1. P1ng0fDeath's Avatar
    Hi guys,

    so, my current device is the L520, which I really like, but I'm really looking forward to get a better one and have a more complete experience with WP. The L520 is very nice, but is also a budget phone, so it lacks several features that are interesting to me, like Glance, front camera, led flash, more RAM and so on. Then there's the L925. I held one once and it looks great, feels good to hold, has a nice size and all the features I'm looking for. But I'm now down to some questions before I make the jump, so I was wondering if you people could help me:

    First, is it still worth getting? After all it's a device that was released over an year ago (June 2013 I guess); not old but not new either
    2- Does the AMOLED screen really leave burn marks over time? If so, does it take long? Is there ways to effectively fix it?
    3- Battery life under average use, how good is it?

    Please consider that where I live only phones like the L520 and L630 are cheap. The L925 is found here for at least R$ 1500,00 - that's over US$ 600,00, I belive. So I was thinking about getting one on the Black Friday (if it turns out to be advantageous) and keep it for some time. L930 is not a option at all, as its price is obscene here, and the L920 seems already out of production.

    So, users of the L925 or not, please tell me what you think! Thanks in advance
    obs: sry for my broken english, it's not my first language
    Last edited by P1ng0fDeath; 10-02-2014 at 01:56 PM.
    09-27-2014 12:12 PM
  2. xandros9's Avatar
    1. My 920 is still worth it IMO, same with the 925. I would not hesitate recommending it under two conditions: the price is right (big one), the user knows its not top-of-the-line anymore (and has looked at its sister devices, namely the 920)

    2.the display is indeed able to suffer from screen burn in. Whether its a problem worth constantly thinking about, i don't know and cant really comment. I have a 920 which does not have an OLED.

    3. Its going to be worse than your 520 I believe. My 920 is probably beaten by my sister's 521, but i don't know if its due to my heavier usage or the nature of the phones.

    Also worth asking, have you looked at the 820?
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    09-27-2014 04:04 PM
  3. P1ng0fDeath's Avatar
    1. My 920 is still worth it IMO, same with the 925. I would not hesitate recommending it under two conditions: the price is right (big one), the user knows its not top-of-the-line anymore (and has looked at its sister devices, namely the 920)

    2.the display is indeed able to suffer from screen burn in. Whether its a problem worth constantly thinking about, i don't know and cant really comment. I have a 920 which does not have an OLED.

    3. Its going to be worse than your 520 I believe. My 920 is probably beaten by my sister's 521, but i don't know if its due to my heavier usage or the nature of the phones.

    Also worth asking, have you looked at the 820?
    yes, I did looked at both the 820 and 920. Couldn't find them anymore here, it's a shame because both phones are great and I was really interested in them... I also have no interest in waiting for the 730 or 830, mainly because they will be ridiculously expensive, like every phone here lol
    but thank you for your reply, it was helpful!
    09-27-2014 04:23 PM
  4. KhawarNadeem's Avatar
    First, is it still worth getting? After all it's a device that was released over an year ago (June 2013 I guess); not old but not new either
    2- Does the AMOLED screen really leave burn marks over time? If so, does it take long? Is there ways to effectively fix it?
    3- Battery life under average use, how good is it?
    1. I agree with xandros9 most of the time, but as for the 925 being worth it at this point in time, I'm not so sure. If you don't care about having the latest and greatest (I am talking about software, not hardware), it's not a good buy anymore. Even the Cyan firmware update was nearly a pure 8.1 update for Lumia 925, with no benefits of Cyan that were available to the 930, 1520, 630, etc. I'm sure performance won't suffer for a long time, the hardware is 'good enough'. But the software will be outdated soon. Microsoft has an 18 month update policy, and the 925 will be out of it soon. I would much rather recommend the upcoming 730 or 830.

    2. Burn-in is a problem with all AMOLED displays, yes. But these new screens are very resilient to it. I used to have some back in the day on my Galaxy S2. But on Windows Phone there are no static elements that would cause permanent damage to the display.

    3. Battery life is 'good enough', nothing groundbreaking. The newer Snapdragon 400 processor phones would definitely have better battery life. My 925 has lower battery than my sister's 720, and she is a heavier user than I am. Gets me through one day though.

