06-18-2013 03:00 AM
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  1. Musicman247's Avatar
    you have to be kidding me... according to Engadget the RM-877 (aka EOS) just passed through the FCC for AT&T... this means 925 is a just a joke.
    The good news? Pentaband HSPA+, meaning it will work 100% on T-mobile, too. ;) (and be much cheaper next year when I might be in the market for a new phone).
    06-17-2013 01:42 PM
  2. mmar1974's Avatar
    I mean, the 925 was announced 1 month ago? and hasn't gone through the FCC yet, the EOS hasn't even been announced and it went through the FCC already? is it that T-Mobile just doesn't care? why worry about a phone that has hardware that is pretty much a year old? why even worry about exclusivity
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    06-17-2013 02:03 PM
  3. Musicman247's Avatar
    From what I've read the EOS will have basically the same specs as the 920/928/925 except it will have the bigger camera.
    06-17-2013 02:07 PM
  4. tissotti's Avatar
    you have to be kidding me... according to Engadget the RM-877 (aka EOS) just passed through the FCC for AT&T... this means 925 is a just a joke.
    I think you are looking at different markets here. T-Mobile is small beans as has US in general been for Lumia range. Lumia 925 is most of all geared for global market and is already out in some European countries.

    Lumia 925/catwalk was titled as Lumia 920 replacement since the first details of it leaked, not a successor. Think of it this way, as EOS comes out to stores likely somewhere in Q3 you will have 599 euros EOS and much more compact aluminium build Lumia 925 globally that price will likely be in the ~450 range by then. By the end of this year we will have quad core, 1080p phablet made possible by the WP8 GDR3 update, Nokia EOS with its 41MP camera and Lumia 925.

    At this moment its hard to compete against your own phones when you are selling at tops 2 million of flagship phones every quarter. That wont be a problem. Nokia is simply squeezing everything out of WP8 GDR2 it can before GDR3 lands later this year.

    From what I've read the EOS will have basically the same specs as the 920/928/925 except it will have the bigger camera.
    Yes, that will most likely be the case. With GDR3 in Q4 we will see similar line of flagships as with Lumia 920, ATIV S and HTC 8X.
    06-17-2013 03:00 PM
  5. rmichael75's Avatar
    The good news? Pentaband HSPA+, meaning it will work 100% on T-mobile, too. ;) (and be much cheaper next year when I might be in the market for a new phone).
    It will be cheaper with ATT but need to wait till it can be unlocked. and then I can buy one and use it in Tmobile. I bought 920 but not able to use it :(
    06-17-2013 03:16 PM
  6. sravanv's Avatar
    It will be cheaper with ATT but need to wait till it can be unlocked. and then I can buy one and use it in Tmobile. I bought 920 but not able to use it :(
    That's a good point. I'm seeing another 6 month locking period...I think people had issues unlocking their 920s even if they claimed it was for international use only...
    06-17-2013 03:21 PM
  7. mmar1974's Avatar
    I think you are looking at different markets here. T-Mobile is small beans as has US in general been for Lumia range. Lumia 925 is most of all geared for global market and is already out in some European countries.
    TMobile releases the "good" phones for Android, they carry the iPhone5 now, but doesn't carry the WP flagships forgive me if I'm wrong but hasn't Nokia figured out already the the AT&T exclusivity is not giving them anything? if anything the they got a bit of a spark when the 521 and the 928 was released? the Nokia-AT&T "partnership" doesn't seem to be working for Nokia.
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    06-17-2013 03:36 PM
  8. skinsfan10's Avatar
    I just got off the phone with tech support at t-mobile. Actually got someone with a clue for the first time) Anyway he said the 1700 is the hold up right now for the t-mobile variant. He said he just was dealing with it this morning and apparently is an issue with clearing the arm and getting 1700 to work properly. Im not super techy on all that just going by what he was telling me. He said no date of when it will be passed or when it will be released but "possibly 2 to 3 weeks". Im hoping he is on for that. If it is the case im happy if not it will pretty screwed up if the EOS bears out the 925 on release because someone screwed up on a band.
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    06-17-2013 08:13 PM
  9. Musicman247's Avatar
    As much as I'd love that to be true, it's more likely a guy who knows a bit about the tech and would rather say something rather than nothing. I hope not, though. I want one yesterday.
    06-17-2013 08:50 PM
  10. skinsfan10's Avatar
    I dont know he seemed like a pretty straight shooter. We chatted for a good 45 mins about it. Obviously I dont know him personally but they guy really was right on with his info as he was telling me to look at sites to match up the rm and band numbers.
    06-17-2013 09:12 PM
  11. Musicman247's Avatar
    Right, but almost everybody here knows that the RM-910 is the T-mobile version of the device and it has the 1700 band HSPA+ radio and the US LTE bands. You could have called me and I could have told you the same thing as a guess. "It might be the addition of the 1700 band" Only thing is they've already added that band on the Rogers 920 and the 928, so it shouldn't be too difficult to add it on.

