    Not saying any phone with a snap on case is a joke (don't make "snap" judgments now, hehe), but the video I saw with Rubino and that snap on yellow thing just made it look like a toy. Extremely unpolished and not clean looking in the slightest. And I don't have a 920.
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    05-14-2013 10:17 AM
  13. Ignotum666's Avatar
    December 2014 is the end of my contract and I can change my lumia 920 free
    05-14-2013 10:19 AM
  14. ricardios's Avatar
    Can't say I'm disappointed knowing this was a variant of the 920. Good to know it will work on T-Mobile LTE.
    05-14-2013 10:36 AM
  15. sj55555's Avatar
    This is precisely what happens when people who think they're smartphone mavens complain about the 920 being too chunky and heavy. Nokia wastes 6 months trying to please these knuckleheads when they could have added features that would have really made a difference. Next time just STFU, because you're not helping Nokia's cause. Their stock is being hammered today as a result.
    inside man 55 likes this.
    05-14-2013 10:52 AM
  16. peterfares's Avatar
    Can't say I'm disappointed knowing this was a variant of the 920. Good to know it will work on T-Mobile LTE.
    The ATT 920 will work on T-Mobile AWS 3G, PCS 3G, and LTE if you just flash the Euro dev ROM. Out of the box it won't support AWS 3G.

    A Rogers 920 will support AWS 3G OOB.
    05-14-2013 10:57 AM
  17. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I have to say my disappointment is not so much in this phone as it is with Nokia and MS. This phone is but a reflection of the issues that will make Windows Phone more and more difficult for people to want to take up. It just adds confusion. I know a lot of people are going to jump on me and say that the carriers are partly to blame but keep in mind this phone is coming to the EU as well. Who is it for exactly?

    There's so much fragmentation happening with just Nokia phones that's it's going to start making it unattractive for someone to take up Windows Phone. Choice is great but this is getting a little silly now.

    There should have been, right from the get go only one flagship Lumia 920 for all carriers across the world and then a couple of lower end phones later on. It's called branding. Everyone knows what an iPhone is and what you get if you buy an iPhone. Unfortunately people are going to get confused about what a Lumia 9xx is because there's way too many varriants on it.

    That's my disappointment and for the moment I'm ok with my Lumia 920 but I'm growing slightly impatient with the way things are on Windows Phone, I think I may have jumped on it too early for me to love it. Like it, yes, love it, no.
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    05-14-2013 11:05 AM
  18. sj55555's Avatar
    There's so much fragmentation happening with just Nokia phones that's it's going to start making it unattractive for someone to take up Windows Phone. Choice is great but this is getting a little silly now.
    I don't think you know what fragmentation means. Any app that runs in the 920 will run on the 925. Devs won't have to do anything special to get an app to run on the 925.

    If you're talking about accessory fragmentation, then, yes, every new model that doesn't have the exact form factor as a prior model introduces fragmentation. But it's not like there are tons of accessories designed only for the Lumia 920 form factor.
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    05-14-2013 11:14 AM
  19. a5cent's Avatar
    There's so much fragmentation happening with just Nokia phones that's it's going to start making it unattractive for someone to take up Windows Phone. Choice is great but this is getting a little silly now.
    Nope, within the WP8 family of devices there is zero fragmentation.

    Fragmentation only becomes an issue if I want to target both WP7 and WP8, which is easily avoided by targeting only WP7, because that will also run on WP8.
    tissotti and LanunReviews like this.
    05-14-2013 11:29 AM
  20. slotti's Avatar
    I mentioned this over in the charging plate thread already, but didn't anybody notice that the charging plate covers up the speaker!!!
    That's a major design flaw and I cannot believe the stupidity that went into it. So if you want wireless charging, you have to sacrifice the speaker? Really? Come on Nokia, cannot be that hard to cut an opening in that charging shell, you did it for flash and camera lens. If they do it no, I'll take credit for it
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    05-14-2013 11:30 AM
  21. tissotti's Avatar
    I mentioned this over in the charging plate thread already, but didn't anybody notice that the charging plate covers up the speaker!!!
    That's a major design flaw and I cannot believe the stupidity that went into it. So if you want wireless charging, you have to sacrifice the speaker? Really? Come on Nokia, cannot be that hard to cut an opening in that charging shell, you did it for flash and camera lens. If they do it no, I'll take credit for it
    I would imagine it doesn't block the sound. The speaker after all is in the back, but a hand back of the phone with a speaker in back and the sounds gets louder as it gets bounced more towards you.
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    05-14-2013 11:37 AM
  22. jfa1's Avatar
    Those who where actually waiting for update for Lumia 920 are certainly disappointed.

    Though I just wanna remind those people that before you see large software update from Microsoft you simply should not wait for core hardware updates. Just like with previous years you will see big Windows Phone update at some point that brings 1080p support and new Qualcomm higher end SoC to the table. Then you will see Nokia, HTC and Samsung all releasing new flagships with same core specifications. Probably around Q4 this year with Nokia once again using their Nokia World event around
    September.

    UK Vodaphone has an exclusive on the black 32GB model TMo US has an exclusive in USA and they will have the 16gb versions. after the exclusivity periods ends who know what will happen?


    So as I was keeping that in mind and all the rumors there was really no surprises to me here. Though I will say I would have wished 32GB version (or is there 32GB version? Some are saying Vodafone is getting 32GB version). I'm 50/50 will I get Lumia 925 or wait till end of this year. I do like the design and use of metal on the phone personally.
    05-14-2013 12:33 PM
  23. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I don't think you know what fragmentation means. Any app that runs in the 920 will run on the 925. Devs won't have to do anything special to get an app to run on the 925.

    If you're talking about accessory fragmentation, then, yes, every new model that doesn't have the exact form factor as a prior model introduces fragmentation. But it's not like there are tons of accessories designed only for the Lumia 920 form factor.
    Nope, within the WP8 family of devices there is zero fragmentation.
    Well, yes I do know what fragmentation means. Different form factors, different OS RAM in the device, confusing numbering. So yes I know what fragmentation is. There's already software fragmentation between 7 and 8 and then on top of that there's between 'flagships' and lower end phones due to the OS RAM. There's already software out that can't run on lower end WP8 handsets. It can look a bit confusing to someone who doesn't know.

    Also not everything that runs on WP7 runs on well 8.

    Just an opinion anyway. Whatever will happen will happen. Either WP will succeed or it will tank.
    05-14-2013 12:58 PM
  24. a5cent's Avatar
    ^ nope, that is not what fragmentation means.

    Fragmentation occurs only when software must explicitly consider differences in hardware or OS configurations. If you have 300 different devices, but software can't tell the difference between them, there is no fragmentation. For example, form factors are irrelevant in that regard.
    05-14-2013 01:04 PM
  25. theefman's Avatar
    The ATT 920 will work on T-Mobile AWS 3G, PCS 3G, and LTE if you just flash the Euro dev ROM. Out of the box it won't support AWS 3G.

    A Rogers 920 will support AWS 3G OOB.
    Have you done this to confirm or have any links where it has been? My unlocked 920 is getting crap reception and if a flash would fix it I'd like to try that. Thanks.

    Edit: nvm, got the info I need.
    Last edited by theefman; 05-14-2013 at 03:57 PM.
    05-14-2013 01:38 PM
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