    Good luck! :)
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    09-28-2014 09:03 AM
  5. Munter2's Avatar
    The trouble with the 925 is the current cost. Back in May you could pick one up for 200 bucks from Home Shopping Network, but now the few remaining are priced near or above $300 which is not worth it for this phone. Add in the T-Mobile version still hasn't been updated to 8.1 and you have a phone to stay away from.
    09-28-2014 05:26 PM
  6. Asskickulater's Avatar
    Yea, when it comes to software updates, the 925 is pretty much out of the game, and while its hardware is also dated, it performs surprisingly well!

    I've heard a lot about this screen burn in issue, it confuses me a bit, I've had a few OLED devices, my first being the Zune HD and man did I abuse that things screen, I set it to never turn off because I never ran out of battery and loved the fancy visualizer, and having it for a good couple years, and now a cousin has it, it still shows no signs of screen burn in, so.. in my experience, as long as you don't keep the keyboard open all the time, or let it sit on a picture for hours, I don't think burn in is really a huge issue.

    The battery is fine, it really depends on how you use it though, if you don't use a lot of apps, it will last you a while, using apps or pictures/videos that are predominately brighter (ie don't use the color black a lot) will kill the battery faster since its an OLED screen.

    I would like to note that the 925's screen is beautiful, I'm not sure if that's a big thing for you, but its definately worth noting, I've compared it to a lot of newer phones, and there screens just didn't compare, even though its only a 720p screen, its fluid motion, deep blacks, and popping colors really make it look phenominal!

    and lets not forget its great camera!

    sample
    (taken on my own L925)


    hope you find this helpful, and feel free to ask anything you want about it!
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    09-28-2014 09:12 PM
  7. Richard Feinburg's Avatar
    No, its not worth it. The only thing good about the 925 is the screen and camera over the Lumia 635. Nokia will not out much work in the firmware like the 920 because it was never a hit. I got it when HSN was selling it for $200. If you can get it for the same as 635 then go for it but you will not get much with support.
    09-29-2014 01:16 AM
  8. P1ng0fDeath's Avatar
    1. I agree with xandros9 most of the time, but as for the 925 being worth it at this point in time, I'm not so sure. If you don't care about having the latest and greatest (I am talking about software, not hardware), it's not a good buy anymore. Even the Cyan firmware update was nearly a pure 8.1 update for Lumia 925, with no benefits of Cyan that were available to the 930, 1520, 630, etc. I'm sure performance won't suffer for a long time, the hardware is 'good enough'. But the software will be outdated soon. Microsoft has an 18 month update policy, and the 925 will be out of it soon. I would much rather recommend the upcoming 730 or 830.
    well that's not great but still, by the time I'll be able to get a 830, it's probably going to be getting in the same place as the 925 today... these kind of sh*t is expensive in my country but thank you, I'll keep that in mind
    09-29-2014 08:52 AM
  9. P1ng0fDeath's Avatar
    @Asskickulater
    wow that seems a capable camera... and apparently there's a consensus here about the software... thank you for your reply, it was enlightening
    09-29-2014 09:03 AM
  10. Asskickulater's Avatar
    You're Welcome, hope it helps you make a decision, and feel free to ask more questions, always good to ask before ya buy!
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    09-30-2014 06:20 AM
  11. P1ng0fDeath's Avatar
    @Asskickulater
    thank you
    in the end, guess I'll just get the 925 anyway if I can find a decent price. As I said, 930's cost is obscene here (at least R$ 1600, what would be something like over US$ 640... yep), way above what I can afford. Both 820 and 920 can't be found anymore. The 830 will be expensive once it lands here too, and I have no interest on the 730. I don't see many options, so I decided to ask about it... I see software may be a concern in a near future, but still, you guys made this phone sound too good to ignore
    Last edited by P1ng0fDeath; 10-02-2014 at 01:57 PM.
    09-30-2014 09:13 PM
  12. Parazels's Avatar
    Have the same problem. In my country Nokia 925 now costs 150 vs coming soon 220 Nokia 730. I prefer using two columns of tiles as soon as the Nokia 730 has three columns only, no way to change. It sounds ridiculous but it matters to me.

    However in all the other features (except the price) Nokia 730 looks better. It seems I should spend more money...