    Who knows, though. Like I said, I hope he knew something nobody else knows.
    06-17-2013 09:41 PM
  12. sravanv's Avatar
    TMobile releases the "good" phones for Android, they carry the iPhone5 now, but doesn't carry the WP flagships forgive me if I'm wrong but hasn't Nokia figured out already the the AT&T exclusivity is not giving them anything? if anything the they got a bit of a spark when the 521 and the 928 was released? the Nokia-AT&T "partnership" doesn't seem to be working for Nokia.
    My guess is Nokia got a significant chunk of cash from AT&T for an X year exclusivity contract. Perhaps 3-4 years, and Nokia has to provide their best handsets to AT&T first. In exchange, AT&T throws them a lifeline in terms of providing them R&D cash to get them out of their funk.

    Not a bad move even if it temporarily hurts the consumer. AT&T did the same thing with the iphone, Verizon did the same thing with certain sets of Motorola handsets, and Sprint did it with Palm (nice try Sprint lol).
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    06-17-2013 09:50 PM
  13. skinsfan10's Avatar
    He said the rm was 893. Not sure if that may be the problem
    06-17-2013 10:01 PM
  14. skinsfan10's Avatar
    I saw where rm-893 is also associated with t-mobile so I just hope they fix it fast and not find anything else. Its really getting quite old now with this hold up
    06-17-2013 10:02 PM
  15. skinsfan10's Avatar
    http://www.phonessell.com/nokia-lumi...rm-893-rm-910/. That is the site it had the stuff listed. Also on Nokia poweruser it says rm-893 is the t-mobile variant for the 925.
    06-17-2013 10:07 PM
  16. Musicman247's Avatar
    Hmm. According to those specs, though, the rm-893 doesn't have the 1700 band for HSPA+. The RM-910 does. Could the model that recently passed through the FCC be the t-mobile variant?
    06-17-2013 10:23 PM
  17. jgbstetson's Avatar
    Right, but almost everybody here knows that the RM-910 is the T-mobile version of the device and it has the 1700 band HSPA+ radio and the US LTE bands. You could have called me and I could have told you the same thing as a guess. "It might be the addition of the 1700 band" Only thing is they've already added that band on the Rogers 920 and the 928, so it shouldn't be too difficult to add it on.

    Who knows, though. Like I said, I hope he knew something nobody else knows.
    I don't know that. It clearly states on the Nokia dev pages that RM-893 is the US variant. It also supports 1700 and tmo LTE.
    06-17-2013 11:24 PM
  18. skinsfan10's Avatar
    Ya the more I dig the more I wanna believe the guy I spoke to. Seems dead on with the numbers. So if this really is the case then hopefully it passes and its done fast. He also stated that the UK version unlocked or not wouldn't work without having the 1700 and since it clearly doesn't overseas we are double screwed here waiting.
    06-17-2013 11:31 PM
  19. skinsfan10's Avatar
    He said however we could get 2g and possibly very slow 3g at best which just is assed out for us
    06-17-2013 11:32 PM
  20. Musicman247's Avatar
    Ok, so I did some digging and found out that the AT&T and Rogers 920s were the same model number (RM-820) even though the Rogers version had a pentaband radio in it

    That said, I was wrong. The 893 will be the TMO variant, but will have the 1700 HSDPA+ band added.

    Looks more and more like this tech support guy might be right. I'm sorry for being negative.
    06-17-2013 11:40 PM
  21. skinsfan10's Avatar
    No worries. Can't blame someone for being skeptical with all the miss info flying out there. I wonder if any moderators will see this and maybe put an article up about it. At least get the info out for people to know what the hold up is you know.
    06-18-2013 01:31 AM
  22. Harry Wild's Avatar
    Wow! The delay is due to T-Mobile or carrier and anyone that think it is Nokia; needs to straight up!
    06-18-2013 02:41 AM
  23. nano321's Avatar
    No way. RM-910 is China Unicom version. RM-893 for T-Mobile and even can be compatible with AT&T. RM-892 is global variant.

    Lumia 925 getting tested on AT&T. Specs page also shows compatibility with AT&T’s LTE band 17.
    Device Details -- Nokia Lumia 925
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    06-18-2013 03:00 AM
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