    Posted via the Windows Phone Central App for Android
    10-08-2014 04:52 PM
  13. Parazels's Avatar
    ... I have no interest on the 730. I see software may be a concern in a near future
    You are exactly right. In the near future all the guys will discuss the new software, new functions, performance and so on. All the guys except YOU. You will be regret your device is no longer supported.

    And I don't understand why you have no interest on the 730.

    Posted via the Windows Phone Central App for Android
    10-08-2014 04:59 PM
  14. P1ng0fDeath's Avatar
    well I think it looks gorgeous, really, one of the most beatiful Lumias so far. Better looking than the 830 actually, and it does have great features. But the lack of Glance (especially) and dedicated camera button are deal breakers for me. But it's indeed a good option for those who don't care about these. Me on the other hand, always wanted to have the chance to try Glance, I even regret not buying that 620 instead of this 520

    Currently I'm just waiting the 830 arrival to check its price, and hopefully buy it in a few months once it gets cheaper. What about you?
    10-08-2014 08:58 PM
  15. allhill's Avatar
    hei, i'm new here... just get my lumia 925 a couple days ago, and i think is great, the screen, the camera is great compare with my HTC One M7. Before i buy 925, i already try 530 which i only use 7 days then sell it. The different screen resolution is matter for me.
    The problem is limited storage and I just doubt that 925 with dual core processor will get OS update after Windows 8.1 Cyan.
    10-08-2014 09:32 PM
  16. fdalbor's Avatar
    My wife has a 925 (I have a 820). Her's is great, no problems at all. She gets about a day and 13 hours on a charge. Of course we upgraded it with cyan/8.1 OTA. I bought it to replace my 820 but the 820 has a SD card slot, removeable battery, wireless charging so I decided to keep the 820. If you can get it for a great price grab it. There is a very good chance it will be upgradeable to Win 10. All our Lumia's are running cyan/8.1and none have had any problems, even the 520.
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    10-08-2014 10:18 PM
  17. P1ng0fDeath's Avatar
    I haven't discharged the 925 yet. Like you said, only if I it's for great price. I'll wait to see the 830 price first though

    @allhill
    thanks for sharing
    well, about the updates I'm not so sure. No ones knows yet if the x20 series will be upgradeable to Win10; my guess is they will. But we'll have to just wait and see
    Last edited by Guytronic; 10-09-2014 at 09:38 AM.
    10-09-2014 09:07 AM
  18. P1ng0fDeath's Avatar
    soooo, just wanted to tell you guys that i decided to pick the 925. I looked for both 730 and 830 on the Black Friday, but just wasted my time. Almost no good prices at all, that's why we call it "Black Fraud" here in Brazil when i finally found a 925 for a nice price, surprise surprise... sold out when i added it to the cart. I understand that the 925 is getting kind of old and a newer Lumia would be better for several reasons, but i had no option

    so i found a second hand black 925 on a popular website. It was relatively cheap and looks very preserved, 7 months of use. The seller says he always kept it with a case and screen protector. Except for 3 very very small dots on the aluminium frame, it looks brand new.

    and that's it guys, just wanted to share with you my decision. Thanks for anyone who helped, i'll post my impressions of this gorgeous phone as soon as i can.
    Last edited by P1ng0fDeath; 11-30-2014 at 09:50 PM.
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    11-28-2014 06:24 AM
  19. Rotary635's Avatar
    I'm bidding on a new ATT L925 on eBay.

    Currently I might win it for $80 USD

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    11-30-2014 07:31 PM
  20. Munter2's Avatar
    I'm bidding on a new ATT L925 on eBay.

    Currently I might win it for $80 USD

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    That's great as long as you can use AT&T or one of their MVNOs, but if the phone is locked and you don't have access to the AT&T network, you're buying a brick.
    11-30-2014 11:12 PM
  21. P1ng0fDeath's Avatar
    TL;DR: I loved the phone and yes, it's still worth it

    Loving the 925 so far. First thing that popped my eyes was the screen. My God, that's one beautiful display. Blacks on my former 520 look greyish when compared to it. Colors are impressive, sometimes they may look a bit oversaturated, but some adjustment might improve this. This combination of Amoled + Clearblack is amazing. View angles are just perfect and i can see anything outdoors easily. There is a small burn-in on the bottom, which I'm 100% sure it was caused by the 3 buttons used in conversation window of WhatsApp, but that's fine; they're barely noticeable. I can live with that. If you're worried about getting one of those, don't. Burn-ins only occur if you leave the display on on a static screen for very long, especially with high brightness. I'm deeply impressed with screen quality.

    Loved the convenience of Glance screen! Now that's one feature that I've been looking forward to try. It's great when I'm busy or gaming; no need to double tap to wake or press power button to check time, all it takes is a quick look. It's just so awesome that i wonder why MS won't promote it more. I've been using it for only 2 days now and already got used to it. I'm afraid that any phone without it from now on will be a deal breaker for me

    Build quality is very satisfying. The aluminium frame gives it a true premium look. Mine has a few very small white dots, but then again, I'm ok with that. It's very thin, light and pleasant to hold or look at. Still the best-looking Lumia so far (in my opinion, of course).

    I'm pleased with its performance. The device is running with the lastest version of Preview for Developers + Cyan. Everything flows smoothly. Apps opening is fast and "resuming" screens are rare, and when i do see one, they last short. No lags or stutter at all - differently of my old 520, which i feel was butchered by WP8.1 updates

    I have taken pictures and camera so far is damn good. This combination of PureView + Carl Zeiss lens do a great job. I really enjoyed the double flash. It also ends up making a ridiculously powerful flashlight . So far pictures taken at both day and night time look great. Front facing camera is only 1.2 mp, but it does the job properly. It won't have many use though, as i'm not really the selfie type. I might post some pictures later.

    storage hasn't been a issue so far. Approximately 14 gb were available after a reset, which may or may not be little - it depends a lot on the user. If you store A LOT of phots, A LOT of songs and use A LOT of apps, i believe you'll find yourself struggling with storage. With about 100 pictures, 100 songs and over 20 apps, i still have over 9 gb free, enough to store a lot more, and then it may be time to transfer pictures to Onedrive or my computer. So for my kind of user, 16 gb is not small, but as i said, that'll depend.

    Sound quality is very good. I can listen to music nice and clear with or without earbuds. Talking about earbuds, i was surprised to find out that they came with 4 pairs of eartips - each pair with a different size, so you can choose the ones that fit better. Never seen that before, so you probably understand my amazement.

    Battery life so far is acceptable. Nothing impressive, but it's not awful either, especially considering the brilliant screen and older SoC (Snapdragon S4). It lasts a whole day with moderate use - low brightness, Glance screen on, a lot of WhatsApp and some browsing and a few apps on background. The only downside is that apparently it takes longer to charge when compared to my former 520. But hey, it's a 2000 mAh battery against a small 1430 one, so i'll have to just get used to it.

    And that's it folks. I can answer my own question: Yes, it's still worth it. Obviously, there are better alternatives now, with more power-efficient SoC, removable cover and battery, SD card expansion and better support for future updates - like the lumia 830. But if you're short on cash and believes that this phone will do it, go ahead and get it. It's 17 months old now, but still kicks ***, and damn it looks so hot!

    So yeah, this was my very short and simple "review" (17 months later, wtf? xD ). Sorry for the long post and spell errors (english isn't my first language). Coming from a 520 i was excited about having a once-flagship-phone-that-still-rocks, i think you guys understand why i wanted to share my experience. Thank you for reading!
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    12-01-2014 12:29 PM
  22. Rotary635's Avatar
    Your review assures me of my purchase of a new L925.

    I used a L635 for one week and fell in love with windows 8.1 (I am naturally an android user.)

    I paid $180 USD for a new L925. I was briefly skimming the defects thread and got kinda worried but I think it'll be okay.

    It was a hard decision between the L925 and a Moto x (2013)
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    12-02-2014 12:13 AM
  23. P1ng0fDeath's Avatar
    925 was indeed a good choice, don't worry :) it still can give a wonderful Windows Phone experience.
    I was kind of worried too about some things after reading a few threads where people complained especially about battery drain. But battery so far is good, no drain or crazy heating. Real solid device, i hope you enjoy yours
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    12-02-2014 08:10 AM

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